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Waaaaaaay better privacy, faster than chrome, don’t need to worry about them killing mandatory add ons so they can push ads, also the add ons just work better but maybe that’s confirmation bias.
I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting
It is not really faster than Chrome, but hey, at least I don’t have to manually opt out of monetizing my browsing history and my adblocker still works.
not really faster than Chrome
Its also not really slower. If you are blocking plugins, it can be faster.
Its fast enough I think is the broader point.
It’s a weird pissing contest that still makes people angry for no reason, is what it is.
It’s not the 90s, you’re not trying to parse a bunch of tables on a creaking chunk of barely cooked sand. You’re basically running standalone software through your browser anyway.
Honestly, the one performance thing that bothers me on any modern browser is that some extension in my stack somewhere is memory leaking and makes me restart Firefox to restore performance every few hours. Can’t tell which one, but I need all of them, so hey, frequent reboots it is.
Once it’s slower, hit F12 -> memory -> snapshot
Should be pretty easy to check out which extension has shitloads of storage. Then you can decide how to go from there - maybe contact the author?
Memory leak may have been a misdiagnosis. The issue is clearly with Youtube, which is what most extensions I use are about, there is nothing obvious in the memory snapshot (not that it’d be easy to see, because video is a resource hog anyway) and the profiler seems to label the stutter with the very useful label of “jank”, so…
Someone more familiar with web dev than I am may be able to take the profiler logs and debug this, but a) that’s not me, and b) not my job.
Jank means that the renderer was delayed due to a resource conflict - usually because there’s something on the main thread that’s taking too long. Basically your issue is probably a CPU (or GPU) one, not a RAM one - It’s hard to help you out without knowing more about your environment, so all I can really give you is vague advice: if you’re using an adblocker other than uBlock Origin, switch to uBlock Origin, it has much better performance. Check the plugins and extensions and make sure there isn’t something you don’t recognise, if your computer was compromised at some point, cryptominer plugins can really tank performance.
Figured that much. I’m not a web developer, but I can read a profiler, and the CPU usage spikes before those gaps are a pretty good sign that this isn’t a memory leak. I use uBlock Origin, by the way, but there’s likely some weird interaction between it, other Youtube extensions and Youtube’s own attempts to nuke adblockers from orbit. And no, it’s not a cryptominer as far as I can tell. This looks like either a bug or an unintended behavior of the very popular, very sanctioned plugins running on Firefox (or Firefox itself).
Which is why, as I said, I have settled for periodic reboots. Convenience wins over principle often, but I happen to be stubborn.
Gotta say, though, I appreciate the attempts at troubleshooting, but the OSS and privacy communities in general have a tendency to respond to comments on poor performance, compatibility or UX with tech support, and I think it’s kinda missing the point.
I’m actually having similar issues. Seemingly at random, my PC will freeze up due to lack of memory and killing Firefox fixes it. Im also sure it must be an extension causing it.
Here are my extensions, let me know which of these you are using and maybe we can narrow it down from that:
- Neat URL
- uBlock Origin
- Return YouTube Dislikes
- Firefox Multi-Account Containers
- SponsorBlock
- Vimium
- Decentraleyes
- Enhancer for YouTube
- Privacy Possum
- I don’t care about cookies
- First Party Isolation
- Startpage Privacy Protection
FWIW, the only ones we share on that list are uBlock, Dislikes and Enhancer.
Again, best guess is Youtube is desperately trying to poop out some ads and getting reinvented within an inch of its life by those extensions (not to mention dragged kicking and screaming into having pop-up playback windows) and something breaks in there somewhere. I’m not holding my breath for a fix anytime soon.
Firefox actually has surpassed Chrome recently in benchmarks
It is not really faster than Chrome
It is if I close my eyes and stick my fingers in my ears.
Sadly not everywhere. On mobile it lacks behind. Even more on video content and low power cpus.
Chromium is slightly better in a way where I could clic on the video buttons without lag : On my android TV, (sideloaded) Firefox had issues with video buttons. So I tried using kiwi browser (for the extension support), and it worked well for buttons. The video wasn’t a lot smoother, but it just seemed maybe just slightly better.
Sorry to hijack, but can anyone help me with my issue?
I’m using librewolf and since about a week or two I noticed a speed issue. Overall my internet is fast, way faster then I need in fact, but websites load at a unreasonably slow speed.
When opening anything librewolf just sits there loading for a few second (probably up to ~10) then page opens fine. Video playback works great too. What could be the issue?
Mobile adblock
Because it’s the only browser not based on Google’s Chromium rendering engine (Webview, WebKit? whatever). Using any other browser supports Google’s monopoly over how we browse the internet and what we are allowed to see. No, fuck Google.
Edit: spelling
Because it’s not Chrome
Because it’s open source
Because I can get it on all my devices
Because I like the work Mozilla does
Because it’s private and secure by default
Came here to say all of this, so thank you for saving me keystrokes :)
All of these and then some.
A small part is that I’m supporting the underdog.
It’s not created by a company that sells ads.
Cause fuck Google
Because it’s never let me down.
I started using it pretty much from the beginning and have never had a reason to stop. When Chrome came along, I thought the whole idea of using a browser made by Google was obviously awful, so I just kept using Firefox. And I’m still using it.
Because I’m not comfortable using a tool of a mega corporation trying to shape the internet to show more ads to ppl
Because it’s one of the only remaining browsers (the other one being Safari) that doesn’t run on Chromium. We must protect FireFox and Safari with our lives because if they die out then Google has a monopoly on the browser space. Not something anyone wants… I mean look at their Manifest V3, and web DRM controversies. They are trying to ruin the web. Don’t let them people!
Plus, I just like the ability to customize the toolbar, and FireFox Sync is just brilliant for syncing between mobile and desktop!
firefox sync works way way better and more logically than any of the competitors
I wish it had an offline option without sign-ups in the style of KDE Connect.
Hmm, I bet most of the functionality could be replicated using a browser extension. Pretty much the only thing I think you wouldn’t be able to access would be saved passwords and credit cards. Networking might be an issue as well if you were trying to set up an ad-hoc system like KDE connect uses.
Can’t have Google kill Firefox, if Firefox does it first. Every few years they (IMO) fuck something up that makes me want to move away, but there’s no real alternative :/
Like what?
Ublock Origin
Google has too much power over the web, also I just like Firefox.
It’s FOSS, respects my privacy, doesn’t try to kill my adblock and it’s the only option that doesn’t support a big evil monopoly
Chrome runs like garbage compared to Firefox, and this has always been the case for me. I didn’t make the switch in 2008. I also had a bad feeling that Chrome would become the new IE with every other browser ditching their own rendering engine and basing on Chromium.
People back then said it was OK because Chromium is ostensibly open-source. Look where that got us. Surprise, it’s still controlled by Google!
I just don’t want to support the monopoly.
Also Firefox has been so tempting since the new engine written in Rust came out. It has a wide range of supporting add-ons.
Is that quantum or is there another rewrite I don’t know about?
I’m talking about quantum. I switched to Firefox since quantum came out.
Works well
Extendable
Open source
Not chrome based
I think Firefox is a pretty cool guy. Eh has great add-ons and customization and doesn’t afraid of anything
