• Insanel0l@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    It’s very obvious that Kimmich is the main point of buildup whenever he plays, but it also opens up such easy counterplay that simply wasn’t there in the Dortmund game

    All you have to do is press Kimmich, he will find a solution 98/100 times, but the 2 times he doesn’t you get a big chance (or a red like vs Darmstadt)

    Idk how to fix it, not even a real #6 would help here, maybe he has to drop even further (Alonso style) to sit between the 2 CBs and have the coverage there

    • witz0r@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      You fix it by stopping the passes to Kimmich just outside the 18 when he’s facing his own goal. He immediately gets pressed from behind and instead of going right back to Neuer, he tries to play his way out of it.

      If he can’t handle that, you have to stop doing it. I cringe every time I see that pass and there’s a press coming.

      • FifaFrancesco@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        If he can’t handle that, you have to stop doing it.

        The thing is, he’s had multiple world class coaches with world class analytics teams and it’s still happening, at this point it surely isn’t fixable and/or a desirable outcome in the eyes of the coaches. Like surely this can’t still be a coincidence after all these years of this exact same thing happening, right?

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      11 months ago

      IMO best useful would be him being used in a double pivot, or playing with 3 centre-backs.

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      11 months ago

      Its why so many teams run double pivots. Even Rodri runs in a double pivot. Modern DM is just too complicated and important to be done by a single player now.

  • myreal_nameis@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Its always like this with a ball playing 6. Players move into attacking positions for the playmaker to pick a pass, if this goes wrong the defense is exposed.

    That’s what I find more interesting here. Look at the average positions when kimmich is playing. All players are a lot more advanced than in the other picture, even defenders. A lot of interesting points to discuss further from this.

  • HelpMeSum1Help@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Without Kimmich, I wonder whether Kane would drop deeper and get more involved in build up, thus scoring less, but assisting more. Similar happened with Tottenham when players were out/midfield was just overall not good