Haven’t we learned our lesson about unprovoked wars after watching East Europe for the past year and a half??
@emizeko - not sure if you’re a Russian troll or a poor American doing the real fascists’ work for them–but I’m sorry for you my friend and hope the best for you. If you missed it in my other comments, I’m currently serving in the US military and am very confident that Western media at large is on the money, and that a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted. Best wishes.
There is fairly public pro-Russian sentiment among Republicans and their supporters. Anything to be contrarian to what the libs are talking about, even if it’s non-partisan.
Oh I’m familiar with it. My entire family operates this way. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. I joined the military due to my parents fears about Russia and China invading or some shit. Now I’m the liberal because I’ve actually educated myself, and here they are defending the very things they were terrified of 25 years ago just to own the libs.
I’m currently serving in the US military
lmao i hope you drown
I’m currently serving in the US military and am very confident that Western media at large is on the money
‘thank you for your service’, you say when someone describes their career pushing paper in the afghani legation quarter
I just want you to know as a member us military I hope you lose everything and end up drunk and homeless without ever being able to sleep. I’m glad that this is statistically likely.
Slightly misleading, he says that they should shoot at mexican cartels (which are now federally recognised as terrorist organisations) who are using planes and boats to smuggle drugs.
He’s still a price of shit who wants to eliminate rights though, but it’s always important to get the facts right.
Sending military into another country to kill people is starting an unprovoked war
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Huge budget surplus
That’s an indication of mismanagement because it just means they’re refusing to fund all the stuff they’re supposed to be doing.
Wrong - it means too much tax has been collected and it should be returned to the people that earned it. I wish my state would have a surplus instead of massive deficits all the time but thats whet democrats do.
Uhh uhh can’t tell if sarcasm, must refrain from replying…nyah…nyah…dang it.
Not at all. The state has a budget surplus and has a very friendly business environment. Those are facts. Also, shooting drug smugglers is the right call. What part of this is the problem?
You wrote “Good”…about killing with drones Mexican “criminals” in Mexico without a trial and without Mexico’s permission…you see nothing wrong with that? I don’t give a shit about his business friendliness if he’s going to start a
hybrid warspecial military operation with Mexico.
The two biggest things we could do to curb the cartels in Mexico there is absolutely no political appetite for.
First we need a real federal gun registry database to start drying up the influx of weapons. Almost every gun in Mexico came from the US, almost half of the trace requests come up blank because these forms are all filed on paper in a warehouse that they aren’t even allowed to index properly. The most nauseating thing is the gun Industry is in on it… don’t believe me? Look up (38 Super El Presidente model).
Second we need to legalize drugs. You can make it so it needs to be bought through a doctor and or psychiatrist, but make all that shit pennies on the dollar. Weed revenue might have dried up, but a significant portion of the rest of their revenue comes from harder drugs.
Almost every gun in Mexico came from the US
Absolutely untrue, at least in the way that you most likely mean it. The cartels aren’t getting things like M16s and 50 Caliber Automatics by purchasing them in the US because those things aren’t for sale in the US. They do get a shit ton of Pistols and Semi-Automatic rifles by smuggling them in from the US though.
…almost half of the trace requests come up blank because these forms are all filed on paper in a warehouse that they aren’t even allowed to index properly.
Partially. According to BATFE trace data there are several things that will cause a trace request to come back “blank”.
Unable to Determine a Purchaser" refers to those firearms that were manufactured in/imported into the U.S. but ATF was unable to determine the first retail purchaser through the trace process. Common reasons ATF is unable to identify a purchaser:
Incomplete firearms identifying data on the trace request form Incomplete or never received out‐of‐business federal firearms licensee records (upon discontinuance of business by a federal firearms licensee, the records shall be delivered within 30 days to ATF or other Attorney General stipulated location (Title 18 U.S.C. 923(g)(4)) Altered or obliterated firearm serial numbers The firearm is considered to be too old to trace Current federal firearms licensee records are incomplete or missing, or the federal firearms licensee was unresponsive to ATF’s request for trace information.Which intersects with my first point in a non-obvious way. If a member of the Mexican Army leaves, especially if they desert, they often take their issued weapons with them and those weapons are often provided to the MM by the USM. Those weapons don’t have a “Retail Entry Point” to trace since they basically go from the US Manufacturer directly to the US Military and from there to the Mexican Military. They also sometimes flat out sell them.
To be clear, there is a problem with North - South firearms smuggling but its not quite how you stated it.
Second we need to legalize drugs.
God Yes. The failed “War on Drugs” by the United States has been an incredible source of misery all across the world. It needs to end NOW.
You have a lot of good information that I am not going to debate about, but I wouldn’t say “Absolutely untrue” as I used the modifier “almost”. The majority of guns that are used in these killings do come across the border and are pistols and smaller caliber guns.
