Hahaha the fucking lot of you that are criticising him, would you say no if you were in his shoes? I wouldn’t even put it past the fact that he went out of loyalty for Stevie, Hendo is that sort of guy. Like many have pointed out, 10million on top of whatever’s he has made as the only motivation seems too simple as well
He started his international career by being booed by the fans and he will finish it the same way
celebs should never ever be taken seriously when it comes to any other matter than the one they actually excel at, be it football or acting etc.
No I dont want a fucking actor, raised by actors, isolated from society telling me how to vote or what to think about economics. Same goes for footballers. These people are not normal in any sense of the word nor do they have any understanding of the world they live in so sheltered.
I generally agree with you but just playing devil’s advocate, I think Rashford used his voice and position well to make good effective change.
There’s definitely positive examples yes. But by golly are they rare and mostly something we can only judge on the surface. Geniunely appreciate Rashys work a lot but I’m saddened he even has to do that level of advocating for such a no brainer
Yeah you’d think starving children = bad is a fairly easy position for all of us to get behind.
But Tories gonna Tory.
Tories: “We have to leave the EU to take care of our own.”
Starving British kids: “So does that mean we’ll finally have food?”
Tories: “Eww, no, fuck off.”
Agree. Fans (peasants) wants celebrities to stand up for them, no matter what the political view is, and when they mess up they get all mad. No shit, theyre celebrities. Not politicians or activists.
Not only is Jake Daniels gay but he’s also poor. Offer 350k net per week and you would have more allies Jake, duh.
/s, obviously
Not everybody agrees with homosexuality. It’s a choice. It was still illegal over a century ago.
“It’s a choice”, go fuck yourself tbh, ppl have been gay all throughout history
go fuck yourself
Boo fucking hoo mate. His career, his choice.
Hendersons whole legacy was tarnished by this, that’s crazy
No, no it wasn’t.
Sincerely, a Liverpool fan who enjoyed watching Henderson captain us to the PL & CL.
Yes, yes it was
Sincerely, a gay liverpool fan who gained confidence in knowing our captain supported people like me, just for it to turn out to be a publicity move all along.
Henderson already did more for the LGBT community than 99% of all footballers, that’s an indisputable fact.
I think the fact that FIFA have decided to host a World cup there is about a million times worse than this non story.
It seems like he’s not going to jeopardise generational wealth over virtue signalling
he’s not going to jeopardise generational wealth over virtue signalling
he could have just had some actual virtue
Never had if he chose the bag over what he believes in… Question we should ask is if Jake Daniels would go earn the bag at Saudi rather than rotting at a league one bench
Question we should ask is if Jake Daniels would go earn the bag at Saudi rather than rotting at a league one bench
I think Jake, an openly gay man, might have a couple issues going to the Saudi league to be honest
Foreigners/expats have different rules in saudi…everyone knows this, he’ll be alright if he doesn’t make a big fuss about being gay
Let him do what he wants to do. It’s no one’s business, but his.
we all are tho? We have the right to criticise his actions too though
Sure, you can live your life being constantly offended by others, or you can live your life as you want to.
Just goes to show pro athletes should not get involved with causes like this.
Loads of players have gone to Saudi and Henderson takes as much flack as the rest of them put together.
If he keeps his mouth shut and doesn’t get involved with LBGT causes he would have been just another player getting a massive end of career payday.
Horrible take. Surely the conclusion should be that when athletes get involved in social causes, they shouldn’t completely betray them. It’s not that hard an ask.
It just goes to show that most ‘holier than thou’ people are just virtue signalling twats.
This.
It’s extremely easy to defend someone or something when you’ve got nothing to lose. Henderson had a lot to gain actually.
He basically went from being rich to being slightly more rich. I don’t think he increases his quality of life much.
The best part is how he tries to justify it, like him being in Saudi will make any sort of difference. Not only is he a man who’s word have no value whatsoever… He’s probably also has an exaggerated sense of self worth( I think a lot of celebrities would have ).
I think it is a good thing to show solidarity, be passionate about a cause or causes and speak up about it.
I don’t think the language you’re using is helpful here, seems like a very cynical worldview. Just because Jordan Henderson sold out his beliefs for a bit of cash doesn’t mean that everyone who cares about social causes is a “virtue signalling twt” and it’s unhelpful to tarnish people with that brush.
