The senator said he has “a hard time understanding” why Trump’s legal issues don’t “seem to be moving the needle” with more voters.

Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) called out the majority of Iowa Republican caucus voters who baselessly believe that President Joe Biden did not win the 2020 election legitimately.

“I think a lot of people in this country are out of touch with reality and will accept anything Donald Trump tells them,” Romney, who announced in September that he is not seeking reelection, told CNN journalist Manu Raju on Wednesday.

About 65% of Iowa caucusgoers said they believe former President Donald Trump’s lie that the 2020 election was “stolen” from him, according to entrance poll data.

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    I cannot understand how conservatives in the us that do not buy in to the maga talking points can still vote for their party.

    They have seen the checks and balances in action so all they need to do is stay home one election cycle to give a clear signal… this is not the direction they want. This will force the Republican party to face the maga extremists and go back to their normal ways. Which still is not good but at least not beholden to a narcissist wannabe dictator.

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      all they need to do is stay home one election cycle to give a clear signal

      Perhaps they too have constant messaging from their party to hold their noses and vote for him this time or joe “will destroy their way of life”

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      The problem is that this didn’t start with Trump. He is just the perfect type of candidate to harness the lightning.

      That mentality started with Lee Atwater and has slowly mutated into what it is today. All of the signs were there. It’s why John McCain had such a hard time and why he had to have a “firebrand” as a running mate

      The group at the center of a lot of the mutation is Fox News. Without their dedication to creating an alternate universe of reality, I don’t think things would be as bad.

      There’s a pretty good documentary on Lee Atwater called Boogey Man and it’s on Prime right now.

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    I mean, Fox News and right wing radio shows have been pushing disinformation for years. It was there before Trump. I mean, how many people believe Obama is a Muslim? Election denial is just an off shoot of that with many of their propaganda pieces.

    Nowadays though there’s just a cinematic universe of shows (PragerU, Shapiro, etc) for right wingers to cosplay their fake reality in.

    Although, I’ll step in and say I don’t know if Ben actually is an election denier. I don’t think he would be.

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      What is your understanding of why Trump’s legal issues don’t seem to be moving the needle with more voters?

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        Simple.

        Fascists don’t care about the law.

        The GOP has taken a sharp turn into fascism.

        Romney is living in a nostalgic world where the GOP was just the party for rich old white guys who wanted to cheat the poor, and not the party of “Literal sterilization camps at the border”.

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    some? Mitt, every single dumbass that voted to give that piece of shit any responsibility is completely divorced from reality, you selfish, rich asshole… kinda like Mormons, they’ll believe whatever they like…

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      That’s not true! I’ve met some people that voted for Trump in 2016 that have come to regret it.

      I can’t say the same thing about people that still plan to vote for him in 2024, though.

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        they only regret it because they’re worried somebody might be mad at them… everyone who voted for him is an ignorant, selfish asshole who can’t be cured…

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          It’s easy to armchair quarterback this. There were a lot of unknowns, and a lot of projection going into 2016. There was also the fact that Clinton, for better or worse, was deeply unpopular. There was also a lot more faith in the system to keep him from doing much harm. It seems obvious now, but it wasn’t clear back then exactly what we were walking into.

          As an example, there were voices saying from the beginning that he would refuse to leave office. But the way the system is designed, the person doesn’t leave office, the office leaves the person. Once the term ends (automatically, I might add), they become just another trespasser in the white house. He would have to launch a fucking coup to stay in power. Well, guess what happened…

          Above all else, he showed exactly how fragile the entire system is and continues to be. In the 3 years since, we have done almost nothing to fix that. This is why it’s so alarming to people that he could win again.

          The fact that there are some who came to learn from this mistake gives me some hope for this country. I just hope there are enough of them.

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            morons didn’t want to know anything… every single person who voted for him can eat shit…

            all Trump voters are full of excuses just like him, and they can shove every excuse right up their lazy, ignorant asses

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    Never forget that Mitt was happy to have Trump’s support in 2012. Mitt even made a few mild ‘birther’ jokes from time to time.

    Even now he can’t come out and call Trump a traitor and a convicted sex criminal because that might hurt the Party.

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    These people are out of touch with reality, now, let me tell you about my imaginary invisible friend who will torture us forever if we don’t do what the men in robes and hats say he wants and tithe 10% of our income to them.

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      Conservatives in general are people who love to be lied to.

      Qdotards prove that conservatives love to be lied to.

      Pizzadotards prove that conservatives love to be lied to.

      Birtherdotards prove that conservatives love to be lied to.

      Sandyhookdotards prove that conservatives love to be lied to.

      Start the Steal dotards prove that conservatives love to be lied to.

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    I laugh at articles I see which site “independent voters”. If you’re still claiming to be undecided on Trump in 2023, you’re brain dead or full of shit or both. You know exactly who he is by now

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    Fucking all of them are.

    I have a friend of mine, he’s an old man who isn’t long for this world… he idolizes Trump and writes off anything negative about him as propaganda, and claims Trump is this genius who outsmarts everyone, that no one “really believes” in the things he’s being prosecuted for, and he’ll be seen as a Martyr when Joe Biden has him assassinated because the “Blatant mistreatment” he’s recieved has made him too sympathetic…

    And EVERYTHING he says about Trump has him painted as this Patriotic American Super Hero, this… Great Man who’s five steps ahead…

    And that ANYTHING that shows him a negative light is ALL of the Media wokring together on a secret plan to make this Steel Balled Ubermench look foolish…

    It’s real sad, he’s an old man who’s usually smarter than this, but… the fantasy that the world will be “saved” while he’s still alive, keeps his mouth against Trump’s ass