Do cartels have .50 caliber rifles and fully automatic, yes of course. But cartels aren’t arming their enforcers and hit man with those type of weapons. They are hard to conceal and expensive if you lose them, and at this point most teenagers would rather be a Zeta than a cop, so they have an infinite labor pool. The M16 is often worth more than the person holding it to them. They save those for their big intra-cartel war plays and to scare the government back into submission.
If all the Mexican government had to worry about were diverted military weapons there job would be significantly easier.
That’s not even getting to the discussion of how easy it is to drop an auto sear onto the back of a glock in minutes or pay someone in Mexico with a machine shop to do something similar with a lot of rifles.
Upvote for you and have an excellent day my good person!
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Yeah THANK GOD that it’ll be someone who thinks the best way to increase stability is to go to war.
This cunt talks about Iraq like he did something there. He was a fucking lawyer 😂.
didn’t he torture people in gitmo?
He worked there for sure, but we don’t know all the details of what he did there. He probably just advised the actual torturers that what they were doing was legal.
There was a Vice Documentary that got canceled recently, apparrenlty he watched people get tortured and recommended force feeding and other fucked up things https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/desantis-guantanamo-force-feedings-canceled-documentary-1234793826/
Posing as a human rights lawyer and illegally aiding in the torture of POWs at Guantanamo is the best way of forming a valid opinion on Iraq!
Nothing is more American than invading other countries and murdering their people.
*English. Ftfy
The US has been waging unprovoked war on Latin America since before WW1.
The only thing new about this is that this irredeemable piece of garbage is stating the quiet part out loud.
How about a new rule that if you vote for a war, you are automatically enlisted. And if you’re ineligible to enlist you must either abstain or vote no.
I hate DeSantis as much as the next guy but cmon, this title is misleading. He said he would “drone strikes cartels,” not that he wanted to go to war.
“i hate X as much as the next guy but cmon”
literal reddit bot
I’d say YOU guys (Hexbears and Lemmygradians) are bots. In fact, I’m probably talking to one right now.
The pronoun tags give it away. They’re completely random. My inbox as follows:
“none/use name” - “she/her” - “ze/hir” - “they/them” - “any” - “comrade/them” - “comrade/them” - “he/him”
Jfc did Russian propagandists just put the pronouns for these bots…on shuffle? I’m not saying all of you guys are bots but it seems like the majority. Lol I wonder if there’s a script I can use to shut you down.
The pronoun tags give it away. They’re completely random.
Nice transphobia you got there. How are cis people that fucking ignorant of nonbinary people existing?
NB exist but they aren’t 60% of the population like on hexbear.
I know it might come as a shock to you, but Hexbear’s not a random sample of the population.
That’s like saying Lemmygrad can’t be >90% communists because the global population isn’t
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You’re a fucking idiot lol
being a bot is when you have pronouns and the more pronouns you have the more Russian you are
I have “any”. So do i have the most pronouns or the least?
Yes
Am superbot
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Nope, it would make sense if the pronoun tags were 90% he/him and she/her, but the extent of variation among the tags user choose is completely unrealistic and arbitrary that any community would have.
Any tankie space would obviously be like 98% he/him neckbeards only.
We’re a radically pro-trans community. A purge of transphobes near the beginning was a formative moment for our community. We’re radically welcoming of trans folks, so a lot of trans folks post here.
Also trans folks are disproportionately leftist (for a good reason, liberation for trans folks cannot come through capitalism), the idea that “tankies” would be majority “he/him neckbeards” is silly, if not actually outright transphobic.
trans folks are disproportionately leftist for a good reason
I said “tankies,” not leftists. I’m sure most trans people are democratic socialists, anarchists, or non-authoritarian communists. I have a hard time believing a lot of you guys aren’t disinformation bots.
The way “tankie” is used today it just means communist who has actually read communist theory and understands the nature of imperialism and applies it correctly to the current geopolitical situation in the world.
Solipsism and paranoia win the day in your brain yet again. People can’t possibly earnestly have these opinions, because I’m not used to them, must be bots. Doesnt matter that they have three years of post history where they talk about innocuous stuff that has nothing to do with Russia and china. Thats just part of the act. And the fact that you think the pronoun tags make it MORE likely that we’re bots is even more laughable.
Its really fucking depressing seeing how effective the “bot” propaganda has been.
Liberal and Soc-Dem spaces are mostly white male neckbeards, so extrapolating further, leftists must be 200% he/him neckbeards.
Liberal and Soc-Dem spaces are mostly white male neckbeards
No they aren’t tf. Maybe on reddit but that’s 90% of reddit.
