A teenager was shot and killed by a police officer responding to a residence in Nebraska to conduct a welfare check, state police said.
  • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    There is no active threat to the community

    Except from the COPS WHO KEEP FUCKING SHOOTING EVERYONE YOU STUPID CUNTS

  • stoly@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    For some reason the police just love to murder suicidal people. I think that the brain of a conservative short circuits at the thought of it, then the monkey rage comes out.

      • stoly@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Assuming that your question was genuine (the downvoters probably assume you’re a troll), I am just philosophizing. A lot of conservatives have a complete lack of empathy for other people and will often become angry at seeing people who present as “weak”. It’s the way that bullies work–they look for the vulnerable people and target in on them for harassment. I am convinced that conservatives can’t handle the concept of suicide. They have spent their lives not really introspecting and so never have the capacity to feel that way. I feel that they react emotionally and violently to the thought, which is what leads to so many police officers simply shooting and killing people who wanted to commit suicide.

        Google it, you’ll find 5-10 or so articles about this EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Hey, what if a terminally I’ll crazy patient visit the police department of every city? I mean many terminally I’ll patients. They could be 12 years old if that helps.

    Wouldn’t they all just start shooting themselves in a crazy shark feeding stupid way? Like when you see Koi ponds getting fed and all the Koi make the pond go crazy.

  • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I’ll say it again and again, before you call the cops for anything, you need to remember what you’re actually doing. You are willingly inviting an armed person, who will not lose a fight or back down, who is shielded from legal consequences, into your situation.

    Grandpa isn’t answering his phone or the door and you’re worried? Call a locksmith, not the cops. Cops will just kick the door or call the locksmith anyway, now you have extra problems

    • Shyfer@ttrpg.network
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      8 months ago

      That’s what defund the police is about. It’s about shifting the funding to other sources, social workers and such, that can handle calls like these. It relieves police of having to deal with stuff like this, too.

      • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        Agreed. Don’t call the cops, figure your own shit out and call the appropriate professional for your situation

      • saintshenanigans@programming.dev
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        8 months ago

        Defund was a horrible fucking name for the movement though. We’d need the conservatives to be on board and they’re not going for that shit cause they’ll stop listening as soon as they think you’re taking power away from their tastiest boots.

        • korny@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          8 months ago

          Freedom Funding For Police Pact ought to be about right for the right leaning crowd.

        • Shyfer@ttrpg.network
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          8 months ago

          Even I agree with that. And I was one of those annoying guys screaming ACAB and shit. I really wish that didn’t end up becoming the main slogan, because I really agree with the idea behind it. It’s like if pro-choice people were framing their own position as pro-killing babies on their signs and stuff.

          • saintshenanigans@programming.dev
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            8 months ago

            Honestly ACAB is another badly defined slogan.

            The idea was that if only 10% of cops are actually “bad” and will hurt you, if the other 90% aren’t reporting them and holding them accountable, you cant trust that ANY cop is part of that 90% because choosing wrong can end your life.

            But then again you can’t explain all of that in one word lol

            • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              That’s not entirely true. Police departments demand conformity, following orders, and keeping a code of silence. Officers who tried to speak out about it in the past have been killed. While that’s the extreme end of things, it doesn’t take long to realize that being a good person and being a cop are mutually exclusive. Some departments make sure you receive morally dubious assignments during your year long probation. Assignments like arresting homeless people and destroying all of their possessions. Can you destroy someone’s life like that? If not then they flush you out and complain about an officer shortage for more money. That’s what ACAB is about. The guys who stood there and watched George Floyd get murdered are only the tip of the problem. The underwater iceberg is absolute lack of morality they show when interacting with the public.

        • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Hard disagree.

          • Police officers getting military equipment for free.

          • Police officers using gov funds to finance their own criminal activity in the name of “protecting the public”

          • Police officers committing crimes and the city pays the victims

          • Police officer unions protecting all bad apples. Insurance companies are struggling to reel them in. Cities are at their mercy.

          Defund them. Make them pay for their own shit.

          Because right now, they can absolutely fuck around with little consequences.

          • psivchaz@reddthat.com
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            8 months ago

            He wasn’t saying it was a bad idea, but that it was a bad name. You want to get something done in a democracy, you gotta get people on board. You want people on board, you gotta sell it.

          • saintshenanigans@programming.dev
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            8 months ago

            I mean shifting responsibility over to social workers etc for some of their jobs rn will accomplish most of that, but yes, it’s fucking insane how many war weapons they get to use on the people who literally pay for them, accountability definitely needs to be addressed as well

        • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Optics and phrasing matter. For as much criticism as Democrats get about being inept at it, ACAB and Defund show that the critics aren’t a whole lot better.

          • saintshenanigans@programming.dev
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            8 months ago

            Arguably, the way people perceive your project is more important than what it actually does. Probably a combination of both dems being shit at optics and repugs having the most well oiled propaganda machine in the world, cause it keeps fucking happening.

