Why do attention hoes always
Talk like
This.
Period. Full stop.
I always wonder how assholes like you end up thinking they’re acceptable, especially with a lot of your comments being okay.
Their user is literally “cum”, I wouldn’t give them the time of day lmao
what the hell are you even talking about, there’s nothing even rude in my comment. I am so confused by your comment
I mean that’s even more problematic as the entirety of your comment is rude, you start with “attention hoes” and then point out the way the text was written with bad intentions. I don’t know what you don’t understand about your comment being bad.
rude? Is it your comment or are you trying to be upset for them
I explained why your comment is rude because you were confused lol
so I ask again, rude to whom? Are you being offended on their behalf?
Most importantly, they’re searchable on the internet.
Discord isn’t even really searchable on discord. It was never meant for this kind of stuff and it shows.
What? Discord search is great. You can search by users, channels, text string, attachment file type, date, etc.
Ok, so say something is up with my car and i want to look into fixing it. I’m not in any car discord servers, so how do i find what is up with my car with? I can search all the dates and users i want, but i wont find anything useful. 10 years ago i could have just googled my make and model with with problem and the first link would have been a Saturn owners forum i never heard of with a thread detailing the problem thoroughly as well as estimates of how much i can expect to pay to fix it. Discord is just a modern IRC; it’s great for talking with your buddies in real time and having that all be logged, but it’s a terrible way to find information.
Lol yeah, now when you search google for stuff like that the experience is:
You find a website with a link to an owner’s enthusiast discord for your car’s model.
But then once you join you have access to one channel called #rules
Then you figure out you have to react to that one message in that channel with a tire burning out emoji and you get access to another channel called #introductions where you have to describe yourself and your car.
Then if a mod thinks it’s genuine, they’ll let you in to the other channels.
You finally get in and search for your issue. Your issue is really specific, but you don’t know the technical terms to search for, so your keyword of “brake squeaking” pulls up all a massive unorganized list of results purely sorted by post date of anything including those keywords, no way to sort by relevancy or popularity, so you scroll, and you scroll.
You find one message that is close, but you need more info. But before you can post in the #help channel you have to make 3 posts in #general (to fight spam of course).
Finally, after succeeding in the requirements, you copy a link to the message you found in search and post in #help.
A mod tells you to use the search, that question has been answered. You explain that you already did but you’re not sure exactly what to search for. You are now banned
Discord’s walled garden and conversational approach is awful for gestalt knowledge storage and access.
So that’s the reason why in the Star Trek future there’s a whole chunk of 21st Century history missing. Not because of a global war, but because everyone was posting on Slack, Discord, and gated social networks.
Forums are gated too?
I like how Discourse is becoming more and more popular for FOSS communities, but would love if it supported federation
Didn’t discourse add apub integration just recently?
You can do forums for a community on Steam.
You can do real time chatting on Steam.
You even have a huge set of emojis!
You can also do real time voice comms via Steam, even in a group setting.
You can also stream your game, or with a little bit of tomfoolerly, your desktop, or other applications, via Steam.
This all works on basically all OSs at this point, and a large part of it works on mobile as well.
Steam is also way, waaay more secure than Discord.
And you also get MySpace-esque customizable personal homepages for yourself.
From a technical standpoint… here you go here is your solution for basically all kinds of social media/online interaction.
Why do more people not recognize this or use it this way?
/Because the vast, vast majority of internet users are uninformed, highly susceptible to peer pressure , and love to build and follow social norms for superficial reasons./
When it comes to socializing on the internet, the vast, vast majority of people will /say/ they would prefer to use some kind of system that works some kind of way, and then not actually do that and instead just go with whatever most of their friends are using, or with what is wildly popular, or with whatever some niche community they are interested in is using.
If you have ever looked at much market research data, for basically anything really, but especially tech and double especially video games, you will soon realize the vast majority of people are hypocritical and inconsistent about a great many things, and seem to /think/ they care about things that their /actions/ clearly indicate they do not really actually care about.
/Because the vast, vast majority of internet users are uninformed, highly susceptible to peer pressure , and love to build and follow social norms for superficial reasons./
I offer a less patronizing explanation:
Social interaction requires other people to interact with. A platform with more people can provide more social interaction. The average person does not make the choice to use larger platforms because they are uninformed or affected by peer pressure. They make that choice because the thing they value most in social media is a large userbase.
