Whoa Switch games + non-Switch games = more games than Switch??
steam deck can play switch games?
ohhh okay so its the same as xbox series x can play ps2 games lol
Including *cough* switch games *cough*
Seeing as Deck games include Switch games it’s always had more
I only have a Switch and want a Steam Deck, I’m not gonna lie, emulation is one of the biggest selling points to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The SD had the Switch’s entire library the day it came out, no fucking shit it has thousands more games from the day it came out even ignoring that
How does a deck perform for Steam games though?
Edit - oh fuck me, I was sleepy - I meant Switch games.
Ok if you’re realistic. Low-medium and you’ll have an hour. Drop performance down for 2D games.
Source: I don’t have one yet.
People buy a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games. As good as the steam deck is (and I really do want one, but GabeN has decided that Switzerland does not exist), you ain’t going to be playing Splatoon on it.
Not everything has to be a contest. Let people like things that they like.
Maybe not Splatoon specifically, but switch-exclusive single-player games run comparably or better on switch emulators running on the deck
Steam exclusive content of games isn’t a good thing. Moreover, it’s only a limitation of current technology until better hardware and software are developed. The Switch 2 can be better than Steam deck.
Steam exclusive content
great, because nobody asked for that anyways.
The Switch 2 can be better than Steam deck.
and the Deck 2 will be better than the Switch 2. what’s your point?
Deck 2 won’t be better because just like last time people like you overhype it to science fiction. It’s not a PC that plays games, its a Linux based operating system that requires Proton. You people falsely believe Valve is promoting Linux. Hardware specs aren’t good enough and cheap Valve doesn’t want to pay more.
Nintendo has proven to create handheld devices before Valve was a company. Valve doesn’t care about gaming, Nintendo cares about their games.
but which platform has more shovelware to sift through? Using the Nintendo store feels like swimming through a literal shit hole that someone dumped a tiny bag of gemstones into.
The Steam Deck also costs significantly more
A used version of Doom for switch at gamestop is $33. Buying it new from nintendo is $40. Its on sale for playstation right now for $3. Three dollars. Regular price is $20 (also $20 on steam). Also the switch runs it at 720p at 30fps or less and literally any other system it was released on is capable of running it at 1080p at 60fps. Twice the performance, half the cost on other systems than switch. Thats Nintendo for you.
Does it though? The steam deck is still a new console and just got a price drop. The switch has been out for years so it should be cheaper. Also I’m pretty sure the switch costs the same amount when it was a new system
$300 vs $400 is a stretch for “significantly more” but even accepting that, the steamdeck outclasses the switch’s hardware specs.
Plus when you buy a switch, you have no games. Anybody buying a steamdeck presumably already has a library of games to play on it.
it’s more like $200 for the switch, since the deck without addons is more comparable to the switch lite
50% is already “significantly more”
100% definitely is
No it isn’t.
The switch lite is tiny with inputs that don’t work.
The switch is $250, the OLED is $300. I should’ve said $250, fair enough.
However it is absolutely ridiculous to say it’s a switch lite. Pretty much everybody now has a USB-C dongle, which the steam deck can use in most cases. It’s not like Nintendo where you need their proprietary dock. The only thing I can’t do is pop the controls off of the actual system. A switch lite can’t even be docked.
Most people also have one wireless video game controller, definitely a mouse and keyboard.
it’s really weird to me that you keep including “things people already have” as if they didn’t have to already buy those things with money in order to have them
Ok so now we need to list TV’s? Internet? Electricity? Jfc.
no because those things are very obviously common to both
Ok you need to pay $60/yr to play online with switch. Let’s factor that in real quick lol
And yes it is reasonable to assume anyone buying a steamdeck has a M+K
And non of the games on Steam are Nintendo games. Sure you’d could use an emulator but the average mainstream casual gamer can’t be bothered to learn how to do that. And Nintendo is a much better known brand than Steam with the casual crowd. Nintendo is not really competing with Steam. Smart phones, which most people already have and the games are free, are a much bigger threat to Nintendo than the Steam Deck.
It clearly underpins your opinion that Nintendo has been trying to enter the mobile market.
What do you mean ‘enter’? Nintendo created one of the first handheld gaming devices that ever existed, and they’ve been known for handheld devices all the way through their history.
@rainynight65 @noctisatrae never heard of the Atari Lynx, have you?
At this point, anyone with the tech knowledge to have purchased a steam deck can install and run emudeck in like 15 minutes. You just go over to desktop, download and install the single package, put roms in the correct folders, then run the program and everything is already sorted into collections with you can find in the game mode library.
Ok but hypothetically, where would someone go for switch roms?
Arrrr, but of course only from the switch games that you have legally purchased and dumped for archival reasons, you scallywag.
I install it for my friends and no, “most people” cannot do this because booting into desktop mode and using dolphin sounds easy but its not for folks who just want it to work easy like a switch. Desktop mode is for power users and most console/pc owners are not power users.
Lol, wut? “Steamdeck desktop mode is for power users” starting 2024 with a strong dumbest tech take, I’m going to have to look hard for this to get beat.
anyone with the tech knowledge
That rules out most of the people.
