Knock on wood, I have not used them in quite a while.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
      281·
      11 个月前

      I’ve full on stopped accepting new Google products, only exception being the pixel phone, but I’ll root that if they decide to drop support.

      I work in development and am proud to say I have convinced 3 companies now to steer clear of GCP because of their track record.

        • Thorned_Rose@kbin.social
          22·
          11 个月前

          That website shows how much Google buys up and then shuts down, centralising it’s power even more.

        • The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.orgEnglish
          11·
          11 个月前

          I mean, scrolling down that list, those all make sense. I guess if Google just did what all the other companies do and silently let go of these things instead of announcing that they are ending them so that developers and users know ahead of time not to expect long term stable and support that would be one thing. Google’s development process isn’t the same as everyone else’s though and their current method of developing tandem products and then gauging success of each and then folding the best features of the less successful one into the main one is obviously not a bad methodology as we have seen. As well it’s kind of important to a company to not waste resources on projects that customers both don’t find interesting and consume more resources than they generate while at the same time serve no greater benefit to anyone as a whole. Like, what do you want them to do? Nobody needs a web browser toolbar anymore, it’s 2023. Everyone screamed at and hated the entire concept of stadia, so they ended it. GPM was a financial failure with very few users that was due for a massive code overhaul. Like damn people, chill out.

          • tal@kbin.social
            1·
            11 个月前

            I mean, scrolling down that list, those all make sense.

            I’m not arguing that Google should have kept them going.

            But I think that it might be fair to say that Google did start a number of projects and then cancel them – even if sensibly – and that for people who start to rely on them, that’s frustrating.

            In some cases, like with Google Labs stuff, it was very explicit that anything there was experimental and not something that Google was committing to. If one relied on it, well, that’s kind of their fault.

            • The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.orgEnglish
              1·
              11 个月前

              Well that’s kind of the thing, that’s why Google announces they are ending those things. Most companies just end development silently and let those things differ l drift off without support or intention to solve issues which becomes incredibly telling for anyone who comes along and decides to integrate that software into their systems or daily life which later just becomes a massive problem down the line.

              Announcing the end of something, and even coming up with a solution for it like domains switching to square space, GPM transferring user songs into YouTube music, and SketchUp selling to Trimble are low or even zero hassle solutions that result in longer term support for their users without throwing a “sorry it’s all broken now, go fuck yourself” methodology

      • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
        English
        10·
        11 个月前

        Not to mention that the cpanels, documentation, and APIs for Google Cloud look like they were written by alien robots to be consumed by alien robots. I’ve never seen any other platform or docs as confusing and pointlessly convoluted as gcloud docs.

        • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
          11·
          11 个月前

          They’re the absolute worst. Doc links will go in circles, redirecting you back to where you just were, API documentation is out of date - or worse it’s out of date and doesn’t tell you until the end of reading if it even tells you at all.

          Not even mentioning how everything is in permanent “alpha” and “beta” state. Things are never finalized so they can get away with changing the definition on a whim and say “sorry it was in beta, now it’s in beta5”. I had to rewrite Pub/Sub code at least once a month because they changed their spec on that, and that was one of their “most finalized” products.

          Fuck GCP, I will actively avoid jobs that code on it now. If you want enterprise customers, provide an enterprise product. This isn’t chat where you can rebuild it every year because your marketers are bored. These are enterprise products that companies depend on.

          • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.ml
            English
            8·
            11 个月前

            Doc links will go in circles, redirecting you back to where you just were

            Right? Who the fuck created this standard? You’ll arrive at a doc trying to figure out how to get somewhere and it’ll tell you everything except for how to actually get there. It’ll finally have a link with the link text being the name of the section you’re trying to find, but noooo… It doesn’t actually link there, it links to a second document explaining the fucking history of that section, why they named it what they did, the engineer’s dog’s puppy’s name, and anything else to fluff out the doc without actually being useful. Why in the hell would you write a doc about an interface and not link to the relevant interface? I guess it’s probably because they completely rebuilt the way that website interfaces work and you can’t actually bookmark or deep link to anything. You always end up at the same page regardless of what you bookmark and then you have to manually navigate there. They took all the wonderful working features of the internet and broke them, then made alternatives that are 1000x worse.

            • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
              3·
              11 个月前

              I’m so happy, I’m not alone anymore… this frustration was a constant dread that I felt alone, and I feel like we’re two lost souls, wandering the plane of Google’s terrible documentation, lost forever looking for the json schema for the API we need, constantly searching, never finding it.

        • dx1@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          11 个月前

          Honestly, it’s not as bad as AWS or Azure. Plus if you use k8s it’s first-in-class support, since Google came up with k8s. There is a fairly steep learning curve though.