The average person does not claim to want something more out of social media. They don’t care what advantages or disadvantages a platform has.
There are of course people who claim to care about these things and still continue to use more popular and worse platforms, but they are far less common than you seem to think. Also the fact they aren’t changing their behavior doesn’t mean they don’t actually care, it just means they care more about other things.
The thread games you could play in forums were better than anything reddit clones and irc clones could muster.
Remember Tapatalk for Android? It was an Android killer app a decade ago. I miss forums.
Go back I have been rejoining and reclaiming old accounts.
Discord for a group of your friends? Fantastic. Discord for a game/company/organization? Miserable.
i never understood why anyone would want to use discord for anything else than friends or small communities
Linear forums sucked. Reddit provided the sane solution: nested comments and vote-based sorting.
Last month someone linked to Something Awful, for a thread about the site’s greatest stories. Cramping my scroll-wheel finger and wearing out my patience, forty tall-ass posts at a time, each of them festooned with signatures and animated GIFs and a mile of whitespace - I cannot tell you instantly exhausting it was to see the thread had four hundred pages. Seeing any one question answered required scrolling through ten of them. X mentions a thing, Y asks about it a page and a half later, and Z jokes about it three pages on, and then fffinally someone tells Y what’s going on.
This is interest poison. This is a format that actively targets engagement and destroys it. Did you miss a day or two? Kiss it goodbye, because you’re never going to catch up and still give a shit.
They both have their place. I’m on linear forums as well as here, and other types convo format social media
Then you find modetated forum and you can follow anyone, not just a community/subreddit, and over the years…
Great for sharing and storing valuable rare information too.
Never really put my finger on why, but that must be the reason I’ve never been active on any forums, just lurking, but I’ve always been very much active on Reddit and now lemmy. Combine that with the need to register an account to all the different forums and the fact that you can’t catch up to all of them from a single front page.
Problem with reddit is that everyone thinks they’re a comedian and people just upvote the same repeated jokes over and over. You still have to wade though tons of garbage to find the good stuff, and thats after filtering tons of shit with RES. Reddit was great at one point but it got exhausting.
r/science was great in this regard. They moderated the threads to weed out the exhaustion.
You can collapse whole comment trees, though, which cuts down scrolling time.
You can with a decent App…
On old.reddit, it’s the
[-]button and on new reddit it’s done by pressing the vertical lines on the left of the comments. I don’t know about mobile.
If you nested the comments by time and layer instead of votes and layer it would reduce the amount of attention seeking behavior.
First!
-_-
Reduce
I wonder if something that combines reddit and slashdot could work well. Instead of simply up voting things, you do “+1 funny” or something.
wikis for knowledge, IM for socialization. forums for serious discussion? thank god i don’t have to manage this stuff i have no idea what i’m saying
I’m not saying that discord servers for support are a good solution – I think the problems with archiving and search alone should disqualify it as a support platform.
But forums have their own problems. I think it’s weird that forum advocates don’t seem to consider why it started to fade as a medium. Individual accounts for each forum, the need for active moderation of threads for relevancy, and practices that made for negative user experiences like rules against necroing are all valid reasons (among others) for why people moved away from forums. And I can’t think of a great way to prevent the “I need help!!” thread titles besides having moderators or approvals.
Knowledge management is hard, there’s a reason why library science is a master’s level degree lol
If you thought Reddit or Lemmy mods were bad, wait until you deal with a forum admin on a power trip.
I always find it weird when people complain about getting banned by “power tripping mods”. I have only had a few encounters with a moderator who I thought was being overly obsessive about arbitrary rules. Most of my time, I did not care to resubmit contents to a group who did not want to see it anyways. The few times that I did, I carefully tried to address the moderators objections and my repost was allowed.
Sure, there are definitely some idiots who are obsessed with their perfect view of what should be said on a forum, but most of the time that I have seen, it is a user who cannot act right and doubles down on their stupid when they get called out on it.
Am I the only one who used IRC and then Discord to moderate forums?
Jokes on you, i never left forums.
You cannot possibly expect people to sit there after they type their shit frothing in the mouth waiting for any reply or stimulation because you deprived them of the ability to send their floaty emojis and see numbers move around. Imagine that.
Notifications, up/down votes, and emojis exists even on forums. You’re using one that supports them right now
