• andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    It’s a great hate-speech phrase to antagonize, and to call for something primal in people. Where did he lift it? Comparing your enemies to a disease is as old as public speeches. And is really a good showcase how the public there degraded, as they find it relateable. It’s really something tribal.

    Imagine me saying all trump voters are genetic failures or just untermesch. That they are a biological waste that needs to be dealt with. That they are traitors to their kind for the fact they still breath.

    You’d hurry up to downvote and call me names, rightfully, because there’s some set culture of not going that far into dark ages, to have a basic level of empathy. There are institutions, the people who’d show you that you can’t call for erasing ginger women for they are totally witches. It calls for something animal, an existiential threat, a fight or flight response, and it’s a very worrying thing.

    It taps exactly in a place in your psyche, where you throw a spear at anything coming close. And it doesn’t ends there. People nodding to that now would react more extreme in other more casual situations.

    It’s a pandemic of violence. This dehumanization doesn’t end, it grows onto other groups one dislikes, and just one argument then can end in a gunfight. And it would take so much time to heal.

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      10 months ago

      To add:

      We in Russia suffer the same fait. Although my group of people mostly denounce that ridiculous war and cringe at those celebrating it, I notice, how casual hate and insecurity about your surroundings slip everywhere. Anecdotal case: I remember like 3 cases of bus drivers driving away from people running to them at the bus stop in years, and now I have at least one each month when this late person literally knocks at the door when it drives out, I had one today. One another school shooting case making news. One another case of someone pulling a gun onto random persons.

      The societal psyche is deeply harmed by any public hate-speech. It affects everyone, and it affects me when I start to cross the road and a SUV running on red light nearly avoids me, once again, or that I’m more insecure of persons randomly asking me for a lighter, or middle-eastern men just walking around although I’m the one to get banned for despising racism locally. Even though I don’t subscribe to it, I take the fruits of that. These deep fears that we should’ve learned to avoid, especially of all kinds of ‘other ones’, they thrive in that climate. Even if not by agitation itself, but by it’s subproducts, like if you hear about a MAGA masshooter, you’d then be more likely to have a gun yourself, and to react agressively to a likely intruder. It escalates, it makes everyone hostile, and brings so much deaths one may want to vomit.

      There should be measures in place to de-secalate it on the state level. I doubt my own state would want that, since it’s a fuel for conscription and they don’t care about what can happen after them (“let there be fire after we quit” is a national meme), but would yours do that? I still have a ghostly hope to immigrate, so I’m kinda involved in not exchanging one burning bag of shit for another. And having the most mil and gun-spending country being overtaken by ghouls like trump makes it unsafe everywhere. This opportunist can start a WW3 if it’d save him a comfy place im the office. With the great force, comes the dead uncle Ben, and it shouldn’t be like that.

      And what my ranting ass wanted to say: americans have a vision of themselves in regular mass shootings, have an example of russia as a promise, and have a tool to make it slightly better by putting the ballot in the box. Why won’t they? You can see 'murican sense off selfe-respect on Reddit. Why won’t they selfrespect themselves enough to eradicate hate speech in the prime time to be sure their kids won’t be shot by a random broken kid. Having a post-perenatal abortion by the AR at eleven years feels more untimely than one done at the seventh week, that’s what I say.

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    It’s crazy the modern GOP is so beholden to a terrorist minority in their ranks that those people are the ones calling the shots in both the electorate and in congress.

    They are the party that has branded themselves tough on crime and usually the loudest about not negotiating with terrorists, but when they end up with terrorists in their own ranks they fully capitulate, roll over, goose step, bark like a dog, fall in line and cede complete control to the whims of their worst and most reactive members. A full display of weakness and lack of principle for everyone to see, yet they still take themselves with grave sincerity. If Monty Python had done it, it would have been too over the top, just facetious, but here we are.

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      There was a time when you could make this argument.

      In 2024, these are nazis voting for nazis who are running on nazi platforms using nazi language.

      There is no compassion to be had for nazis. There is no “durr they say the same about you durr.” a vote for Trump is a vote for somebody whose key rally talking point is now that I must be eliminated for disagreeing with him. I never said that about them - and I still don’t - but I AM aware that they are voting for the elimination of those they disagree with and will feel no remorse for defending myself against those who wish to eliminate me. It is NOT extremist or “radical” to expect or prepare for the people who can’t shut up about killing me to try to kill me.

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    I guess dog whistles are a thing of the past? People can just go around saying whatever they want and not have to worry about being shamed for being openly racist. Like internet comment sections have spilled out into real life.

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    Republicans are nazis. Republicans are nazis who run on nazi platforms using nazi language.

    There is no hiding behind policy for Republican voters in 2024. If you vote Republican you are knowingly and willingly voting nazi. If you vote Republican “against Biden,” you are knowingly and willingly voting nazi. If you vote for their “fiscal policy,” you’re voting nazi.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Forty-two percent of likely Iowa Republican caucusgoers said that former President Trump’s recent remarks about immigrants “poisoning the blood” of the country makes them more likely to support him, according to a new poll.

    The Des Moines Register/NBC News/Mediacom poll asked likely Republican caucusgoers about statements made by the president, including Trump’s recent claim that migrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.” The remarks have been condemned by various figures on both sides of the political aisle and resulted in comparisons between the former president and Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.

    Twenty-eight percent of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers said Trump’s “poisoning the blood” comments made them less likely to support him in the caucuses.

    The poll, conducted between Dec. 2 and 7, features responses from 502 likely Republican Iowa caucusgoers and has a maximum margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.

    The former president has pushed back against the comparisons to Hitler, who wrote in “Mein Kampf” that German blood was being poisoned by Jews.

    At a rally in Iowa on Tuesday, Trump mirrored his recent “poisoning the blood” comments and tried to distance himself from Hitler all within a period of a few sentences.


    The original article contains 302 words, the summary contains 198 words. Saved 34%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      These fuckers are all 3rd and 4th gen immigrants. Unless that 42% consists soley of First Nation people.

      Are we sure this isn’t an Onion article.

      Although I’m in UK, we have to follow what’s going on over the pond because the idiots here follow suit. That’s why we have the shower of shit in government now. Some of them are children of immigrants making laws that would have stopped their parents coming here!

      We are all immigrants if we go back a few generations.