On Reddit I just read without logging in. It was nice. I’m trying to help build communities on Lemmy, so I’m posting and commenting.
Since doing that, I’ve been told I’m enjoying my hobby wrong, that my friends enjoy their hobby wrong, the links I researched for a comment thread are wrong (without references to correct info), and that I’m probably wrong about how I want to live.
I know I should have thicker skin, but the slow drip of unfriendliness is alienating.
Have you had positive experiences too, or are they primarily negative?
I’ve had positive experiences, mostly in the shit-posting and meme communities.
Maybe it’s just me, but the negative experiences are way more memorable than the positive ones.
They always are.
People need to adhere to “if you have nothing nice to say, it’s better to say nothing at all” if we want Lenny to succeed.
I wish I was better at my hobbies (I plan to invest more in them next year) so I could submit more content and help get communities rolling. I see you have posted a fair few things which I appreciate.
Yeah, I definitely feel that way. Positive experiences just feel ambient, and negative experiences feel like distinct events.
Still, I have the sense that Lemmy is mostly positive, even though there are jerks. I have alot of comments with, like… 7 upvotes and 1 downvote, and of course the downvote sticks out in my mind… But then again, way more people were supportive than negative, and that’s kinda cool.
Tell them to fuck off. This is the internet. Don’t let people do this to you.
That’s just how “real” fans are.
There’s nothing real about them though, except their malice.
I am the kind of guy who will make fun of you for watching and enjoying the first few seasons of Disco and Picard because I think they suck, but I’ve stopped trying to tell people how to enjoy their media. The world is already a miserable enough place without trying to make people feel bad about their content watching habits.
If you come to !Risa@startrek.website you can join us in lampooning then, which makes them much more fun to watch.
Risa is a great community. I don’t post there, but I enjoy the memes.
The world is already a miserable enough place without trying to make people feel bad about their content watching habits.
Exactly this.
I am the kind of guy who will make fun of you for watching and enjoying the first few seasons of Disco and Picard because I think they suck
If someone can be friendly while they’re joking around like that, I’m all for it. But it’s hard to get that subtlety into a comment.
There’s kind of two modes with that. If you’re in a bad mood it’s easy to just become a bulldozer of anger and malice and just shit on every single aspect of the first seasons. Otherwise, it’s just a discussion where we disagree on what things we enjoy.
I find it easier to have a simple discussion here on Lemmy. On reddit you’re about 50/50 going to encounter somebody angry and malicious, but here it’s probably more like 70/30 towards a good conversation.
At the same time, Picard mostly sucked… But it was good enough for me to watch through
I feel like half the problem is that not all of us are on the same page. If I say “I think this sucked”, I want to talk about it, and if anything I hope someone will recontextualize it for me and make it more enjoyable.
I want to hash it out, because anyone who does that in good faith sharpens their own opinion. Maybe I’m wrong and they convince me to give it a second chance, maybe I’m wrong and realize I only liked it for nostalgia. Or maybe we realize our opinions differ, and narrow down the reason why
I don’t think I’d like Picard aside from nostalgia…I don’t think it was fun or artistically valuable, but I didn’t stop watching. I don’t think it’s good-If you like it, I’m not going to say you’re wrong, but I will argue no one should watch it if they don’t love Patrick Stuart already. Not even TNG, the rest of the crew was pretty hollow cameos - his character was badly written, but I watched it through because it was more of his character
I think you’re using lemmy wrong if you’re encountering that much resistance. /s
But seriously what is this hobby that’s so dividing? Are you looking through telescopes backwards or something?
It’s D&D. A game played with friends who have their own likes and dislikes. But sometimes they like the wrong thing.
Haha is this the classic minmaxer vs storyteller divide? Or maybe the serious campaign is being ruined by murderhobos?
There’s got to be infinite ways to enjoy d&d and so infinite disagreements to be had.
I have a motorcycle. It’s a Harley-Davidson. Immediately, everyone is picturing a large and unpleasant looking bearded man riding a huge, noisy, vibrating, chrome bedazzled air cooled motorcycle without a helmet from one bar to the next.
My harley makes about as much noise as a Toyota Camry. I wear full protective gear when riding it, including a bright and attention-getting helmet. It doesn’t get ridden to bars, because drinking interferes with my motorcycle addiction.