Nintendo has always had competition with superior hardware in the handheld department. The Sega Nomad, WonderSwan, and Playstation Vita were all good examples of that. Nintendo products being much cheaper are always what keeps them ahead with handheld consoles.
It doesn’t hurt that they also have a plethora of decent fist party franchises to put on their system. Other companies just get generic third party games that you can also play on PC
Lol much cheaper? A nintendo game from 25 years ago will be resold for $70 today. You can buy Doom on the switch for about $60 and it might catch 30fps you can buy the same game for playstation or xbox for like $15. Have you ever priced their used games for switch? They are laughably expensive. Just checked Doom on nintendos official website is $40 playstation has a sale on it right now for $4 regularly full price for $20. HALF of what Nintendo charges and the game runs probably twice as fast on any system that isnt the switch. Even a USED switch version of doom on gamestop is $33 lmao a USED VERSION. Nintendo sucks
I think she’s talking about the consoles themselves.
Yes and at $300 to $400 for a Deck and roughly the exact same price for a new switch Im saying that the cost is greater long term for Nintendo when you buy their overpriced games that dont even run at full fps. You essentially are paying the same price (maybe what like $100 less if you get the cheaper switch) for a tablet. If you were going to just buy both and set them on the shelf and never buy a game to play on them then maybe I would understand where you are coming from but you have to buy games to play on these or else why would uou buy one? Therefore the cost of the games should also be taken into account when considering the overall price of the system.
They were cheaper options at the time of their release. Nintendo games from the past have only increased in price because of the popularity of the brand that attracts collectors. You are correct about the long-term expenses being cheaper overall but the average person only looks at the price for the console itself and that is about as far as their long-term thinking goes. Fps does not matter as much to the more casual gamer that Nintendo attracts.
The perceived cheapness is what gives Nintendo the advantage.
Nintendo products always being much cheaper
Ehhhh define “much”
The biggest difference between then and now is that the switch was the first handheld that could reasonably play (some) full scale open world console games. Any handheld trying to compete before that effectively needed games specifically developed for it with limited scope. There wasn’t really the vibrant PC indie scene for easy ports to low spec hardware either, and the Switch was also the first to really court those.
These handheld PCs are pretty much the first time there’s competition with a big library to be a real alternative. Before now, it would have also taken partnering with studios to convince them to port games to your device.
The Switch has worse specs than most phones these days, literally a phone is better. And don’t get me started on the eShop, it’s so bad.
I bought a switch just to play with some simple games with my nephew. The last time i had anything to do with nintendo was the gamecube, and that was more of a joke purchase, but i still liked the quirkyness of it a lot.
It has some cool features, like the controllers are fun (fun, not good) but holy hell, the e-shop… Also i was kinda shocked that they want full price for mario kart, a game from 2014! And the dlc is absolutely predetory. I asked in a Nintendo sub about that and if that is normal for nintendo games, because i genuinely didn’t know. And i caught so much shit for that. People told me that the game is just worth that much becase all the maps and stuff. And the dlc is cheap enough and yada yada. I even felt bad because they all called me a troll who only wants to stirr some shit up.
The other day i was listening to the jimqisition podcast and she talked about marvel’s midnight suns and she absolutely loved the game, except that they put dlc costumes right next to your normal costumes to kinda trick you into buying pixel clothing, and that it’s so gross that she wouldn’t even recommend the game. Nintendo does exactly that, but in a game for children, but still they are somehow the wholesome vidio game company, with one of the most toxic fanboys i have ever seen. The console has trouble running disco Elysium for fucks sake. I absolutely regret giving them money, and that was right before other waaaaay better handheld consoles hit the market.
I have a Switch but have bought maybe 3 games for it tops. Where Steam has user reviews, a super simple refund policy, and frequent deep discounts, Nintendo’s purchasing experience is clearly lacking in a customer-friendly approach.
Anyone asking for recommendations for their next gaming device, it’s Steam Deck every time.
Yeah. Nintendo’s lack of refund policies is why I made the switch to SteamDeck.
And Nintendo insists on never discounting certain games. It’s hard to swallow paying $60 for a 5 year old game that I’m only somewhat interested in. Meanwhile steam will let you buy a game like that for $15 bucks. Half the time you buy it and never play it, but just wanted to get it on sale just in case you do find time to give it a go.
Plus most people will already a pretty stacked library day 1 when they get a steam deck. I wouldn’t have to buy another game for years or even a decade if I were to get a steam deck just based on what I still have on my backlog.
And if I buy a game for the steam deck I can still play it on my pc whenever
Don’t forget a more user friendly digital download SHARING system as well… We tried “SHARING” a digital download switch game a few times… Steam is far more forgiving. Switch wins on swapping carts however, if you stick to physical purchases for sharing.
plus way more nintendo, super nintendo, genesis, and n64 games then you can get on switch online
It’s a computer, so yes. There are more computer games than switch games.
There are more playable/verified games on the Steam Deck than there are switch games.
Both are computers.
One is PC game compatible Linux
The switch runs on a chip that’s used in Android TVs and really old tablets. It could theoretically run way more if Nintendo weren’t so difficult.
The Switch can dual (tri?) boot Linux and Android beside itself
High quality thousand of games…
