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    10 months ago

    My kids won’t have this problem. Given the circumstances that have been obvious for 40-50 years I made the best and most responsible parenting decision possible. I didn’t have any.

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      Friends/acquaintances with young children always want to know why my wife and I chose not to have kids. I get very dirty looks when my first answer is “there are already too damn many people in the world as it is”

      The economists are the worst. “Don’t you know, we need children to fund your retirement! Economies need a growing population!”

      Yeah, fuck off. That’s not sustainable and you know it. We’re going to need to figure out how to make shrinking populations work.

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      10 months ago

      But now your responsible, climate-concerned genes have been removed from the gene-pool.

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      People living near the equator are still having kinds, and those families will need to move somewhere when things get too bad there. They will come and replace the family you didn’t have when it comes time for the great food wars.

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    They will grow up but it will be a much different world. Back in the 70s, Rachel Carson posited that it was probably already too late to turn back the effects of air pollution and poisoning of our oceans, and she was right. Instead of fixing problems, oil and gas companies are doubling down on fossil fuel extraction. Kids will grow up to have all kinds of respiratory illnesses and also facing a world that is melting around them.

    Most years we’re in below 20 degree snowy weather. Today it’s 50 degrees here, it’s Dec 18th and we’ve only seen snow in our mountains, which is very rare for us in Utah. Not that I’m complaining about the heat -I love warmer weather, and I absolutely detest the sight of snow in any way, shape or form. But it is weird that we’re not even going to have snow on the ground this Christmas (we might get some rain this week).

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      Back in the 70s, Rachel Carson posited that it was probably already too late to turn back the effects of air pollution and poisoning of our oceans,

      I feel ya, but try not to give in to that feeling, as it’s also the last step in the oil companie’s PR playbook; when it’s finally coming knowledge, to say "well, yes it was our fault but it’s too late to do anything about it "

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        Well it’s not a very positive outlook, but I’ve heard it from scientists more than from big oil and gas (that it’s too late to turn back these effects). I"m not saying we can’t try to mitigate these things going forward, maybe we can make huge changes by taking small steps toward cleaner energy sources.

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      I’m up in Mammoth right now and it is raining, absolutely wild for this time of year. I didn’t even bother snowboarding this trip because the slopes are more conducive to ice-skating. Caught of on a lot of sleep though, so that was nice.

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        Mammoth, that’s gotta pretty nice right now (if you don’t mind no snow). Not as cold as it usually is for this time of year. I want to go there soon, hopefully this coming summer, because it’s usually nicer up there.

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          Yeah i’ll say it’s been pretty nice weather despite the crap conditions. As of now it’s trying to turn from rain to snow, of course as we’re about to head home lol

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      10 months ago

      Temperature translation for non-Americans:

      70°F ≈ 21.1°C
      50°F = 10°C
      20°F ≈ -6.7°C

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    10 months ago

    I live near the arctic circle… it’s usually -40° right now… it’s actually +5°C today.

    T-shirt weather in late December… wtf humanity

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      I’m not as far north as you, but we’re also having a super mild stint. Normally have a couple feet of snow right now but it’s rained for 3 days. Last December we had the same thing. Year before that we had about 2-3 feet of snow and highs of -10°C.

      It’s gotten to the point where I can’t even rely on weather reporting to give me current weather. One day a couple weeks ago it’s -20 but the Weather Network said it was 0… That was rude. I’m thinking of setting up my own weather station.

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        10 months ago

        I find it funny that you decided to include in your comment that he’s retired, it doesn’t add anything.

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      I live close to the Arctic Circle as well and it’s +2 currently. Two weeks ago it snowed like a meter in 2 days. I’ve seen enough snow for this winter.

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    Old person, pointless, war-story time!

    Where I live, fall and winter weather is like this and always has been my entire life. Daytime highs in the 70F (21C) range in fall and winter is definitely above average, but far from abnormal and that’s not even particularly extreme for this time of year. It’s a part of the northern hemisphere where it’s not even rare to have over night lows of 18F (-8C), and within a day or two it’ll be 72F (22C). We even joke about it “Ha ha ha. Don’t like the weather? Just wait a day. Ha ha ha.”

    So, full disclosure: Climate change is real. If we don’t get our shit together, the (human) world is probably going to end (in disaster). But, being honest, if it’s 70F for a few days in November, December, January, February, or March it’s not exactly a sign that the end is near.