The large and unpleasant looking bearded man part is accurate, though.
I never understood the " I’m so badass I’m going to ride without the only thing that can prevent my skull from cracking like an egg" I guess live fast die young, but in the event you don’t die the only way we will know where your mouth is, it will be following the feeding tube.
Anyways safe rides dude.
It has been my long-standing belief that a motorcycle helmet can prevent an accident. I’ve had too many things hit my visor while riding. Imagine taking a june bug in the eye with nothing but a set of oakleys for protection.
The bug in the eye is a classic, I just wanted to feel the air on my face.
I mean, some dudes won’t use environmentally friendly grocery bags because they’re afraid to appear “gay”. Some men’s masculinity is oh so fragile. Like a human skull in a motorcycle accident perhaps.
Guys, is it gay to avoid filling your trash can with a bunch of plastic bags?
This is precisely why I don’t give a shit about “weekly episode discussions” and refuse to watch any show until it’s available in its entirety.
I prefer watching at a trickle, but only discuss it face to face. People are generally much more civil when in striking distance
That’s how I’ve been consuming the marvel TV shows, it’s so much nicer to be able to binge the series.
plus the dreaded mid-plot ax
I like some manga and anime, but I usually come away with an uncomfortable feeling when I interact with passionate fans of manga or anime. To me, the vast majority is crap, but there are some good gems here and there. Hardcore fans though are all about the most boring or weird shit, and even have a slightly off sense of humor. I’m sure I’d be seen as some filthy casual who just follows the mainstream shit, like how people outside of RPGs only see DnD as the entirety of the role-playing hobby. It’s probably always going to happen between casuals and passionate fans of any topic.
Looking at VTuber fandom out there. Two weeks ago, a famous female VTuber called Ironmouse (who, BTW, has an immune disease and cannot leave her house) won an award, and you know what the fans of other candidates did? They sent her death threats.
Oh boy 😬
VTuber fandom has the extreme opposites. By just being in the Hololive community I’ve seen people being absolute gems and creating content that everyone loves (Kay Yu, Kanauru, 2ManySnacks)… and on the other side people gatekeeping everything, way too parasocial fans, thirst everywhere and extreme tribalism.
If you stop at top comments/posts it’s usually a great experience, you just have to learn to stop scrolling when the toxicity begins.
I only saw hate from people outside the vtuber community, specially on tiktok since people over there already went through a hate wave of vtubers after a popular male one made a concert without having a 3D model. Several people going “who?” afther she won in the live comments.
Firefly. Only because I’ve never met anyone that wasn’t someone I had to introduce to it. Let alone the comics, novels, board/card games, etc.
But for real, if I ever got anyone enough of a base around me becoming such fans as I; I would also happen to have enough of the old school Mage:tAs books to equate Technocracy with the Alliance and equate the Trads to Pirates.
It exists but is dormant. I’ve enjoyed the TV show and movie, but haven’t consumed any other content. Anything you would recommend?
Oh man, I really like One Punch Man, and I’ve always been a fan of the whole “poking fun at anime tropes thing”, but if you spend 30 mins on the subreddit for that subject you find a lot of people that don’t really see that the “child that’s actually much older than they look” thing isn’t a justifiable excuse for filling your sub with subjective images of a child.
At a certain point, it basically became trolling to raise that these people needed their hard drives checked by law enforcement professionals, and less to do with the thing that I actually enjoyed.
Oh yeah. I did not hang out in Star Trek groups for many years despite being a fan - I didn’t near to hear a million times why Enterprise sucked or Discovery sucks or whatever. I enjoyed both and don’t need to listen to someone screeching about continuity errors or whatever in a fictional TV show.
And they can’t help themselves, more than once I’ve made a comment like this only to have someone reply, “Well, Discovery sucks because blah blah blah!”, and it’s like, “THANKS FOR DEMONSTRATING THE POINT I WAS MAKING. YOU’RE THE PROBLEM. YOU.”
No one hates Star Trek more than Star Trek fans.
I joined a group on facebook that is called “Wholesomeposting” and that kind of shit is not allowed. It’s much nicer that way. The noise level on Lemmy hasn’t been too bad, fortunately…so far.
