• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    For fuck’s sake… imagine finding out your father, the richest man in the world, fought to only have to pay your mother less than $3000 a month in child support!

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      The issue is not that it’s to limit to less than 3k. It’s to have a limit at to begin with (California doesn’t have any, so it might cost him dozens or hundreds of thousands a month). Plus, maybe he’s got more chances to keep custody (shared) in Texas than California.

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        so it might cost him dozens or hundreds of thousands a month

        Oh no! The man worth hundreds of billions might have to pay far less than 1% of his wealth to his kids! They’re bleeding him dry, I tell you!

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          He wouldn’t be paying it to his kids though, but their mom.

          $3k in child support is more than most get, who said he hasn’t set up a trust fund for the kid when it grows up / isn’t giving it stocks / inheritance?

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            Because there’s no way he could possibly do both of those things.

            And he definitely should be paying lawyers to fight this in court. I’m sure his kids will really love to hear about that one day.

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              Again, the kid’s gonna have enough support to have a comfortable childhood, much more than the average child probably.

              This money is going to the mom, Musk might not want that, and I honestly think that the majority people would feel the same way in his place.

              Don’t get me wrong, Musk is a dumbass, but people around here get blinded by emotions and hatred towards him and don’t even try to think about the situation at all.

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                How would you like it if you heard that your dad, the richest man in the world, fought against paying child support for you because it would only go to your mother anyway?

                Do you think that would make you think highly of your dad?

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                  Depends entirely on the circumstances.

                  Did I have a nice childhood? Did I get to go to all the clubs I wanted to go to? Did I get the education I wanted?

                  In my opinion, having too much money is harmful for a child, best to keep it in a fund for college / a downpayment.

                  3k a month is enough.

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      where $3k a month is literally a rounding error on the dickface’s net worth. I bet he spends $3k a month on rogain.

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      Well, if he didn’t live there and have to pay so litttle, he woudln’t be the richest man in the world, would he?

      /s

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      I think out of all the things I’ve heard about Elon Musk, this might be the thing that disgusts me the most.

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      For three kids. So 1k each.

      It’s not about the money. It’s about power. He needs her to need him, because no woman in their right mind would fuck with him without that dependency.

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      Imagine spending $100/day solely on your child. This is a crazy amount of money already, why is everyone upset?

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        Oh, you must be unaware of who this is. He is (or was, we’ll see after his Xitter debacle) actually one of the richest men on the planet, and despite being able to pay thousands a day solely on his own child without even noticing, he’s going to great lengths to avoid paying more than the absolute bare minimum for his own child.

        Hope that clears it up.

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          The mother still pays and is very capable of providing. 3k is not the bare minimum when it’s, by decree, the maximum allowed by the state.

          It’s not because you can spend that you should and want to spend your money (I could spend more than I do, I prefer keeping some for emergencies and special projects and investments.

          Texas has a child support limit, but it might not be the only reason he wants to do it the, he might have more chance to keep custody there over California.

          People keep downvoting anyone who is not against Elon Musk, no need to be supportive of him, just simply stating that some arguments against him might be wrong is enough to get downvoted to hell.
          This is just Reddit all over again.

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          In what world is $2700/month “the absolute bare minimum” for a child? What amount seems reasonable to support a small child?

          Or, more to the point, why is everyone pretending that’s not an outrageous amount?

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            The same world that produced the USDA Expenditures on Children by Families Consumer Expenditure Survey results, in which that amount is similar to other numbers. The US government may or may not have artificially inflated these numbers for intrinsic benefits. Depending on how you slice the numbers or what variables in that child’s life are at play, a child can easily cost more than $2700 a month, but millions of families also raise multiple children simultaneously on less money than that. In the same world where rent prices on 1-2 bedroom places can start upwards from $1500/month, what values do make sense? The answer to that depends on whether we’re talking about Musk or actual people.

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            Because it’s not an outrageous amount if you are one of the richest people on earth. It’s all relative.

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        And on California rent… child support doesn’t need to go directly to your child, groceries and rent/utilities are also considered a valid use

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      It’s like he’s taken a page out of Steve Jobs’ book but not gone as far to say the kid isn’t his at all

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    Musk is a scumbag from the get-go.

    If he didn’t want to support his kids he never should have had any.

    Wearing a condom isn’t that hard to do.

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      He’s a giant selfish piece of shit with a messiah/god complex who was born on third with Hank Aaron at bat, any sane society would’ve dropped him into the deep wilderness with a bindle a decade ago. I hope he takes up submarining

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        Between the space travel and brain implants, his own companies have plenty of good options besides submarining.

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          Unfortunately I think he’s too much of a coward to go first on any of those himself, probably for my suggestion too, I hope he proves me wrong with the brain implants and then something doesn’t go terribly wrong with the inputs to the pain centers of his brain

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      Its even crazier than that.

      With his first wife, their first child died of sides and they actively used IVF. They then had a set of twins and a set of triplets (I’m assuming they were all via IVF, but I’m not sure). One of those children is the estranged trans person who changed their last name.

      His two children with Grimes (including the one this article is about) were via surrogate.

      He’s not just refusing to wear a condom. He’s a lively spending thousands of dollars, and women are undergoing surgery, in order to have children for him to neglect. It’s bizarre.

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        He’s had more since …

        Twins with Neuralink director of operations and special projects Shivon Zilis in November 2021.

        A third child with Grimes, named Techno Mechanicus, according to a book review published by the New York Times on Sept. 9, 2023.

