Five letters were mailed in total - four to Washington state, one to Fulton County in Georgia - Mr Raffensperger said.
The letters to Washington have been intercepted and some tested positive for fentanyl, he said.
Fentanyl!?!?!? Oh shit. Don’t you know that if a single molecule of Fentanyl is in a state then every cop in the tri-state area will suddenly enter a blind rage and start beating their wives.
The Tri-state area you say?
Doofenshmirtz’s domestic abuse-inator! Everyone run!
Ok, what is this video that everyone in this thread is talking about that I assume went viral recently
It’s just something that comes up a lot in different contexts IME. IMO it’s one more case of cops thinking the entire world wants to kill them.
A bunch of articles about it:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=officer+touched+fentanyl&ia=news
One of those results is this, which mentions a viral video, but I haven’t seen it.
Seen the video - it looks like he has a panic attack (probably because his boss is standing over him saying how dangerous it is), but they said he overdosed from touching it / potentially inhaling it and “nearly died”.
this implies that they ever leave the blind rage let alone stop beating their wives
Well, that explains all the cops beating their wives all the time I guess. I can’t find fault in your logic.
Cops being wimps aside, I think it does legit make users angry. They call it “opi-rage”.
Well, they’re either dealing with a troll or an idiot, and given that it’s election officials, I’ll say idiot. I’m a paramedic, I’ve worked with fentanyl a lot, getting fentanyl on your skin won’t kill you or send you into… Whatever happens to American cops when they “touch” fentanyl. I’m not saying it’s safe, the shit is insanely potent and prone to clumping, which is why it kills people way more than heroin or other opiates; 10 micrograms is the equivalent of one milligram of morphine. For the purpose of exposure, you either need to get it in contact with mucous membranes (medium speed) or have it in prolonged contact with the skin (pharmaceutically, this is done in some kind of gel preparation and absorption is S L O W). In other words, the person who sent this either believed the fentanyl was going to jump out of the letter and get the person who opened it, or they knew it wouldn’t kill them and just meant to shock or startle. I’m betting on the former.
Whatever happens to American cops when they “touch” fentanyl.
The reported symptoms when US police are “exposed” to fentanyl sound one hell of a lot like a plain old ordinary panic attack.
Yeah, one or two that I saw (online, not in person) looked a lot like anxiety attacks to me too, but it’s hard to feel strongly about that kind of judgment from this side of a video player.
Well, there’s no medical reason for them to convulse and pass out…
So we’re pretty much left with “gets scared and faints” as why it’s happening
Worth mentioning the signs of opiate overdose are the exact opposite of what those cops are doing. And most of them carry naloxone too so it’s not even a big deal if they manage to somehow ingest it
In neurology, psuedo-seizures are a thing.
This entails the person falsely believing they had a seizure. In fact, their movement, mental state, etc, can mimic an actual ictal event.
Often stress and anxiety are at least part of the issue, if not the leading cause.
However, they can be differentiated by EEG.
Source: I support medical staff in hospitals and deal with all sorts of information, my wife is an EEG technician, and oh yeah, I’m epileptic myself. I’ve seen most of the viewpoints surrounding seizures.
But they were nowhere near a school. Crazy stuff
yup… the nocebo effect
If I was a cop with fentanyl on my skin, I might use a narcan just to be safe. Probably get a day off too.
It like the train derailment. No one exposed to any levels high enough to be dangerous but all kinds of symptoms happening.
And whoever did this is absolutely fucked. They 100% are going after this stupid fuck with every law enforcement apparatus avaliable. I give him 2 weeks.
Yeah, you do not fuck with the mail. The feds are going to come for you, and they are going to find you. I hope that domestic terrorism related charge was worth it.
A bit cheezy but lowkey also pretty gangster
Oh fuck even your postal police are decked out in bulletproof armour.
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Genuine question (disclaimer: I have not and don’t plan to commit any crime by mail), how would they catch someone for this? It’s not like they put their return address on the envelope or something.
That’s easy: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/05/the-wrong-man/308019/
You decide some guy did it, ruin that guy’s life until he’s falsely convicted or the public forgets all about it. Then if neither of those work after six years you maybe look into other options.
Ask me how you solve a bombing at the Olympics.
They can tell what town, what center processed it, what mail box it came from, and then it’s just a matter of finding what camera is pointed at it.
This person is F.U.C.K.E.D
what mail box it came from
Y’all just believe whatever, huh?
A good trick when you hear some crazy shit like this is to ask yourself, “How and by what mechanism could this be true?”
My street has about 20 mailboxes. Mailman comes by every day and picks up whatever’s in the boxes with the flags up, stuffs it away. And BTW, his route is hours long. Now how you anyone even begin to guess what box a given letter came from, let alone what street? Probably a hard guess as to what neighborhood it came from.
Also thats ignoring the obvious solution to this problem. Go drive for several hours and put it in a random as drop off box at 2 am, dont put it in while driving your car and be careful of cameras and you could probably get away seamlessly.
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Stuffs it into a tray with a barcode that designates what route it’s from. i.e what section of the city and what streets.
