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- cross-posted to:
- fuckcars@lemmy.world
- microblogmemes@lemmy.world
They probably assumed this is like a theme park or something and not an actual city that people actually live in year round. Cities having nice, people friendly places away from cars? Who’s ever heard of that?
There’s a Christmas market about half that size in Denver. I’ve never been puzzled about how people get there.
No one is puzzled. This was a case of someone casually scrolling and commenting without critical thought. Which, let’s be honest, we are all guilty of that and the other guy taking the opportunity to dunk with an AmEriCa Am I rIgHt???
Saying “I want to know how they deal with parking”, assuming they have vast parking garages and a shrug emoji is what I interpreted as puzzled. If you’re not clear it’s a reference to access to public transportation.
I know. I was just saying that the American in the pic is only puzzled because they are mindlessly scrolling and posting on Twitter. When the time comes to go to an event like that they are also just as likely to take the train without much thought to it either
What terminal car brain does to a mf
There also are a lot of tourists coming to the Christmas markets, sometimes from quite far away.
Those people either completely take public transit (they’ll be drinking anyways, so public transit is easier to get back home) or go for the park + ride offers that pop up during that time. It works pretty well.
Americans when a city is made for people and not vehicles
Meanwhile, in China:
“Why can’t we have it both ways?”
Underground parking garages are very common over here. Most of the times these city squares are exactly that, a huge multi-level underground parking garage because these squares are always event spaces, and they are usually city-center so even when there isnt events, people have somewhere to park when just visiting the city. Yes, there will even be long lines of traffic waiting/hoping for a spot during event periods.
With that said, they do fill up, usually fast. So most events suggest finding public transportation. This just means people park further away and then take the bus/rail/etc the rest of the way. These Markets arent just for the locals, people travel from all over to come to them. So public transportation for long-distant travel, while totally possible, isnt always as practical (sometimes nor affordable or possible) for everyone. Plus, long distance trains do sell out. We just spent most of the season traveling all over Central Europe going to various markets.
This is /c/fuckcars not r/americabad.
Chicago has three Christkindlmarkets that look just like the above, all accessible by public transit. It’s okay to celebrate what we’re doing right.
This could be the Striezelmarkt in Dresden at the Altmarkt. look here
You could walk there from the Hauptbahnhof but there are a lot of public transit stations close by.There is a parking space right below it though.
It looks like the Christkindelmarkt in Nürnberg, no? If so, yeah completely walkable from the main train station, or from the subway right next to it.
the buildings seem to match to the one in Dresden: street-view
The problem is that I have to live next to those people for the other 11 months
Living in large groups is literally one of the defining traits of our species though.
Like, about a hundred people? Okay. As long as my house is far away.
Literal millions of them? No thank you.
I dont think OP realizes how disgustingly car-centric German culture is. They probably do, in fact, have parking garages
Am German, can confirm. Parking garages do indeed exist here. Germany is very car centric, but fortunately not as bad as the US. Our cities do also have mostly working public infrastructure that makes it possible for lots of people to get to the Christmas market and drink several mugs of mulled wine without the need for overly huge parking garages.
Last time I drank a bunch of mulled wine in Germany during Christmas, I went to the train station and found it was closed.
Its absurd that the trains dont run all night, especially on holidays where everyone is out drinking and trying to not drive or bike intoxicated
I agree, there’s definitely room for improvement.
It seems rare, that the whole train station was closed (probably not one of the bigger cities) and you must have stayed rather late, while christmas markets usually already open in the afternoon (or even earlier) and the sun sets early in their season, so there’s plenty of time to enjoy them while they are most beautiful (at night) and still make it home by train in a lot of places.
That being said, in more places than you’d expect, you won’t find convenient train connections after midnight, if at all. That makes using public transit almost useless for partying. I remember living in a somewhat rural area as a young partygoer and if I wanted to go to the city for partying, the choice was to either go home before the city folk even really started going, or keep partying until the clubs closed and then hang around with the punks at the railroad station to wait for the first train in the morning. Having a designated driver and going by car was the usual option.
While it’s nice to have, I don’t think it should be normal to expect train drivers to work all night, especially on holidays.
While its nice to take holdlidays, I dont think its reasonable to shutdown necessary public infrastructure on holidays. Imagine if the electricity and water systems also shutdown on holidays.
Anyway, humans aren’t needed to operate trains.
There is a parking garage right under that market. There is a large street right beside it as well. In a radius of 500m there are at least 3 other large parking garages.
these people have not walked anywhere in their life have they?
Where would we walk? Most places are not set up for that.
Some people go on walks around their neighborhood for the sake of walking. But unless you live in the right area of the right city you can’t just walk half a mile to get a muffin. The store is a 10 minute drive away.
our racist grandparents fled the cities and abolished sidewalks