• imbluedabudeedabuda@alien.topB
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    10 months ago
    • too many games.

    • not enough rotation because every player is expensive.

    • players are getting more athletic so more forces put into the ground at higher speeds and shorter ground contact times.

    • time off between seasons are way too short. pre seasons are way too short. 4 week preseason to go from sedentary to game speed is nowhere near enough.

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      10 months ago

      not enough rotation because every player is expensive so you’re not going to rotate out your 100m man when every game is must win.

      That is on the clubs. Top clubs have capacity to rotate but refuse to.

      • ThereWillBeGoals@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        I see this repeated a lot but it’s not true in reality. Pep and Klopp rotate more than anyone. Having deep benches allow you to do that. Clubs with shallower benches are forced to play their best XI more often.

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          10 months ago

          That is actually only partly true, city has one of the smaller squads - though oep rotates alot in his “17” outfield squad

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    10 months ago

    Too many games, high intensity football, lack of proper rotations

    And its only going to get worse next year because of the new format for European competitions

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      10 months ago

      Hogh intensity football is an underrated aspect imo. 5 sears ago most of the lesser teams would play low blocks and sit back. Today almost every team plays a high press but not all the players are built for it.

      • Blue_winged_yoshi@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        And 10 early 2000s small teams didn’t even play low blocks just generically bad football with a bit of defence, bit of attack no tactical fouls and big sides would play bottom half clubs in cruise control.

        The game is better for smaller clubs being significantly more capable, it’s one change I wouldn’t want to undo at all, but something has to give and tournaments should not be expanding at all as a bare minimum. It’s getting worse not better

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    10 months ago

    I always find it interesting how people here always complain how nation team managers always play their best players for their qualification games (8-10 games spread over 2 years) and disregard how clubs don’t rotate the same players in over 50 games per year.

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    10 months ago

    Might be them 5 minute var checks. standing still for 5 mins then immediately springing again surely can’t be good for you over time

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    10 months ago

    Has VAR also played some role here? I can imagine having 1-2 minute pauses several times a game can make you cool off pretty quickly and your muscles become more injury prone. I believe that’s actually what happened to van de Ven in the Tottenham - Chelsea game for example

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      10 months ago

      Van De Ven did not do his hamstring just because of a VAR pause. If the pauses were an issue you’d see it all the time in Rugby, which you don’t…

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        10 months ago

        Don’t jinx it. You can lose 2 starters in the space of a few days for 3 months when on international duty…

    • Maleficent_Resolve44@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Not sure about that mate. The number of domestic games played has been the same for 25+ years now. 38 league games, usual number of FA cup and EFL cup games too. A full UCL campaign has also been 13 games for 25+ years too. The world cup has been the same length for 25yrs as well and the Euros has only been one game longer in recent years since 2016.

      All these extra games that people think of like the new UCL league format, the club world cup and the 48 team world cup have not been implemented yet. There’s something else behind these injuries. It could be the increased intensity of the modern game or something else but blaming the number of games seems illogical because it hasn’t changed much.

      • random_nickname43796@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Longer injury time and the game has become more physical. Now it’s normal for players to run 10-12 km, before it was only for specific roles. Even the speed increased.

        So while the number of games didn’t increase yet, the playtime and intensity has. And if the number of games increases the situation will get even worse

  • matthewjames1991@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    The level of premier league, cup and European games is relatively the same. However, the level of needless international friendliest, shoe-horned winter world cups and pointless nations league tournaments is ridiculous. Glad Harry Kane at least gets a winter break before the Euros.

    • TheHabro@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      I’m sorry how is a player playing for league and UCL in the same week different from playing in two international games in a week?

    • qu1x0t1cZ@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      I’m sure when the Nations League was first announced UEFA said that it would eventually replace Euros qualifiers. Probably changed their minds in favour of more cash.

      As an aside I hate how big the Euros has become. When I was a kid it was 16 teams representing most of the top 20 international teams in the world. Short tournament, high quality, good fun. Now it’s too diluted.

      • moonski@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        The euros was peak at 16. Almost no dead rubbers even in the groups, just a quality tournament all round.