EVERYTHING is tracked now. EVERYTHING.
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There is on the inside. There is a bin with a bar code that designates what mail box it comes from.
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Someone heard about anthrax letters and used the closest thing they had on hand.
I’m a paramedic, I’ve worked with fentanyl a lot, getting fentanyl on your skin won’t kill you or send you into… Whatever happens to American cops when they “touch” fentanyl.
I’m very skeptical every time I read one of those accounts, but have never been knowledgeable enough to be secure in my skepticism. Thanks for confirming this.
What happens if you open it and you breath in the dust, would that be harmful?
That’s plausible, IIRC the Russians used aerosolized fentanyl (or something closely related) when they killed the terrorists and pretty much everyone else* at the Bolshoi Theatre. I think you’d need a fairly substantial (I mean, relative to fentanyl) amount to go airborne in order to have a dangerous effect, though, and most people don’t explode envelopes open. Like, you’d probably have to get visible dust in the air at a minimum is what I’d guess, and I don’t think that was a realistic possibility here.
*I’m being hyperbolic, but let’s leave it at refusing to tell doctors what they’d used or what the antidote (Narcan) would be was wildly reckless and got a lot of folks pointlessly killed.
I don’t think the envelopes are exploding but when you open envelopes, sometimes things go airborne when you pull stuff out. It can happen with bags too, like flour just loves to go everywhere naturally. I wasn’t sure if airborne particles would harm someone if the air from moving the envelope made it go airborne.
It’s a valid question, but I don’t think that enough would go airborne to be dangerous under normal circumstances.
Thanks for taking the question seriously, I don’t know anything about these kind of drugs and what they’re capable of.
If fentanyl actually had the anti-cop effects cops like to pretend it does we’d be protecting our communities from them by dumping bags of the stuff on every street corner.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t… which is why we don’t.
Wait, what is this about fentanyl having “anti cop effects” - somehow I missed this conspiracy theory lol
It’s just the latest piece of pigprop intended to paint them as “victims.”
From the people that want you to know that they are the ones following the rules and it’s the other guys that aren’t, comes……
US election officials don’t want you to know this 1 simple trick they use to obtain free drugs.
Of course fentanyl cannot be absorbed through the skin. Remember when the Merry Pranksters were planning to combine LSD with another drug that could be absorbed and paint the drinking fountains of the Republican National Convention? They didn’t, but those were the days,
DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) does transport drugs through the skin; this was discovered in 1963, so it was in the news.
However, LSD is not a terribly stable molecule and does not go along with this plan.
Also, I’m pretty sure it was the Yippies (Abbie Hoffman’s bunch), not the Pranksters (Ken Kesey’s bunch).
Pretty sure I read about it in the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. But you are completely right. I believe it was a Stanley Owsley idea, and he never let a molecule get in his way. Anyway, I always thought it would be a fun idea with Viagra `
There are formulations that can be absorbed through the skin – transdermal patches for fentanyl exist – but it is certainly not going to happen accidentally or with regular formulations.
I’m assuming you’re talking about handling a dry powder form, to which I have zero experience so I can’t comment on. BUT fentanyl is absolutely administered through the skin with patches, used for slow release pain control. They’re incredibly helpful for people who aren’t getting medicated regularly or have difficulty with oral medications.
I hadn’t heard anything about this, was this recently?
1960s
Doesn’t need to be absorbed by the skin.
Opening it and having trace on your hands can land some of it in your mouth, eyes, nose, etc.
Don’t know if it would be enough to do harm, but pure fentanyl can kill at 2 milligrams. Which you could get in you through simple trace.
I’ve seen this episode. I think it originally aired in 2002 but it may have been earlier yet.
Do you mean Amerithrax?
This link leads to a transcript and podcast about this weird chain of events yet to be resolved.
Yes.
For everyone talking about how this isn’t dangerous- you’re missing the point. The point is to scare election workers out of working in elections. You know fentanyl isn’t dangerous on skin contact. Whoever is doing this is hoping they don’t.
I hope they wear gloves and masks when opening envelopes, just in case.
Trump Terrorists and Republicans will never stop trying to steal elections
But what about fentanyl laced cereal milk
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Fentanyl-laced envelopes have been sent to poll workers, sparking investigations in at least two US states, Georgia’s top election official says.
Brad Raffensperger said suspicious letters had been posted this week to vote counters in Georgia and the north-western US state of Washington.
The final envelope was still in transit to Georgia, where Mr Raffensperger said officials would provide the overdose-reversal drug nalaxone as a precaution.
His counterpart in Washington, Secretary of State Steve Hobbs, confirmed separately in a statement that election offices in four counties - King, Pierce, Skagit and Spokane - had received envelopes containing “unknown powdery substances”.
Local, state and federal authorities are investigating the incidents, which occurred while workers were counting ballots from the 7 November general election, said Mr Hobbs, a Democrat.
Fulton County in Georgia has been the target of repeated unfounded claims by former President Donald Trump of widespread ballot fraud.
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