Just my two cents on the matter seeing as you gave yours
So is the lesson to not be an advocate for the whole lbgt thing? Because dozens of footballers joined the saudi league from Europe this summer and as far as i can see the only one getting this kind of negative reaction is the one guy who went out of his way to be an ally for them.
Funny way to say “don’t throw away all your supposed ‘morals’ for a bag of cash and expect no pushback”
But the people who said nothing about lbgt get no pushback, so clearly they’re better off, no?
Why would they get pushback?
They never claimed to support lgbt people so why would we have issue with them?
Right, so the lesson is to not support lgbt issues.
(Weird lesson…)
That’s a weird way of saying don’t be a sellout…
You would think the lgbt community would want high profile athletes to support their cause though. Seems counterintuitive to discourage it.
Who’s discouraging support? I’m not sure you realise why people are actually annoyed with Henderson.
If he was really a supporter of lgbt people, why would he work in a country where it is ILLEGAL for us to be there? If I wanted to go and see Henderson play over there, I’d be arrested before I left the airport.
Imagine if singer claimed to be in support of domestic violence victims, and then went and made a song with Chris Brown. Would you then be angry at domestic violence victims for condemning the singer?
Henderson could have stayed at Liverpool, less game time but become a mentor, done more charity work etc and cement himself as a Liverpool legend.
Instead he threw it all away to play in front of 800 people, lose all good will, and I guess make bank. Hope that’s worth your legacy being tarnished.
He didn’t throw it all away.
He’s already a Liverpool legend regardless. He captained the team to the first league title in 30 years and a CL title as well.
He’s getting playing time and the bag in Saudi Arabia. Can’t blame him.
Are Liverpool fans not singing about Steven Gerrard any more?
Are Liverpool fans not singing about Steven Gerrard any more?
Did Steven Gerrard make a big show of supporting LGBT and then fuck off to Saudia Arabia for money?
No?
Okay, then your comparison is pointless.
Gerrard only physically assaulted someone and sucks up to organised crime.
But did he come out against violence and organised crime BEFORE he did those things?
I never claimed he wasn’t a dick. I claimed comparisons to Henderson were erroneous.
The comparison holds, Gerrard’s reputation is fine despite his ties to organised crime and his own historic offence(s).
Henderson’s hypocrisy vis-a-vis Saudi Arabia does not outweigh that in most people’s estimation.
And if you think insincerely milking a bit of positive PR is worse than assaulting someone, then you need to get out more.
The comparison doesn’t hold. I’ve already explained why. “Worse” doesn’t come into it. It’s not relevant to why the comparison is awful.
“Person says A is a terrible thing and then does A.”
“Person says nothing public about B and then does B.”
I shouldn’t have to break it down that basic for you but apparently, you don’t get it unless I do.
“Are Liverpool fans not singing about Steven Gerrard any more?” was the qoute. The inference being that gerrard did bad things and is still a hero so why isn’t Henderson? For the reason I just explained.
It’s a terrible, terrible comparison.
But Henderson hasn’t done ‘A’. He’s just sold out to people who do ‘A’.
Whereas Gerrard has done ‘B’. Which is bad regardless of whether or not he’s publicly denounced it previously. Because organised crime and physically attacking people is bad by default.
That’s the comparison. Gerrard’s reputation is intact because barely anyone gives a shit about the moral dimension of his character. By this same measure, Henderson’s will be fine also.
Your logic is astoundingly moronic. It’s like saying Adam Johnson never spoke out against pumping kids so doesn’t belong in the same conversation as Henderson.
I actually think Liverpool wanted him gone and encouraged it. FFP means that £12m is pure profit and it got his large wages off the books.
Club upper management, almost certainly
Klopp would have been happy for him to stay, fans too - if he accepted the much reduced role. Last season made it clear he was done as a first team player for us.
Unfortunately Southgate didn’t get the memo.
The only legacy he will now leave is one of hypocrisy.
Give it 5 years mate and he’s a Liverpool legend still and everyone has forgotten this,
I mean if you spoke to about 90% of Liverpool fans IRL I don’t think they give a shit either
but people on the internet told me what to think.
Reddit isn’t reflective of real life
Rich guy insincerely takes up moral/political stance which is PR friendly, commercially safe, and unradical.
Tale as old as time.