• phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    Sweet

    This only ignores a tiny issue with the CO2 capturing part (that is why we’re doing this, right?)

    The CO2 in our atmosphere is there because we took energy out of a system, with CO2 as a by product. If we want to convert that CO2 back again to carbon, plastics, you name it, we will have to put back that energy we took as well.

    We’ve been doing this CO2 dumping for a good two centuries now, and we’re still at it. The atmosphere has a huge amount of extra CO2 because of that, and if we want to air out all that CO2, well basically have to spent give-or-take the same amount of energy that we’ve been taking for the past two centuries.

    If, starting tomorrow, we magically use only solar, wind and nuclear, and we magically double our energy output, we would have to spend about 50% of our entire energy budget for the next century to pull out all the excess CO2 from the atmosphere. This is ignoring the storage problem (where to safely store it, stable, how, and conversion to anything that can be stored will require energy too) and ignoring things like energy conversion efficiency and losses that typically is around the 30% or so for most engines, meaning that in reality we might actually have to spend multiple centuries on this.

    No matter what we do, this is not a problem that anyone alive today will see fixed. This problem is humongous, if not humanity ending, and yet somehow most people think it’s something science will solve within the next few years.

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      8 months ago

      No matter what we do, this is not a problem that anyone alive today will see fixed.

      I’ll be fucked sideways with a three pronged dildo if I don’t do whatever I can to leave this place better than how it was left to me, no matter how small the outcome of my efforts may be.

      The mentality of “whoever comes next can deal with it” is what took us here.

      This problem is humongous, if not humanity ending, and yet somehow most people think it’s something science will solve within the next few years.

      If there is one thing we are good at is finding solutions for problems. Unfortunatelty, we often create new problems for ourselves, which is a nasty habit we should look into solving as well. Not doing anything, at all, is not what we are.

  • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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    8 months ago

    We can make coal from wood for centuries. The only thing we need to do is to grind it down and bury it. Even better we can make biogas and store it in empty gas deposits.

  • rbesfe@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    Good luck dealing with megatonnes of this powder if you ever want to make a small dent in global emissions. It’s one thing to capture it, but the sheer amount of carbon we put into the atmosphere is such that we wouldn’t be able to handle the amount of product that this process makes.

  • hperrin@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    This is cool, but plants are already a thing. This is just a new way to do something life has been doing for billions of years.