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          Oh thank you. I was not including the naturally conceived children. But I see now that this article is about Techno Mechanics, whose details are less publicly available.

          Although if Grimes has been pregnant in public I’m sure some gossip magazines would have reported on it.

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        I’m convinced that it’s some transhumanist scheme to download his consciousness into one of his brood via the Neuralink bullshit.

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      Iirc he believes that it’s his duty to procreate and produce as many white people as possible to prevent replacement.

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        The replacement part is bullshit made up to hate.

        He thinks EVERYONE needs to have more kids as the world is going to run into major problems with population decline, like is happening In Japan if trends continue.

        I don’t agree with him, but he is advocating for everyone, not white people.

        Edit: and he has talked about this many times, it’s not new.

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        And yet he’s too lazy to give his “awesome Aryan super race” kids half decent names. And even his Dad was a technocrat nazi who despised the peasants. The gene pool behind this fucker should have been laid to waste a long time ago. Absolute parasite.

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      Or else what?

      What consequences does he face other than people on the internet calling him mean names?

      Morals are for poor people. They’re the only ones who suffer consequences for not having them.

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    Boo hoo, pay the support, you pompous sycophant. It’ll be the least amount of money you’ll lose compared to the public embarrassment of buying Twitter and losing billions within the year you’ve bought it.

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    Did we just ignore the fact that he uses a harness on his kid so he won’t run away? (See article picture)

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      He’s actually known for the opposite: letting his pretty young child run around, exploring, even in the SpaceX factory (always while watching at a distance). He understands that children need not to be over protected.

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    I’m no Muskcuck, but I am in favor of capping the generational transfer of wealth. Let these big inequalities die with this generation and set up a (more) even playing field for the next. If the rich want enhanced educational outcomes for their kids they have to fund public institutions.

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        He didn’t say Musk shouldn’t have to pay child support.

        He’s arguing that his children shouldn’t be billionaires out the gate because their daddy screwed over other parents.

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          They wouldn’t even become billionaires if he had to pay a million a month.

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            Missing the point of the comment thread?

            If musk was a billionaire then died and settled in the money to his kids then how are they not billionaires?

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      I’m so glad this insane take will die on the internet where it belongs.

      Imagine telling a grown adult they can’t give their kids things.

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          Because it’s truly insane and will never get any support in real life.

          Absolutely no one will vote in favor of the government confiscating all of your property when you die. Tankie shit isn’t popular outside of a handful of message boards.

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            Holy multi Strawman attack batman LOL.

            Because it’s truly insane and will never get any support in real life.

            It’s got lots of support IRL already. I support it, therefore your assertion of ‘never get support in real life’ is specious and incorrect.

            Absolutely no one

            bzzzt wrong again, I’d vote for estate tax reform in a heartbeat.

            no one will vote in favor of the government confiscating all of your property when you die.

            if this is what you think the estate tax is you’re incredibly stupid. yet another misrepresentation of reality to fit into your premise, but it’s so fucking dumb from the outset it doesn’t even warrant a reply. Yet here we are.

            Tankie shit isn’t popular outside of a handful of message boards.

            Taxing the ultra wealthy isn’t ‘tankie shit’ you fucking dirtbag. Cute attempt to associate ‘people who don’t think a few should horde all the wealth’ with ‘tankies’.

            Your entire argument is lies and garbage. Please, just stop whatever weird piece of performance art this utter shitshow is.

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              Estate tax is a tax, not a confiscation. If the tax were two high it would require manu inheritors to sell shares to shares to pay it, which would dump the share price of a company.

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              It’s got lots of support IRL already. I support it, therefore your assertion of ‘never get support in real life’ is specious and incorrect.

              Lol

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                that’s all you got huh?

                weaksauce. no refutation, no thesis just… lol.

                god what a waste of time your entire existence must be.

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            Capping the amount of wealth anyone can inherit seems sane to me. In fact it seems healthy for the whole economy, so not just sane but prudent. If you let all the wealth be collected by a few the system breaks down and all the money becomes worthless. Preventing that is entirely sane.

            I’m against preventing the transfer all all property. That seems like a recipe for corruption but I’d vote for limiting it to a trust of like $50-$100 million maximum plus an occupied home, a vacation home, and some reasonable amount of small property like boats and cars. Honestly that amount seems excessive to me but I think the majority would be in favor of such a law.

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              If you let all the wealth be collected by a few the system breaks down and all the money becomes worthless.

              This is not how wealth works

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                An economy only works when a majority participates. An ideal economy has everyone participating.

                You can do a basic thought experiment to figure this out. Imagine 10 people control $100 trillion. Everyone else controls $0. What do you think you’ll be able to get for $1?

                You might then say, “money isn’t wealth.” True. But if 10 people control all the wealth and everyone else has starved to death that’s even worse.

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        give all the things you want. multiple BILLIONS of dollars? nah man.

        imagine telling a grown adult one person shouldn’t horder 30% of the money. IMAGINE!

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          imagine telling a grown adult one person shouldn’t horder 30% of the money. IMAGINE!

          Two things.

          1: You can just tax rich people without crazy-ass plans like this

          2: this isn’t how money works

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          Yeah they’re definitely getting billions in cash??

          When they own a company where does it go when they die? Does the government just get it?

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    I always wondered why Musk keeps taking X around to all the things and never any of his other kids.

    I previously attributed it to getting good PR.

    I now sees it’s how he’s going to “win” against Grimes.

    Doucheladdle

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      I mean does anyone feel bad for Grimes?

      It’s not like it was some big secret he was an egomaniac years ago.