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Hmmm… I think I’ll go for the second this time around.
I’d also vote for DeSantis or Ramaswami this election. I refuse to vote for Biden (or whoever is calling the shots behind him), or Harris, or Newsom.
Seriously, how is it possible that my own party can’t get their shit together and find an actually likable candidate that can at least convince me they might be doing it for my own interests?
So now you vote for the other party that’s even worse at what you criticise? Did I get this right?
Weird, I was sold almost the exact same line in 2020.
And then they actually tried to do exactly what the meme predicts. We are just lucky that the magas were too stupid
Really? Can you cite this? The Internet was around then. Should be easy to find an equivalent quote like, say, Cheney’s.
“You are promising America tonight, you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody?”
“Except on Day One,”
Oh look. An exact quote where Trump says he’ll abuse power. Go ahead. Still waiting for a prior election “exact same line”
Come on. Should be easy!
Annnd thennnnnn… what happened on Jan 6th?
It’s almost like the same totalitarian is running on the GOP ticket.
It’s almost like he already won in 2016 and lo and behold, we can still vote again 4 years later.
It wasn’t for lack of him trying though
This is so dumb. He didn’t try to not let people vote. Every loser every year claims recounts are needed, they just usually don’t use the system to try and prove it. He’s using the system to try and prove it. The system is there for a reason
Stop trying to claim he’s stopping people from voting.
He claimed 3 million illegal votes during an election he won. 3 million… then what did he do once becoming president after an accusation of the largest voter fraud claim for a democracy in history? Nothing. Barely mentioned it. No enormous investigation to arrest the thousands of people that would have needed to be involved to coordinate 3 million illegal votes. Nothing. Why? Because it was just something for him to say off the cuff. He took a page from his hero Roy Cohn to just declare victory even when defeated. Lose a case? Just claim victory. Lose a popular vote count? Just claim victory. He has done it all his life and doesn’t care how easily it is for some people to believe his off-the-cuff lies even when they can threaten democracy itself. He will never concede a loss and doesn’t care who it hurts. He will also never have the evidence for his claims because he doesn’t need any.
You mustn’t have paid any attention to his barrage of executive orders and insanely corrupt appointments. The Supreme Court nominations alone are more than eyebrow raising.
That accounts for one half of the “meme”, not sure what the excuse is for the other half still holding true.
You mean you are on Lemmy and haven’t heard of Project 2025? Brother. You have some reading to do.
This is the only argument left for Democrats.
I don’t know much about US politics, but is Biden the only choice you have besides voting for Trump? There’s zero alternatives? I’ve seen in the comments that people prefer Biden to other democrat candidates, because he already beat Trump already, so it has better chances to beat him again. But realistically, it seems like everyone hates Trump with a burning passion, so any Democrat that is not batshit insane and totally incompetent would beat him, right? Seems like an easy win.
So what you’re talking about is a primary contender from the democratic party, but generally the incumbent party doesn’t have a primary for the president. Your only real options are the Democrat (Biden, unless he dies), or the Republican (looking like Trump, but they will have a primary). You can vote for other people, but it doesn’t do anything. You might as well try to get the better option than choosing not to vote out of spite, and getting whatever happens regardless.
looking like Trump, but they will have a primary
Or unless he dies. He’s basically the same age as Biden and unlike Biden hasn’t taken care of himself.
Yeah, totally an option, or he is found guilty of treason or some other disqualifying thing. I was just pointing out that Republicans do have a primary this election for president, so there are more options for them.
Yeah, there just seems to be this meme of “Biden, old man, about to die” that never gets applied to Trump.
Correct. That’s how a 2 party system works. You vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
there’s a 19yo candidate ? looks like I’m completely out of the loop
Wonky font. It is 79.
shit I see it now thx
The downvotes on this post are incredibly suspect for lemmy.ml.
The logic of the picture is dumb as fuck.
If Trump wanted to get rid of voting, why didn’t he do so last time? How about we just get better security at the capitol, and eliminate whatever loophole he was trying to use in the insurrection?
That’s whats the coup attempt was for, as well as the attempts to override or stop polls from counting the votes across the country. Just because he failed this time doesn’t mean it won’t happen again. Hitler was democratically elected after becoming famous for the book he wrote in jail after being arrested during the Nazi’s first failed coup attempt, Mein Kampf. He then consolidated political power into a new position with the support of party members who were elected to key positions, and he then appointed himself to that new position. Same as what has happened in many other countries. A few crazies in the right seats. The Nazi party only made up 13% of the German population at its height. That’s all it takes.
Never voting again sounds good to me, since that way people would realize how pointless it is. Unfortunately neither option will lead to that outcome and people will pat themselves on the back after voting for the Capitalist party.
Are you saying there are no differences at all between which party is in power? That people’s loves aren’t objectively better under one party than another?