Easiest way to start hating your new hobby is visiting it’s subreddit.
It’s obvious for video games because you can assume anyone that wants to be active on a specific game sub is probably a try hard that talks about the meta, or max DPS builds, or other annoying stuff. But then you visit something like the carbon steel pan subreddit, or grilled cheese, and you’re continually assaulted with this idea that there are only specific pans and oils that are correct, or that your grilled cheese isn’t actually a grilled cheese because it was cooked too close to an open pack of salami.
Last time this happened to me was when I said I liked an experimental musician’s youtube channel cause he has a lot of content about his process etc. Got reamed in the comments by a salty user cause the musician once featured a product in a video made by a brand that it’s popular to hate, yet used by many musicians. One of the most reddit things ever.
The same subreddit heavily discouraged me, in classic reddit style, from getting a product once. I did anyway following my intuition. Then a year later it became the most recommended product for that purpose.
Pet communities are horrible for this
Cute cat sneezes
Top comment: “This cat is gonna die Tomorrow from feline airborn disease, his left eye twitched 2.3ms longer than the norm which means…”
I’ve had the opposite experience. But then again I don’t really watch media without interacting and falling in love with the fandom first.
I wouldn’t have watched Star Trek without Trekkies being awesome.
The Metal Gear Solid fanbase is probably the only respectful and wholesome gaming fanbase I have seen. While most male gamers are drooling and oogling their eyes on any sexualised female characters, they question and reject the scantily clad female character in Metal Gear Solid V and always meme about this woman being fully clothed.
Keep classy MGS fans!
Star Wars fans spending days dissecting the intricacies of a fantasy space opera is highly amusing.
EC Henry is my favorite in that regard, analyzing and making fan lore on ships that are a couple of pixels in the side of the frame for one shot.
“No one should have to meet their hero.”, and even less so: fellow fans.
Think of the poor heroes that have to meet their fans.
Solution: nobody meets anyone. Done.
Aren’t you afraid you enjoy it for the wrong reasons?
yeahh lemme tell ya, I unironically like:
- Ace of Base
- OSX and IOS
- Bruce Willis
- Fallout 76
- Starfield
- Sardines
- the star wars prequels
- Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
- McDonald’s and taco bell
- Automatic transmissions
- The Vehicross and the Cybertruck (not musk though)
- PERL, then Ruby
I had to develop a tough candy coated shell decades ago to survive BBS’ and the internet lol. fuck the haters do what you like!
Hmmm, sardines…
The star wars prequels are my favorites. The original trilogy is also very fun, but not really to my tastes.
PERL, then Ruby
We may be mortal enemies!
Ruby was the first programming language I learned and it was such a great entry point into learning for me.
Now I mainly am using JS in some form (MERN Stack guy), but it did help me learn Python which I use for lots of scraping and even some IoT prog with MicroPython.
All of this just to say, Ruby is a fine language. I don’t know much about PERL though
Ruby is really cool, and it’s fun to write, I just find it difficult to follow because when I read Rails code there’s so much magic going on and the inheritance structure makes it hard to find things.
I relate to the philosophy of Python “explicit is better than implicit”, it’s my favourite language.
I’ve come around to liking JS, I like the ideas of its design despite the quirks.
Never lay your eyes on spring boot then.
/* This works because there's a bean with a specific name and a specific dependency that doesn't even share the same namespace. I don't know what it does, I think it's dark magic. Don't refactor any of this! */
I like the look of the cybertruck for sure. But I’m not a fan of how it is constructed, or Musk. Be sweet to see some better cars with similarly retro futuristic looks.
I also liked Valerian, but more for the world building than the main plot.
And what the fuck is wrong with Bruce Willis? 🤨
i also unironically like ios and mac and i feel your pain. the apple “community” online is probably the biggest example of people not understanding that you can criticize the shortcomings of a product you paid for
Here here.
I’ll be the first guy to in detail list all crappy things about macOS. But it’s my favourite OS, and I’m happy with it.
I don’t like the vapid criticisms that it’s a toy and can’t do anything from peine who’ve never tried it, and I agree with the criticisms that Apple charges way too much and is awful for gaming.
🤝 my twin
I wish the main cast of Valerian and Passengers were switched.
I like how varied this list is lol