    Anyway, on a site that shall not be named, there was a post that showed up on the front page that was from a city I used to live in, and which was geographically close to where I spent most of my childhood. It was an image gallery of a bunch of random plants in flower, during a week of slightly warmer than average weather in December or January, and it was lamenting something along the lines of “People keep saying these flowers are pretty but all I see is a harbinger of the apocalypse.” Highly upvoted and lots of affirmative comments.

    Don’t get me wrong. Climate change is coming, climate change is here. It’s a catastrophe and it’s not a thing I deny exists.

    But, the flowers in their photos were things that are cool season bloomers which start blooming in October/November in my area and basically are in bloom as long as conditions aren’t extremely cold or extremely hot. Most of them were invasive species (like Dandelions and various nettles that bloom year round as long as it’s not too hot or too cold). There was only one thing in their post that would have been a bit “holy shit”, but it was something that was completely unbelievable, likely misidentified, and they refused to provide further evidence on.

    I called it out. Politely, but with conviction. And, let’s just say, it was not well received.

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    70 degrees in Dezember around here would kill most people, since it’s only 30 degrees below the boiling point of water.

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    We have had almost no snow in BC this year. Northern BC is in severe drought. There isn’t even enough water to fill the recently completed highly controversial site C dam.

    Basically that means we are going to have the worst fire season we’ve ever seen, sorry america but the smoke alone will ruin your summer too

    Even fucking Haida Gwaii is seeing some mild level of drought right now. This shit ain’t right

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      sorry america but the smoke alone will ruin your summer too

      Gosh dang it! In 2020 the fires turned our skies dark red, and there was ash falling from the sky. I don’t want to relive that. I couldn’t go outside for longer than about 2 minutes without getting a headache.

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      You should look at the winter that recently ended in the southern hemisphere - record ice shelf losses during winter, record high temps in Rio and other cities. In winter.

      And it’s just getting more and more brutal.

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      Temperature translation for non-Americans:

      70°F ≈ 21.1°C
      50°F = 10°C
      20°F ≈ -6.7°C

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      It’s slightly below freezing and snowing here in West-Central Indiana. We haven’t been above the 50s yet this Dember.

      Now admittedly, the 50s in December is not the same as when I was a kid and we are definitely doing great damage to the Earth’s climate and biosphere, but saying kids aren’t going to grow up because of it is a bit hyperbolic.

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        Of course they are going to grow up. 20 years are nothing. Those are issues that will only start to get serious after that time. Which is exactly why so little is happening now.

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          Two years ago, a “once in a hundred years” wind storm downed trees that had been around for decades. Many of them fell on houses, garages, etc. Last year, the once in a hundred years wind storm took down even more. We haven’t had the every hundred year storm this year yet but I am expecting it. The issues are serious.

          On a positive note, more of us are adding our voices and resources to combat the profiteers. Join us if you can.

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        That’s why I prefer rain. I can look outside and say, “oh look at the rain I have to shovel off my sidewalk.” (Sarcastically of course…)

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      Me I’d rather have rain than snow any day. My dream is to move somewhere where, when people see the snow scraper on my dashboard, they’ll point and say “What’s that??”

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          If that’s true - then I want to live where you are. A snow scraper is a little flimsy hand-held plastic shovel kind of thing that is supposed to be used to remove ice and snow from your windshield and other car windows. They’re usually pretty flimsy and break easily.
          Not very effective, but we usually have one or two in our car just in case we might need it.

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        I moved from a cold climate to a hot climate. Instead of not wanting to do anything outside in the winter due to temps being in the 10f-20f range, I don’t want to do anything outside in the summers due to temperatures being in the 100f-110f range. You can always add layers of clothing, but there’s only so many layers you can remove.

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          Well I get the ‘best’ of both worlds here in Utah. Usually we have about 10-20 f weather in the winter, then 100 to 110 days in the summer. And you’re right, they have the same effect of keeping me indoors most of the time. I may be moving (not by my own choice) to Florida so - now I can deal with the heat AND oppressive humidity at the same time. Hooray.

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          It’s a bit weird having 50 degree weather here in Salt Lake this time of year. Last year at this time, we had 20 degree temps and snow all over the place. This year we’re having to make snow for the skiers up in the mountains. It’s fine with me, because I’d be happy if it was 80 degrees year round - but of course everything would dry up including our economy.