            Planned parenthood

            BLM

            ACAB

            defund the police

            Communist/socialist policies

          • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Or shunting off good candidates. Bernie has been talking truth for fucking 50 years but no nomination. There’s no central talking head, no real stated goal…

            I vote blue but fuck me they suck at rallying voters to a cause

          • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
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            8 months ago

            True, but not so much in this case. It was BLM, not the Democrats, and most Democrats rejected it. Biden even increased police funding in response.

            • saintshenanigans@programming.dev
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              8 months ago

              I think most of this was because of the successful propaganda campaign that made every BLM protest sound like a riot when it was some tiny percentage in truth

  • IHeartBadCode@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    “The Columbus Police Department was conducting a welfare check on a subject following a report of potential self-harm,” Nebraska State Patrol said in a press release.

    “Mission Accomplished”

  • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Can we give them the benefit of the doubt, please? They probably thought the child was a dog or a partner of theirs… \ACAB

  • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    The awfulness of the story aside, I do want to put a small bit of appreciation toward ABC News for not dropping some bullshit like “17-year-old man dead following an officer-involved shooting during a welfare check.” The voice is passive still, but at least it cuts to the point, that the kid was killed by a police officer.

    My only notes are that it should say “Officer shot and killed 17-year-old while conducting a welfare check.” As it is, it’s like it’s saying the kid was shot and killed, and it just so happened to be by an officer.

    • AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      8 months ago

      My only notes are that it should say “Officer shot and killed 17-year-old while conducting a welfare check.”

      I think the news would have to put allegedly in there somewhere.

      • ddh@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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        8 months ago

        No ‘allegedly’ required in the passive version, so not required in the active version

        • AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          8 months ago

          ‘Allegedly’ is not required because they are quoting the state police:

          A teenager was shot and killed by a police officer responding to a residence in Nebraska to conduct a welfare check, state police said.

  • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Oh boy, this post ain’t gonna be popular. Humor me and read it all.

    First off, there’s no meat on the bone here. Police called on a young man threatening self-harm, young man killed. Nothing to see here ATM.

    Did the kid have a gun? Did he threaten the cops? WTF happened?! Nothing in this story addresses the simplest questions. Hell, it didn’t ask questions, let alone get answers. FFS, this is Journalism 101. (I literally took that class, and more.)

    Here’s the question we should all be asking: Why are police the default mental health responders in America? We can all give a dozen reasons why that’s bullshit, but that’s not interesting. How do we actually make change? Read on.

    “Defund the police” is the dumbest political slogan I’ve ever heard. Jesus. I know what’s meant. You know what’s meant. Worst. Marketing. Ever.

    Had an opinion changing YouTube binge last night. Watched a dozen sov cits getting their asses handed to them in court. That evolved into watching cops bust idiots running around impersonating police officers.

    In both cases I was stunned at the calm and measured responses from the judges and cops involved. Over and over and over again. The patience on display was stunning. Me? LOL, I’d throw these asses in jail or beat them down with a billy club. Been on the receiving end of bad judges and cops. As bad as you think it is now, didn’t used to be like that!

    And why is it so much better today? We got public CAMERAS. I can usually argue both sides of an argument, if you can’t, you don’t understand the argument. I got nothing arguing cops shouldn’t be wearing body cams.

    Of course you don’t release the footage immediately to the public! Of course you don’t live stream that shit! And yes, there’s a technical\budgetary cost well above buying a fat HDD.

    Still. recording is plenty doable. Go to your local sheriff’s FB page and ask why they’re not using body cams. Demand answers. LOL, I got no answers from mine. But press them anyway and do not stop!

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      While I generally agree with the need to ask those questions, you’re starting with the presumption that everything was handled appropriately and the onus is on the observers to question it. Maybe that’s even true in the majority of cases.

      However that is NOT the expected outcome for that type of call. A lot of us will start with the assumption that a welfare check should not end in someone dead. The onus is on the responders to explain why this is different, and the onus is on all of us to improve the system if the responder had inappropriate skills and actions

    • jaschen@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      First of all, it’s an active investigation involving a minor. It’s likely that information won’t be provided even if you ask.

      Secondly, for someone who took journalism, you don’t seem to understand something called research. If you did any sort of research, you would understand that defund the police was a reallocation of funds away from the police to things like mental health professionals instead of decommissioned M16s.

      You should stop watching YouTube for your propaganda content. There are other countries in this world that do use police for wellness checks but the USA is the number one for killings during those checks.

      • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        They were saying they understood and agreed with the tenets of “defund the police” but thought that phrase was terrible marketing. It’s an easy target for the opposition to sway anyone in the middle, because it sounds like getting rid of police entirely.

      • Ifera@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        If you did any sort of research, you would understand that defund the police was a reallocation of funds away from the police to things like mental health professionals instead of decommissioned M16s.

        Ah, just like KAM is not all men, “Dead men can’t rape” is a fair and kind slogan, and “Believe all women” is a great campaign because women are naturally, immune to greed and would never use rape accusations as leverage or a punishing tool.

        There are bad cops, and sadly they are far too many, that is a fact I won’t even try to deny, but reactionary comments like this are similar to a person killing another on self defense, but the deceased was gay, so the self defense argument is ignored, and the killer is charged with murder, aggravated with a hate crime.