• HaveYouPaidYourDues@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I haven’t gotten far enough in the comments to see it, but I’m a bit miffed that rich assholes can admit to doing lsd on the national media and be fine, while poor people go away for years for a couple grams of marijuana…

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      Hi, just in case you were wondering, drugs aren’t by default good. They carry risks of all sorts, from killing your liver, cancer, death, addiction, a crutch to avoid dealing with shit, or psychological problems. Too many problems to list. The drug community is usually the first to blame their own when something goes wrong by citing failure to follow some broscience or other old-wives wisdom, or just act like it’s not a problem caused by the drug, just the user. What, didn’t you do a full family psychiatric history before taking (drug) and having a psychotic break? Well, damn…not the drug’s fault.

      All that said, I’m not anti-drug, if people want to do that stuff that’s up to them.

      No different than someone trying to sell me on drinking more or that alcohol is ok. Ok, maybe I’ll have an extra beer or three, and if someone says that alcohol isn’t great…they’re right. Even if I don’t really want to hear it.

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        Yes we seem to have gotten to the point of liberalism that “drugs are good”. No, illicit drugs are generally not good, but there are circumstances where they can be useful or better than the legal alternative. They need to be regulated and treated like a health issue rather than a criminal one.

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          They can’t make money from their racket if they fix the problem by treating it as a health and social issue.

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          “Group”?

          Like what?

          There are absolutely research papers from legitimate sources that have investigated people’s LSD use and the long-term effects of its use. A ln internet search using those words will get you what you want. “Long term effects of LSD”.

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            It’s not the kind of research we have in Marijuana. Mostly due to legalisation.

            Most of the critical experiments around lsd were done by Hoffman himself

            Edit: specifically speaking, controlled studies

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    He’s so cool and laid back frfr

    What a badass 50 year old man, living his edgy teenage dreams

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    Rules with prison consequences for the poor, don’t apply to the rich.

    Arrest this hypocrite fuck and give him the same federal prison sentence a poor black man would get.

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    Irrelevant comment, but I wish that psychedelics were not classified by people as drugs. There is little in common in impact to your health and to your “high” between traditional drugs like cocaine and opioids and psychedelics.

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      i have hallucinogen perception persistance disorder, basically means im permanantly tripping from abusing lsd in my early 20s. shit can be dangerous, punching holes in my brain aye

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        Did not know that was a thing, did some reading on it. How distracting is it for you? Do you have “bad” or “good” micro trips?

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          its very mild trippy visuals, usually when i look at the blue sky or a white wall. it has inconvenient moments like while driving but overall its no big deal. definately no bad mircrotrips. just a constant reminder not to abuse drugs

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      Why wouldn’t they be drugs? The word drug in itself is not negative. Seems to me they are very obviously drugs.

      • They mean, they shouldn’t be scheduled. Regulated, like tobacco and alcohol, but not scheduled.

        Caffeine, chocolate, heck aspirine, acetamenaphine, and countless other drugs aren’t even regulated. But it’s clear what they’re trying to say: many scheduld drugs shouldn’t be illegal to produce or use.

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      LOL WUT? A drug is everything that changes your psyche in any way in my book. Heroin, Alcohol, LSD, Weed, Paracetamol, Caffeine, Cocaine. It’s ALL drugs!

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        I really doubt that, they already don’t see their workforce as people, imagine the hellscape they’d create with even more unhinged visions.

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      Except for LSD, LSD can create crystals in your brain and make you trip for weeks. The rest of them, yeah, I agree with you.

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        LSD does not form crystals in your brain or anywhere else in your body. That’s some nonsense they made up to scare kids in the 60’s.

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          My partner knows someone it happened to. The guy ended up in the hospital for weeks because he was constantly tripping. I also tried to google it, and I found several reddit threads of people complaining about trips that weren’t ending like they’re supposed to.

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            The guy ended up in the hospital for weeks because he was constantly tripping.

            More than likely they were dosed with something other than lsd, or they had a psychotic episode brought on by LSD. There are designer drugs out there that people sell as LSD, that have a much longer active time.

            LSD does hang around in the brain longer than one would initially believe based on dosage, but it’s recently been proven that the lysergic acid gets temporarily trapped in serotonin receptors.

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            Whatever happened to the person your partner knows, it was not LSD forming crystals in their brain. That’s not a thing.

