This is due to the voting system.
We need voter reform STV please. But at this point I’ll take that system in ancient Greece where they pull a name out of a bag and its your civic duty to lead for a year no questions asked.
“By policies are slightly less extreme right than my openly fascist opponent’s!”
That’s awfully reductive
And entirely accurate.
Found the Democrat.
Also I stand firmly with Israel for no reason
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Genocide Joe is banking on ‘not being Trump’ while he also actively supports a genocide in Gaza and brutal repression, land theft, ecocide and killings in the occupied West bank. He is sending billions of dollars in arms and supplies there, even sidelining congress to do so.
It’s not entirely without reason though, he intends to use Israel as a shield against Iran to protect oil interests in the region, but still. Those interests are paid for with Palestinian blood.
He’s still not Trump though, who’d let the genie continue and speed up the one in Ukraine, and likely allow a new one in at least Taiwan (but probably other Chinese and Russian desired countries too).
And also Joe Biden is aiding and abetting a genocide
Edit; Trump is ostensibly worse.
But Joe Biden is aiding and abetting a genocide. Never forget that this scumbag is doing this. Y’all deserve better. Like putting Joe Biden before the ICC and having him down a bottle of poison like Slobodan Praljak or something.
We deserve better but the GOP wants to serve Trump. What a pickle.
And Joe Biden is aiding and abetting genocide.
“gEnOciDe jOe” said Trump’s puppet!
Bruh I’m a leftist lmao. Fuck m both.
But don’t ever forget Biden is aiding and abetting genocide.
Things are so extraordinarily fucked right now that THIS should be enough of a reason to get out there and vote to keep the orange-utan out of office.
Jack Johnson: I say, your three cent titanium tax goes too far!
John Jackson: And I say, your three cent titanium tax doesn’t go too far enough!
Don’t let their identical DNA fool you
Yep, you’ve successfully identified the problem.
Now what’s your suggestion for what we do about it?
Great question!
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Proportional Representation, which can be anything from party list to multi-winner districts using Sequential Proportional Approval Voting
I have a headache so please do me the favor of reading through the links before asking questions, though by the time I check back in I’ll probably be in a better mood to chat.
Those are great concepts, but I’ll ask again, what’s your suggestion for what we do about it?
Listing ideas isn’t anything at all the same as implementing actionable change.
And hey, I’m not trying to argue, I fucking hate the system the way it is and desperately want to see us make some progress in our fight to change it or tear it down so a better one can be built in its place… But I never actually see that. I see a lot of theory, a lot of smart concepts, a whole fuck ton of unproductive disparaging… but I keep waiting for somebody to talk about real world actionable plans. I’m not being insincere, I hope you or anyone does have a viable actionable plan. God that would be incredible.
But until then, I can’t help but feel like these defeatist memes do nothing but further enable the system by disenfranchising and disinteresting noticeably specific demographics that might be likely to vote comparative left, serving mostly only to stifle what little incremental progress we could accomplish in the big races and ensuring these same people don’t get interested or involved enough to be active in the early stages of the process where the choices of actual consequence can be made.
Imo, apathy and enlightened centrism aren’t neutral positions, they’re right-enabling positions, as is the “leftist purity” bullshit position that prioritizes personal uncompromising “integrity” of position at the expense of real world harm reduction.
Join up with the Center for Election Science and volunteer to switch your local elections to approval! Typically this is done through a referendum, like was done in Fargo and St. Louis.
The hardest part is building the organization to collect signatures and run the referendum campaign. But, success breeds success, so you running a successful local campaign (like Fargo and St. Louis) will make it easier to turn around and get neighboring areas to switch, which will make it easier to run a state-level campaign to switch.
As for proportional representation, I don’t know of any US organizations working on it at the moment, and I’m like you, I want actionable change. If you’re willing to spin up a whole political machine on your own, go for it, but I suggest working on furthering the established approval momentum and worrying about proportional representation later.
Sadly, this is where we are now. And until it changes- this is EXACLY what you do. You vote for the guy that isn’t going to do the shit the other guy is going to do.
It’s as simple as that.
One guy is going to destroy democracy in America.
The other guy isn’t.
It’s a simple concept.
