• BlitzFitz @lemmy.world
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    We’re about to learn if the FDA has more authority over drugs than our judicial system.

    If the US goes the route of judges having more say over drugs than the FDA, we consumers won’t be able to trust what is on the market. Personal bias and beliefs will be the reason we will have certain drugs or not vs their actual scientific and medical merit.

    We’ll be screwed and trust in drugs will fall even lower

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      Yes, just look at Ken Paxton telling medical professionals they aren’t qualified and making medical decisions himself instead

  • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldOP
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    100% they ban it and all drugs related to abortion. This isn’t a court of law, it’s a Ecclesiastical Court of religious extremists that does not recognize the rule of law.

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      No.

      No, no, no, no, no. A thousand times, FUCKING NO.

      There is absolutely no appetite for any kind of justice system reforms. None of these people are going to be removed from their seat by Congress, and they do not have to worry about the ire of voters. People can stomp their feet all the want, but the reality is that they will face no repercussions for a bad ruling. While I agree with you in principle, the last thing we want is to dare this court to do something knowing full well that they will suffer no consequences if they decide to say “challenge accepted.”

      This case petrifies me because there is a non-zero chance that they go back to their “Nuke it and everything remotely close to it” approach to rulings, leading to anything from a total ban on abortion meds to a total ban on abortion. Or at the very least, giving the anti-abortion crowd even more ammunition to use in support of a nationwide ban.

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        I think what the person you’re replying to may be implying is that the people may respond with means other than the law.

        • Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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          The fact that we haven’t yet makes me feel like a trump dictatorship is inevitable.

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          Can you imagine how much protesting we’d have if we were French? I worry Americans will just take anything the government tells us to, as long as we get to keep guns.

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        They’re never going to be able to enforce it and I don’t think its ever going to be non-trivial to link the abortion pill as the nexus to the body’s natural abillity to abort the fetus itself absent any input from the pregnant-ee

        Itsno different than one of their Quatarded natural homeopathic remedies

        Edit: i almost welcome it because then the DEA has to start enforcing it and EVERYONE (not just the lowly but also the comfortable and professional) has to experience directly retarted drug policy for themselves. The DEA should not exist, Jefferson rolls in his grave daily absent his beloved opium poppies

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          See, that’s part of what we’re afraid of, and indeed has already happened. Women who simply miscarried could be assumed to have purposely aborted somehow.

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            I can’t see that as truly feasible but you’re very correct to bring it up as the next oncoming show of depravity

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              It’s already happening. There are calls on the right to prosecute women who miscarry, charging them with manslaughter.

              At least one woman, Brittany Watts, is already under arrest. She miscarried into her toilet and flushed. She was arrested and her toilet taken apart to get “evidence.” She’s charged with attempted abuse of a corpse.

              If the abortion bans are upheld, the next step is banning miscarriages. Of course, this happens to women naturally - without any action on their part. Still, women will be subjected to criminal investigations to see what they did to “cause” the miscarriage (“you took one sip of wine! Guilty!”), what they did after the miscarriage (“you miscarried at 15 weeks and didn’t bury the body in a coffin in a cemetery! Guilty!”), or anything else. Obviously, the rich and powerful will be spared from this scrutiny, but the middle class and poor women? They’ll be harassed. Especially if they happen to not be white. (“Double Guilty!!!”)

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                I think what you said about the burial and coffin(casket?) is important too, that’s a logical next step in forcing Christianity on people who don’t practice it. You will bury your dead, and a pastor will be there or you’ll pay dearly- type vibe.

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                These women need to stop voting for their fave family-values friendly politicians and start growing a pair. I’m tired of hearing about women who only start complaining when it starts affecting them. This selfishnesss needs to be aborted like 100 years ago

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                  start growing a pair

                  I’m afraid the folks on the right won’t allow that, either. No hormones for you!

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      It’s possible we haven’t done this because we have a set of morals. Or, more likely the fact that someone, many someones in fact would need to give up something up in order for the rest to course correct into the world we think we want. Are you willing to give up your life so that others will live a better one? Are you willing to take the life of another in order for this happen? Are you really? Even if you live, there will always be a stigma on you for what you have done.

      This is the problem with our political division and radicalization. The other side is willing to die for what they think needs to be done. And worst, they will do this because they have been brainwashed into thinking their sacrifice is in the name of their god and will be rewarded in the afterlife. And if they win, they will be heroes. So for right now, people of power are being elected who also hold a belief that their god is the right god and what they think he says, goes.

      The reality of it is, we hope the democratic process will save us. That those that fight against the obvious choice for humanity in the name of god, die a natural death. All because we’re high on morals and the value of human life, and also just too afraid to die for a cause even we don’t think is worth it.

      There you have it, the true cost of late term abortion. One side will defend the ways that will forever destroy humans as we want it and the other won’t step up to correct it because we are too selfish and likely too afraid to die.

  • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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    What’s the standing here? I mean, is it possible for the Supreme Court to rule only Congress can approve a drug? God forbid we get another pandemic soon. This Congress would rather millions die than for people to make a decision about their own health care.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The nine justices rejected a separate appeal from abortion opponents who challenged the Food and Drug Administration’s initial approval of mifepristone as safe and effective in 2000.

    Abortion opponents filed their challenge to mifepristone the following November and initially won a sweeping ruling six months later revoking the drug’s approval entirely.

    “The modest decision below merely restores the common-sense safeguards under which millions of women have taken chemical abortion drugs,” wrote lawyers for the Alliance Defending Freedom, which describes itself as a Christian law firm.

    U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, an appointee of President Donald Trump in Texas, initially revoked FDA approval of mifepristone.

    But Judges Andrew Oldham and Kurt Engelhardt said most of the rest of Kacsmaryk’s ruling could take effect while the case winds through federal courts.

    Besides reducing the time during which the drug can be taken and halting distribution through the mail, patients who are seeking medication abortions would have had to make three in-person visits with a doctor.


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