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              I don’t know what happened to him. I just know it happened. Maybe it’s not crystals forming in the brain, but that does happen, which was the point of my comment.

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                This can’t possibly be a real person.

                This sentence is so poorly constructed and contradictory that it seems like it was written by a bottom of the barrel LLM.

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                its not possible. what is possible is getting hallucinogen perception persistance disorder, what i have from abusing far too much lsd in my early 20s.

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                The point was lost when you started repeating someone else’s made up bullshit about LSD, repeatedly, like it was factual.

                Be open to change rather than closed minded and too arrogant to just admit you were wrong.

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                  I did say maybe it wasn’t crystals, but a guy did spend a bunch of time in the hospital, that happened. And it’s not a random person, it’s my partner who told me this, not some random person. I did concede that it may not be crystals, literally said that. But he did spend a bunch of time in the hospital, that is a fact. Don’t know why people would keep telling me I’m wrong about someone spending time in the hospital.

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                I just know it happened. Maybe it’s not crystals forming in the brain, but that does happen, which was the point of my comment.

                For something that totally happens, Google is completely unaware of it. Why can’t you just accept you’re wrong? Sounds like you confused what you heard.

                LSD is one of the most potent, mood-changing chemicals. It is manufactured from lysergic acid, which is found in the ergot fungus that grows on rye and other grains. It is produced in crystal form in illegal laboratories, mainly in the United States. These crystals are converted to a liquid for distribution.

                Created as a crystal, not crystals in the brain, seems like the most likely explanation.

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            It’s not forming crystals in your brain…

            Some people with a relatively unstable psychology and/or who don’t follow the “set and setting,” could experience a bad trip which can trigger an episode of predisposed psychosis. More often than not, this can easily be prevented by having a competent sitter guiding you and not going full out with a heroic (max-effect) dose your first time.

            Think of it like learning to drive, you wouldn’t hop into a sports car solo, and expect not to have a good chance of screwing something up

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      There are absolutely impacts on your health though. Stuff changes your personality and sometimes, often, not for the best

      I know a lot of former friends with brain rot from our crazy days

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        I did not say that they are safe, especially if taken regularly, but they are quite different. And there is evidence that psychedelics do change people for the better too and are being investigated for things like depression treatment.

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      I mean, they not only change things in your body and meet the definition of a drug. But make far more of a change in your body than say Tylenol, ibuprofen, or nicotine. They impare your judgment more than weed or alcohol. Maybe less long term effects than alcohol, as long as you don’t kill someone in the process since you perception of reality is impared. It makes perfect sense that it is considered a drug. Now, whether they want to legalize it with stipulations to keep people around you safe (i.e., regulate the drug) is a different discussion.

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        I think it’s person to person and dose dependent. I can’t walk after even delta 8. Unless I take enough acid to become one with the world, I’m fine. I enjoy life a little more at most.

        I don’t give a shit about regulation, but being able to buy some of these chemicals in the open would be so much safer.

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    If a story got out that the boss of a local black-owned business was smoking weed out back with his employees, they would all be arrested so fast…

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        Had to look it up, you’re not kidding

        At parties in recent years, Musk has been spotted taking ketamine recreationally through a nasal spray and drinking liquid ecstasy from a water bottle

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          Idk if you heard, but ketamine seems to be the new in drug right now. I have no idea why, it existed when I was in high school over 20 years ago but I never saw it then. These days it’s at all the music fests and I just found out a bunch of my friends started using it as of the last 6 months. I don’t get out much so when I heard about them using it I was caught off guard. The only thing we all would do in the past is smoke weed and sometimes take some shrooms. I absolutely will not be trying that out, that’s above anything I ever wanted to tangle with…

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          If that’s true (which it probably is and it makes sense), that’s cool! It’s not like he’s doing fentanyl, lmao.

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        And he is supplying parts and services to high security government projects. How does he have a security clearance?

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    The emperor has no clothes, but the pragmatic cowards he surrounds himself with are afraid to tell him.

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      It sure seems like the people who told him the truth got ejected from his orbit. Now all that’s left are the grifters.

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    : cocaine, LSD, ecstasy, and magic mushrooms

    It obvious that Musk is keeping the good S tier stuff for himself and only sharing the B rank stuff with board members.