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Surely farming and construction aren’t considered unskilled labor? It looks like the left middle square is at a sewing machine which I also wouldn’t consider unskilled
which is why its a myth, ungrounded in reality
This is trying to ride a thin line and I don’t think it hits the mark. Sure, there are skills involved in any labor. But “unskilled” is just shorthand for not having particular requirements that are rare enough that labor gets to charge more for them. It’s not a myth that there are jobs where a large enough group of people can do the job and it pulls down the price you can charge for your labor when you are doing the job.
If anything this is an argument for a higher minimum wage, not a union.
You used the myth of the market to defend a system paying people starvation wages. There is no “market” deciding to starve people. There are owners and managers with names and addresses making these choices and “the market” is their mythology so they can abuse humans blame free.
The myth is that the numbers represent an objective value of a human. That is false. Supply and demand aren’t a myth. They aren’t the only way wages are determined, sure. But try to hire an accredited dentist for minimum wage, you can’t because there aren’t enough of them. That is a supply constraint that increases the prices dentists can charge.
That’s not objective and not even a free market, a good amount of the price is because we have decided a certain group of people set the standard for what constitutes an accredited dentist and they decided on including X amount of schooling that costs a certain amount of money etc. But it is a supply constraint that raises the cost to hire a dentist, there is a supply and demand component in there.
It can lead to morally bad results and be something that needs to be fixed (via, for example, the minimum wage I mentioned or…naming and shaming as you imply to be the fix) while not being a myth. Supply and demand exist.
Every fucking time:
It’s a distinction between “on-the-job training will suffice” and “no chance without years of prep.”
No shit anything worth paying a human for involves human skills. But some jobs are open to just about anyone who can put up with it, and some jobs kill people when you try to muscle through on sticktoitiveness. A fast food restaurant can bring some rando up-to-speed in a couple weeks. An ER cannot. The distinction is necessary.
Nitpicking the label misses the point:
All labor deserves a living wage.
It doesn’t fucking matter how difficult or complex a job is. If your business wants people’s time - you had better fucking pay them enough to be there next month. Otherwise, you don’t get to be a business.
Unskilled labour should be replaced by machines and robots.
Read chapters 15 and 16 of capital on automation.
Why should I read sick delusions?
Lol you have been taught to be scared of shadows.
Its literally just a book on economics, and a lot of it is providing more solid proofs for earlier theories of Smith and Ricardo
The answer to your question is
“So you don’t say ignorant things like “just replace all unskilled labor with automation””