          If you’re deploying anything in cloud infra you need to make sure it’s portable between providers. Vendor lock-in is a big avoidable no-no.

            • dx1@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              11 个月前

              They’re both very complex so it’s understandable people would have different experiences. In general I’ve found GCP fairly straightforward, with shitty documentation, generally good support of fundamentals, great k8s support, good prices, fairly modern APIs, and relatively low feature coverage. AWS more built out, awful & totally inconsistent UI, better feature coverage, higher prices, and some pretty janky XML APIs if memory serves.

  • Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyzBEnglish
    406·
    11 个月前

    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

    Fewer Letters More Letters
    CF CloudFlare
    DNS Domain Name Service/System
    SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
    k8s Kubernetes container management package

    4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

    [Thread #54 for this sub, first seen 16th Aug 2023, 15:15] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

  • krnl386@lemmy.caEnglish
    15·
    11 个月前

    My order of preference for domain registrars is:

    1. Cloudflare (doesn’t support all TLDs, unfortunately)
    2. Porkbun (does have wide TLD support, and has no-bullshit pricing, albeit higher than Cloudflare)
    3. Namecheap. They’re cheap and Canadian… no other reason than just a backup to have.
    • einsteinx2@programming.devEnglish
      9·
      11 个月前

      I’ve been using Namecheap for years and have been happy with it. Why do you prefer Cloudflare? Is it for easier integration with Cloudflare services? How’s the pricing compared to Namecheap?

      Sorry for the interrogation lol

      • krnl386@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        11 个月前

        Cloudflare sells domains at cost. So yes, cheaper than any other registrar (including NameCheap and Porkbun), except maybe those who sell domains at a loss as a promo to rope you in and then kill you on the renewals.

        Integration into their stack is a nice side effect, but really inconsequential. You can have your domains registered with any registrar and have your DNS hosted by any DNS hosting provider. Heck, you can run your own DNS servers if you want to.

      • TheGreenGolem@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        11 个月前

        Cloudflare could be the cheapest (without cross-financing) because they advertise their pricing as they don’t add any additional fees to the ICANN fees. I never actually fact checked this though.

      • krnl386@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        11 个月前

        WHOIS privacy? Porkbun does that for free for all TLDs that support it.

        I don’t think I fully understand how what they offer isn’t “ownership by proxy”. I suppose they promise not to release your info if police ask for it? On the other hand, they technically own the domains you register through them, so if they get repossessed (e.g. through legal bankruptcy proceedings), whoever their new owner is, will presumably also own your domains…

        I’m probably not seeing something here, but this all sounds sketchy to me.

  • HousePanther@lemmy.goblackcat.comEnglish
    10·
    11 个月前

    I cuurently use one of three registrars: Namecheap, Cloudflare, or Porkbun. Porkbun is my favorite and I will move my domains to them as they expire.

    • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
      3·
      11 个月前

      For Europe and specifically if you need European ccTLD’s, inwx.de and netim.com have the largest selection and good prices.

      You can see other European registrars on this page but check if they support all the TLDs you need and the pricing, sometimes they have an oddly expensive price for one of them.

      Oh and a note about Gandi because it’s listed as “cheap” there, they’re currently jacking up their domain prices across the board. Until now they used to be sort of expensive, after this they’ll be the most expensive by 75-100% than the others.

  • Mockrenocks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    11 个月前

    Happened a while back. I had my domain on it and as soon as I saw the email I got a refund on my domain.

    If I wanted to be on squarespace, I would’ve joined squarespace.

  • Gunpachi@lemmings.worldEnglish
    7·
    11 个月前

    Oh no… I just bought a domain for my friend from there, only a few months ago.

    I should’ve used namesilo or porkbun instead.

    • body_by_make@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      11 个月前

      This one they emailed to people with slightly more detail. You could barely find any official information about this from Google after the last announcement, so it’s good they’re telling people now. Very annoying that I’m being forced into square space if I don’t transfer out before then though.

  • Seigest@lemmy.caEnglish
    5·
    11 个月前

    Well crap

    I pretty much only have my domain for my email adress. It’s also a back up plan should my career take another nose dive and I need a portfolio. Gsuite was good for all that.

    I’m not quite in the loop with best options for that kinda thing. And I been using the email for contract work for over a decade now. So I don’t want to give that up. Would cloudflare be good for that as well?

    • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
      1·
      11 个月前

      Netim.com includes a 1 GB email address and a website with 250 MB and SSL with any domain.

      If you want more email features you can delegate your MX records to Migadu.com, $20/year for unlimited mailboxes, domains, aliases etc. with 5 GB. The send/receive limits are soft limits, they don’t block emails if you go over. If you constantly and grossly go over your tier they ask you to consider going to the next one up but occasional misses are ok.