No, that is true, even if it is less directly disqualifying of the specific political tendencies, and the closing of practical horizons of American politics meant that there is a vast demobilization of political action. So, mostly because voting and engagement with mainstream politics is highly correlated with several axes of privilege, white people vote more than non-white, wealthy vote more than poor, etc. So, most mainstream politics and all electoral positions over-represents white middle-to-upper class. There is less of a gender gap on the face of it for parties than one would think because there are a lot of white and women from conservative areas that vote Republican. But there is also a boomerang effect of people that are privileged enough to not suffer ill effects of failure of sabotaged progressive movements such as the Black Panthers and Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition are more likely to vote to the left of the Democratic Party. Because you could get some minor pork-barrel spending if you support the establishment over progressive candidate that will just be crushed by the machine or fizzle out due to internal fractures and more minor sabotage.
So, yes they are. Maybe that is 90% of electoral politics, but it is true that Soc-Dems are disproportionately white men. Though that is more of mainstream politics over-representing privilege on many axes. And also if it is divorced from daily struggle and immediate issues (as mainstream politics works to alienate us from), then politics becomes horse-race stuff for nerds.
What are your opinions on pronoun tags?
Lol proving my point, this is like, the exact thing a bot would reply.
Lmao, seriously though, what your your opinions on them?
Support them.
Good, then why are you trying to use that as proof we are bots? Like have you ever even looked at hexbear.net?
Launching military ordnance into another country is the definition of war.
If it’s to kill terrorists that are enemies of both the US and Mexican government, not really.
Mexico isn’t fucking inviting the US to do it. They want the US to fuck off.
Still, misleading title, he’s not proposing a war. Could it potentially lead to war? Yeah but it’s very, very unlikely Mexico would actually declare war on America.
The United States is not an arbiter of which Mexicans are to be extrajudicially executed by drone strikes. You’re acting like a coward who’s only too happy the Mexicans are too weak to strike back.
What the fuck do you think putting your military into another country uninvited is? What the fuck are you doing quibbling over “potentially” a war or not? What you’re essentially saying here is that you’re ok with it as long if Mexico cowers and doesn’t fight back.
This is a disgusting level of nationalism. You’re already making excuses for america.
Typical hexbears to shove words down throats.
I never said I wasn’t against this, I’m merely saying the title should’ve been something like, “Ron DeSantis proposes uninvited drone strikes on Mexican cartel”
Why should a title help obscure the reality of calling to commit acts of war against our neighbor
“The American Supreme Court gives individual states the right to choose in reversal of Roe vs Wade”
How dare you shove my words back into my mouth! I wasn’t endorsing it! I was merely using Bush era talking points to obscure the reality of those actions and diminish their impact!
Maybe you should worry more about your meth-addled midwest shithole than try to turn socal into a warzone? Jesus christ I wish we could drone strike whatever meth lab you’re posting from.
Yeah right, and when Trump talked about the “bad hombres” coming over the border and bringing crime with them he was totally just talking about the bad Mexicans. This totally isn’t just another American candidate for the presidency stoking racial hatred to garner votes from people who believe these things.
This is literal insanity.
Are they going to put Mexican Americans in internment camps next?
The United States already runs multiple concentration camps on the border.
Sorry but they’re called ‘Migration Storage Facilities’ not Concentration camps by the trustworthy newspaper The New York Times. This obviously means they’re not concentration camps.
Next? They’ve already done it with ICE detention centers
Not to mention deported American citizens fairly frequently, since they assume any brown person who doesn’t have their license on them at the moment is illegally in the country.
https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/07/30/ice-deport-us-citizens/
Psychopathic, how can a politician like this have any popular support
The people who support him don’t know he said this… They literally don’t know shit about these people and only watch Fox news which wont air this
This is why Trump will win. Trump maybe dumb, but he’s not that stupid to go around telling peoples he gonna invade this and that.
Trump made Hillary eat so much shit over the Iraq War, and here you’ve got Ronny saying he wants to jumpstart the greatest refugee crisis in the world right at the border.
Why do you think your base wants a wall, Ron?
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262
“The Secure Fence Act of 2006, which called for construction of 700 miles of fencing and enhanced surveillance technology, such as unmanned drones, ground-based sensors, satellites, radar coverage and cameras. Sen. Chuck Schumer and then-Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were among a bipartisan majority that voted in favor of the legislation, and it was signed into law by President George W. Bush.”
Also Biden voted for it incase you don’t want to check the link
Dude is trying so hard to appeal to Trump’s base, but it isn’t working.
Trump is a full blown cult of personality at this point, no one else will do. Maybe that’s a good thing since he doesn’t seem to have much time left.
There’s a good chance his legacy will be even more dangerous.
He heard they had pudding
Edit: apparently I’m a Russian bot lmfao
Mmm humgwy!
Nazi.
Bruh you’ve gotta use vague signals and let the think tanks work with journalists to manufacture consent first.
Yeah, DeSantis should be good at this, sadly…
I’m way more worried about this Facist than trump.
Trump talks bigly but is not very effective.
DeSantis is not charismatic at all but I think he would be effective at what he attempted to do.