Ah yes, not participating. The way to change the system is to not participate. All we have to do is let the republicans win, so they can make being gay illegal, abolish no-fault divorce, and re-introduce christian indoctrination in the classroom. Then everyone will finally realize it’s all stupid and they’ll release all the gay criminals and atheist teachers from jail and say “Sorry! Thanks for not voting, now we realize both parties were the problem!”
You would probably still vote but there would only be one party to vote for. Voting might become mandatory too
The Capitalist party is who you will be voting for, so materially what is the difference?
We’d be voting for the Nazi party, silly. Any other party would be declared a terrorist organization and all members would be arrested or worse.
Oh that sounds terrible. So we should vote for a party who doesn’t agree with, doesn’t support, and doesn’t call those people friends while they hangout at the same fund raising parties right?
Right now the options are limited. Neither are good but one is terrible and dangerous for the U.S. and the world.
Your democracy has bugs…
Democracy 0.0.1alpha1
Maybe the democrats should pull their heads up from their asses and realize that “vote for us or else” doesn’t have the rallying power they think it does, especially when they’re repeating it every election cycle.
Just some thoughts from someone outside the US.
It’s like they don’t actually care and are actively courting fascism to use it as a boogy man rather than helping change things for the better.
More like “It doesn’t matter how you vote, the evil party is going to win because the slightly-less-evil party just lost a large chunk of their voter base because funding a ethnic genocide in the middle east was a hill they were dying on”
Do your part by voting for the slightly less shit party, but don’t be surprised when it happens anyway, they’re counting on it. They want it. Whenever they need to do something evil they can just throw the election so the republicans can take the hit for them, just like every time.
STOP VOTING FOR GENOCIDE YOU FUCKING GHOUL. It’s not hard.
Buy guns. No matter who wins, you may need them.
Arm yourself and your community.
Just because it’s true doesn’t mean it isn’t bullshit. We’re fucked.
This hits 100% true.
Voting for Joe Brandon is a no brainer.
Joe Brandon is a no brainer
This was the same promise in 2020. And yet here we are. Democrats should have done better than beg to save democracy one more time.
You need to eat to make sure you survive. Your stomach keeps fighting for your body to be empty of food.
Your subsonsious pushes you to eat. Do you eat then complain that you need to eat again later? Or can you understand that needing to eat doesn’t go away because you have eaten?
Yeah but we don’t have to eat shit to survive do we? So why the fuck are we acting like Biden was our only choice. What kind of stupid analogy is this?
And it will happen again and again since the DNC and DGA fund fringe GOP candidates as an ongoing tactic. But that unhappy fact will take a few more election cycles before the non-political folk catch on to the grift.
The new existence of this fringe took everyone left of Lindsey Graham by surprise in 2016. It’s not conspiracies all the way down. These people exist and the sooner we realize the center is not where we imagined it was the sooner we can get on with governing and protecting the whole country and not just the little blue parts that like us.
Uh, no dude, im talking about an existing tactic in use by the Democratic party, which you can find see opeds on up in like Newsweek n shit. Im not deep webbin dawg, What are you on?
Hell, a Democrat published a book a few years ago about how she did exactly that to win an election. And then she lost to that same nutjob in the very next election!
I don’t disagree with that, all I’m saying is almost 50% of America really is ready to risk tearing it all down and the truth is only a small number of them would be willing to vote Democrat under any circumstances. For both Democrats and center Republicans, divide and conquer seems the only available strategy. A true third party is the hope of many, but I don’t think they could be left of Biden, and the space on the right is a madhouse. They’d have to basically fall from space in a shower of glory to cut through the mud at this point
50% of America really is ready to risk tearing it all down
A true third party is the hope of many
I don’t often say this, (cuz what’s the point?) but i’m one of those who has given up on voting Dem. I voted for joe, knowing i hated him in '20. My vote was my parting gift to the party after being a donating member for ~20 years.
I don’t advocate for others to give up, but after many years of their tomfoolery and lies, the only path forward is to find that third party and start voting for it. Is it a great plan?
No. It’s not even an ok plan. but its the one I’m rolling with, cuz why would i vote for a party who would rather entreat and berate than earn? I cannot tell you how much rage i feel inside at their sounding the alarm when i watched them start the fire
I don’t blame you. I agree neither party really wants the things I think we desperately need.
Not only that but what is Biden going to do for climate in the next 4 years? Like really… He sucks
He’s still the best option as sad as that is
Hah
Revolution is the best option.
Good luck with that.
Yes, if you want to make sure a ton of vulnerable people suffer and then we risk ending up with fascists in charge anyway.
They’re already in charge. We’ve got two capitalist parties. Republicans back fascists domestically. Democrats back fascists internationally. The people who own the country won’t allow us to vote away their power, we need to start talking about effective activism.
Ok well this rage comic has really opened my eyes.
Cool, I’m sure the government’s predator drones are just itching for some action.
You don’t vote for a revolution
Wow really
Banning gas cars and giving more funds for green energy. Meanwhile orange man wants to increase the usage of fossil fuels. Could be more but could also be less.
