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A judge has found “reasonable evidence” that Elon Musk and other executives at Tesla knew that the company’s self-driving technology was defective but still allowed the cars to be driven in an unsafe manner anyway, according to a recent ruling issued in Florida.
Palm Beach county circuit court judge Reid Scott said he had found evidence that Tesla “engaged in a marketing strategy that painted the products as autonomous” and that Musk’s public statements about the technology “had a significant effect on the belief about the capabilities of the products”.
The ruling, reported by Reuters on Wednesday, clears the way for a lawsuit over a fatal crash in 2019 north of Miami involving a Tesla Model 3. The vehicle crashed into an 18-wheeler truck that had turned on to the road into the path of driver Stephen Banner, shearing off the Tesla’s roof and killing Banner.
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AI employee: “we can’t release the cars, senior muskrat! we just don’t have enough test data to guarantee the algorithm works!”
Senior Muskrat: “test data, you say…”
galaxy brain intensifies
The real elephant in the room with AI is that when it works, the network has been over-fitted to the output. And when something completely novel is fed into it, it spits out nonsense that runs over your dog because it looked like a shadow on the asphalt. Poor fido.
Poor guy is having a rough week.
Maybe they should start a new motor racing series where autonomous cars race 24 hours in 80km/h with random people walking on the circuit. Then we can trust autonomous cars.
Its definitly insane how hearly Tesla started selling their “self driving” cars. the fact that there are cars that paid for self driving, and then never got more than a Level 3 system is insane.
The concept of autonomous cars might be game over.
As always, advocates forgot about corporate greeds. Do you trust your manufacturer to not lie to you? So much you risk killing yourself, your family and people on the road?
Hell yeah, let these drivers behind the wheel plow into more semi trucks. They deserve it after all. /s
I think you need protected ways where no people or non autonomous vehicles may enter. Shy of that, I think you’re right.
You’ve just described a train line sir, and we need way more of that shit around here
Maybe at least until there’s a better comprehensive infrastructure of external sensors on the road, at intersections, etc etc etc, to control and limit vehicle movement, but that probably will be a long while before getting those improvements considering normal routine road and bridge maintenance is far behind as it is.
To me, autonomous vehicles are like AI (it actually is AI in the case of Tesla): the public perception is that it’s way better than it really is because it’s really good in 80% of cases. But to get to 90-95% will take many many years still. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use them, neither abandon them. To progress, we have to keep using them with caution. Learn the limits and work within it. Don’t start firing people to be replaced with AI because in a few months and years you’ll realize that the 20% left to improve will be hurting more than your thought. The same way you shouldn’t remove drivers just yet.
Yeah, the scary part of this is that as much as I absolutely would never go near this shit with a ten foot pole when it’s clearly still woefully inadequate and over hyped… They very frequently drive withing ten feet of me because for some reason it’s legal to put this shit on roads with unwilling participants.
I get it there’s inevitable interference of interest here but we can’t really tell other people to not do things we don’t like in a free country
Edit: this is clearly being misinterpreted. I am NOT talking about the Tesla. I’m saying a hypothetical, well-regulated self-driving car can be fielded without the permission of every other motorist that thinks they’re icky.
in a free country
What do you mean when you say this?
I am referring to America which prides itself on freedom (and not enough on equality and collectivism) . I’m just saying it makes legal sense that you don’t need the consent of every other motorist to operate a self-driving car (if it passes safety regulations and assuming no problems of regulatory capture). Both of those assumptions are not applicable here
How can you take pride in freedom while simultaneously having the most non violent offenders of any state to ever exist, in terms of raw numbers and per capita?
“Full Self Driving” was such bullshit, call it Tesla Driving Assistant or something.
This article is about Autopilot which is advanced cruise control.