Suggesting that bourgeois “democracy” is democratic in the first place lmao. The only ones who have a say in how this poorly veiled oligarchy is run are the ruling class of capitalists. That’s what this system was designed to do in the first place after all.
The people just get to take part in an electoral circus every few years to pretend like they have a choice. Also keeps the working class divided among two parties and decreases the chances of a revolution for a better system; thus protecting the capitalist ruling class.
Today I opened the fridge and two options presented to me was a piece of moldy bread and leftovers that I didn’t particularly fancy. I decided that the only logical option would be to punch myself in the nuts as hard as I can. I will not do anything esle and tomorrow I will open the fridge again hoping something will miraculously change.
Your logical option would’ve been to prepare to go out and buy something else. i.e join a leftist org with the goal of increasing the movement to eventually overthrow the current fucked up system like many nations have done (see below) and try to convince your friends and family to do the same.
And if you’re comparing funding an ongoing genocide with leftovers… Idk what to tell you tbh
This is exactly how they want you to think. It’s disempowering. It’s a kind of fatalistic politics of inevitability that keeps the masses docile and resigned.
What keeps the working class docile and resigned is making them think their bourgeois “democracy” isn’t rigged against them in the first place.
Once someone understands that, they can develop class consciousness and organize to eventually to forcibly change the system to a better one; that has always been the most successful way people have changed their nations for the better.
Vote for the guy sidestepping congress to back genocide to save us from the guy who wants to sidestep congress to back genocide
Vote for the guy sidestepping congress to back genocide to save us from the guy who wants to
sidestep congress to back genocideuse the police powers of the executive state to enact retribution on his perceived enemies. Among myriad other things.Look, I’m hardly a fan of Biden but making the argument that Biden and Trump are both equally bad options is fucking delusional.
They’re not equally bad but a vote for Democrats isn’t a vote against fascism it’s a vote for delayed fascism for 4 years. Dems haven’t and won’t stand up against fascists. Turns out voting for mid right doesn’t do much against far right. 🤷
I’d rather be granted 4 years to fix it than have it all taken away because a bunch of kids had a temper tantrum over a single issue vote.
Ah yes, schrodingers leftists -
You need us to vote
mid rightblue no matter who, but not enough to even pretend that you don’t hate us and make stupid over generalized assumptions as much as the faschies you pretend to hate.Naaah. Best to not vote at all and point the finger at others when democracy is lost. Because it’s NEVER your fault.
Because you didn’t vote!
Big brain logic right there.
And often that’s the most important factor.
My standard stump speech is: "Vote for me because I’m a Nice Guy!TM "
I think it makes me totally qualified and the perfect candidate.
They asked UK voters what Kier Starmer stands for and the resulting word cloud was absolutely brutal…
Why are the “left” parties so fucking terrible at being leftists?
Starmer isn’t leftist, he’s a Blairite. You know, the guy who got the UK into two illegal wars. For god’s sake the guy is anti union. I’m afraid of what Labour will become ever since the anti Corbyn coup.
That is exactly what republicans took to the extreme since the advent of limbaugh and murdoch.
Democrats are for environmental protection? I will oppose all environmental protection.
Democrats are for universal healthcare? I will oppose all universal healthcare.
Democrats are for gun control? I will oppose all gun control.
I’d bet real money that the kids chanting “genocide Joe” are entirely unaware that their little grassroots movement was created by conservatives to boost Trump’s election chances.
And it’s totally working.
Boy, Biden Bros realllllyyyy come out to play defense for these type of posts, eh? Can’t have any criticism against genocide Joe without telling us for the umpteenth time that it’s not his fault and that he’s really trying.
Feeling the need to call a 3 panel meme comic “reductive” with zero irony is very on brand for libs in 2024.
Homie, I’m not American and I have zero fucking skin in the game, but you are delusional if the same situation happened with trump in charge that people wouldn’t be calling him genocide trump or some dumb shit. He would definitely support the isrealis all the same, that and Ukraine would have been left to be conquered by the pussy Russians.
Trump is a fascist. His voters want genocide. He’s as open as a politician currently can be about wanting and liking genocide. Joe Biden is called Genocide Joe because, theoretically, he should be against genocide. His voters also are against genocide. But Joe Biden is actively supporting genocide.
Biden is called gEnoCiDe jOe because that’s what MAGA America wants you to call him. And you’re falling for it
