• Th4tGuyII@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    I’m certainly not a snitch, but my respect only goes towards people who are stealing what they need rather than what they want - the former is surviving the struggle, the other is kleptomania

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      9 months ago

      Stealing Pasta and canned veggies = necessity.

      Stealing Nike TNs when you’re already wearing a pair = yeah fuck you.

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    9 months ago

    At Walmart, or at least the one I worked at, every single case and jar of baby formula was tagged with a security strip that sets off the alarms at the door, on the inside of the container to make it difficult to remove. Baby formula was the most stolen item in the store. It’s also one of the most expensive food items in the store.

    Coincidentally, I would also find empty packaging with the security strip still attached in the handicap bathroom that was far away from the front doors and the alarm sensors.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    stealing a loaf of bread? good

    stealing silver from a bishop? also good because he’ll also give you some silver candlesticks too

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    9 months ago

    I have no respect for people shoplifting non-essential items (like makeup, etc) but essential items like food is a different story.

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      9 months ago

      The world is burning down around us, and the only people with the power to make an actual difference are throwing gas on the fire. Why the fuck should I even notice somebody shoplifting? Save your disrespect for the real criminals of society.

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      9 months ago

      In my opinion it depends more on whom you are stealing from than what. Food is okay, anything else not absolutely required for immediate survival isn’t is a somewhat cruel and arbitrary position.

      Even a dirt poor person has more needs than just food sometimes, to stick with your example even a dirt poor woman or girl may want to feel pretty for a moment, and I feel that’s nothing bad either. Granted this is a slippery slope to outright lawlessness, but there certainly is a lot of room for valid needs that are less immediate than nourishment and shelter, but still important to people feeling human at all. Counts twice for people already in the extremely dehumanizing position of being poor.

      • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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        My policy has become: “If you see someone shoplifting, no you didn’t.” All businesses write a little bit of theft loss into their budgets. I don’t care what shoplifters take. It’s not my concern. Let the egg heads in accounting and the beef sticks in loss prevention figure it out. That’s what they’re paid to do. Not you.

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          Mines a bit different, but similar. “If you see someone shoplifting, no you didn’t” only applies to chain stores. Walmart? Fuck 'em. Target? Get all you can. Local boutique store downtown? The fuck is wrong with you, go steal from a corporation that deserves it.

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        9 months ago

        She may need it for an interview to improve her prospects too. As long as it’s from a big place like Walmart I see no harm in someone desperate doing it to improve their situation.

        The Walton family will be fine.

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          9 months ago

          They don’t get jobs as flight attendants. If you already work in an industry that mandates make up use, and you’re doing it tough, shoplifting make up seems like a smarter financial choice than getting fired over a lack of make up and having to find work in an entirely new industry.

          As someone who currently doesn’t even own a single article of make up (unless you count tinted zinc), yes, you can get by without it, but not everyone can, and loosing your job over other when you’re already struggling financially isn’t ideal.

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      9 months ago

      (legitimate question) why don’t people in need use food availability programs like food stamps instead of stealing for essentials?

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        9 months ago

        when you have children to feed and you’re hungry yourself - standing in line to fill in a form and wait an interderminate amount of time to be potentially denied something that comes with a huge amount of restrictions it’s just easier to steal.

        There is enough food and wealth to feed and home everyone. Theft is a service issue.

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        9 months ago

        Because if you make over $1400/month then you don’t get food stamps. That isn’t even rent where I live.

        The median STUDIO apartment costs $2100.

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    9 months ago

    Here people are stealing expensive cheese and meats to sell to pay for drugs

    I’m not particularly sympathetic towards that.

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      9 months ago

      The fuck? How/where do they sell them? Who in their right minds would buy cheese or meat from a sketchy source?

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        9 months ago

        They sell to people they know. And they’re still in their packaging and you know they’ve recently stolen it, so why not. Really cheap too

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          9 months ago

          Because I don’t know if they’ve been storing it at the appropriate temperature for it not to spoil?

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            If it’s stolen the same day then there’s no huge risk, if you prepare it soon after. With cheese even less risk. But of course there’s always some risk buying stolen shit from junkies.

            Often from what I know it goes like this: they owe money to someone, can’t pay it back because naturally all the money goes to drugs so instead they’ll steal shit for you. So you’d be sending them to steal specific expensive shit and would be waiting for it and know it’s stolen the same day and whatnot.

            Though it’s fucking idiotic to loan money to junkies in the first place but I guess this way you’ll recoup some of it at least.

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              I just don’t understand why you’d steal stuff that easily spoils in order to resell it when there’s durable goods that don’t need an uninterrupted cooling chain, I guess.

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        9 months ago

        Could use the benefit money for it. Which they do. Welfare benefits in Finland are top notch, but yeah there’s never enough money for (enough) drugs. So lot of them do crime, burglaries, stealing from stores, stealing bikes and whatnot to get more money for (more) drugs.

        It doesn’t make me very sympathetic to them stealing from a store though. It’s not like they’re stealing to not starve or something.

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          You’re not wrong.

          You probably are getting a few downvotes from people in places like the US, who are more sympathetic to food theft because we have ridiculously thin social systems here that don’t care about peoples’ struggles but are first in line to dish out punishment.

          If Finland’s welfare is that good, you’re probably right. Drugs are a cruel master and are never satisfied. :(

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            Yeah, it’s a situation where I feel for them being addicts and all, but with there being housing, access to rehab and all sorts of programs, food aid, ample benefits and so on, it’s harder to feel for them stealing to finance buying more drugs.