Biden is going to hand the 2024 election to Trump on a golden platter if he doesn’t change course, even though everyone who isn’t braindead knows Trump would be doing exactly the same.
The Israel situation won’t swing the vote. Most people support Israel blindly or don’t care enough to be knowledgeable.
A couple of recent polls asked “What is the most important issue to you?”.
About 30-35% said “the economy”. Only 1-2% said “Israel/Gaza”.
Why would anyone expect it to be much higher than that? People are selfish and that’s not entirely unreasonable when it comes to politics. It makes no sense for a foreign policy position to be the determining factor when deciding who to vote for, especially when we have so many problems here at home.
Lol the US has been supporting Saudi Arabia through their war on the Houthis for 3 consecutive administrations which killed checks notes 85.000 children alone
Some libs who just recently learned less than half about the conflict in Palestine and think it’s Kony 2.0 smh
85,000 over 16 years versus 20,000 in three months.
There’s a real big fucking difference
That’s 85.000 children starving over a 4 year period alone. 380.000 total civilian deaths over 8 years.
Did you see a lot of protests to call for a ceasefire? Do you feel their deaths are less worthy?
OK, so what do you need to do is take it over the last three consecutive administrations like you said.
That starts with Obama for eight years, trump for four and Biden 43 going on four.
Say what you mean and mean what you say.
Maybe you should lead with the real numbers instead of the fucking gotcha numbers.
Congratulations you got your got your moment that you specifically set up
This is great and all, but it doesn’t mean too much if Biden doesn’t actually care to correct course. There have been plenty of protests already showing the current policy is increasingly opposed by significant sections of the population, yet they’re only making the most token efforts at any sort of real change in their stance towards Israel. If tens of thousands of people turning out for protests on the matter don’t get it through the heads of Biden and other Democrats that this stance is untenable, I don’t see why we should expect he’ll suddenly start listening for a few staffers sending a stern letter.
In all likelihood, they’ll hold the line on this, then when Democrats lose the next elections, they’ll blame it on racists, antisemites, more leftist candidates spoiling their chances, or literally anything but doing some reflection and realizing some of their long-held positions are now deeply unpopular with a significant portion of their voter base.
Vote blue no matter who( even if they are actively aiding the suffering, killing, and destruction of innocent people, children and their homes)
So vote red?
I disagree with them even more
Here’s the annoying thing about our system: so what? If you stop supporting Biden, and trump gets re-elected, congrats, you now have an extreme Isreal supporter in office who would give nukes to Isreal. By being fed up with the current administration, you would have shot your own cause by withdrawing.
Israel already has nukes
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat
Deeper than the system, unfortunately. A supermajority of Americans are still extremely pro-Israel. Some for batshit insane religious reasons, others for reasons of ignorance. A few out of pure malice, one presumes.
Americans are pro-Israel because, for the past 75 years, we’ve been taught and told that all the Arabs and/or Muslims want to destroy Israel and we are the only country that can prevent that from happening.
For the majority of Americans, it is not religion or ignorance, it is simply political dogma.
America wasn’t particularly friendly towards Israel until the 70s, though.
And to be fair, much of the Arab world has wanted to destroy Israel.
We have little sway in that matter, though. Israel survived before we lent them assistance, and they were much worse off back then, and their enemies much more determined.
Good! The let’s stop selling them weapons, withdraw our carriers, and let them deal with the consequences of their actions on their own.
It is really fucking easy to do what you want, to be ho you want, with no repercussions when you have the worlds strongest military backing you.
The little fuckers wouldn’t have enough balls to do what they have been doing without our backing.
For fucks sake, they are so scared and cowardly that they are shooting innocent hostages, with their shirts off, hands up and a white flag in them.
Cutting off all military aid to Israel would definitely make us feel better for a minute, but I think your post accurately points out that what comes next is likely to be much worse. One genocide may turn into a different genocide as the regional powers decide it’s open season on Israel. Then once Israel is facing probable eradication, the US is faced with allowing the destruction of Israel (including Israelis that oppose the current actions of their state), or getting back into a conflict, now with many more regional forces, and possibly nation states involved.
I absolutely agree with you that the IDF’s actions are abhorrent and consistent with war crimes as I understand international agreement (which is only layman’s understanding), but Bibi appears to be playing chicken with the entire population of Israel, and Biden may have blinked after considering the consequences.
Those are the consequences of their actions, let the smart ones get out and the war hawks get what they paid for.
At minimum the US could be a shield and help. Bring food and medical supplies as well as lifting out critically injured. You would also think if the US military was in there Israel would not be so reckless.
