A woman in Florida says her 55-year-old “medically fragile” father was falsely accused of theft at a Florida grocery store last week and then seriously injured in a violent encounter with police. Now, she says, he is hospitalized and has lost the ability to speak.

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    She said he told her that he picked up four bananas, one of which he ate on the way to the register, and that he told the cashier that he needed to pay for four bananas even though she scanned only three. Anjelica Lee said her father told her he was followed closely while he was shopping by a white female employee, who, she said, accused him of stealing the banana he ate.

    “At first, I was trying to ask her what happened, and she was like, ‘People like you and him shouldn’t come into the store if you don’t have money to pay for things,’” Anjelica Lee said. “My mom is white, and my dad is Black. So I’m mixed. So I think she meant Black people. And it just escalated from that, and she went to cussing me out.”

    JFC. Racist piece of shit.

    Fuck the cops. Fuck this piece of garbage cashier.

    Fuck all this.

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      Wow. Non American here. My kid regularly eats while I shop. I just bring empty packets to register for them to scan and they normally throw them out for me. No problem. Like zero problem.

      I don’t even think our police would show up if they were called. They take 3hrs to turn up to a home invasion, so I doubt they’d show up for a banana. This is a crazy level of policing.

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        A lot of retail stores will have a police officer sit in their car close by so they can have a quick response to e for shoplifters. I see it a lot in areas that have several larger retail stores grouped together.

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    I see they opted for the Israeli definition of “measured and equitable response”.

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      Reminder that the IDF trains US cops. Palestinians are used as guinea pigs for policing techniques.

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    “At first, I was trying to ask her what happened, and she was like, ‘People like you and him shouldn’t come into the store if you don’t have money to pay for things,’” Anjelica Lee said. “My mom is white, and my dad is Black. So I’m mixed. So I think she meant Black people. And it just escalated from that, and she went to cussing me out.”

    You can almost guarantee the victim will be Black.

    Every. Fucking. Time.

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    We don’t have police. Just corporate enforcers. Pinkertons in different uniforms. Oh, you are accused of a 17 cent theft and didn’t do it? Eat lead I guess. I’m just so tired.

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        Yes, though lately it’s been taking a lot longer. The state government under 25 years of GOP rule isn’t too fond of the Sunshine Law.

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    EVEN IF HE DID STEAL THE BANANA ITS A FUCKING BANANA NOT THE PRESIDENT’S WIFE WHAT THE FUCK

    This isn’t going to end the normal way. The government is never going to take the steps necessary to get the police in check. Ever.

    We need to start hunting these fucks down en masse.

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      She said she feared for her father’s safety, so she got a bat from her car, approached the woman and told her to “pick on someone her own size, someone able-bodied.” She said she did not threaten the woman with the bat. Still, she said, the woman called police.

      the woman who called 911 told police that “after an incident with Joseph inside the store,” she encountered Anjelica Lee waiting outside with a metal bat in her hand. The woman told police that Anjelica Lee, while holding the bat, had told her to “clock out cause I’m gonna whoop your ass,” according to the affidavit. Anjelica Lee said she remembers telling the woman to meet her outside but not saying that.

      Afterward, the affidavit says, Anjelica Lee put the bat back into her car, went inside the store and knocked items off the shelves. She denies having done so. The woman told police she “was placed in a well-founded fear that” Anjelica Lee was going to cause her harm while she was holding the bat outside the store, according to the affidavit.

      Seems the father’s problems had less to do with the banana and more to do with his piece of shit daughter.

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        And what part of that justifies beating the father? The daughter was a bitch(possibly) so you say its ok that the police put the father in the hospital?

        Is that just how its supposed to work in your eyes? if your child acts up the police get to beat you into a fucking coma?

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          What beating?

          I ctrl-f’d the page for the word “beat” and found nothing. The only claims I see from the daughter or the father (I’m ignoring police claims) of any physical contact with the father are that he was pushed against a car by “nine or 10” of the 8 responding officers who were also arresting her, and then pushed to the ground.

          In the hospital photo provided by the family, I see no bruises, abrasions, or other injuries consistent with a “beating”.

          He interfered with the officers attempting to arrest his daughter, who had just threatened people with a baseball bat; a deadly weapon. Both pushing against a car and pushing to the ground are reasonable uses of force in detaining an uncooperative subject.

          It seems the daughter went bat shit crazy in the store, threatened employees, police responded in force, and dad got between them and the violent criminal they were there to arrest. He was quickly arrested by some of the cops while the others arrested the daughter.

          What do you think they should have done differently, once the daughter had began threatening people with a deadly weapon?

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            Anjelica Lee said her father, who already had a pacemaker, sustained an acute kidney injury in the encounter and is undergoing dialysis. She also said he can barely talk and is disoriented and confused. “He’s waking up panicked,” she said. “He doesn’t know where he’s at. He can no longer feed himself. We have to do that for him. They’re saying that some of the injuries could be long-term.”

            Read instead of ctrl-fing for an exact word i used in an attempt to be a pedantic bootlicker. He’s in the hospital, one of his kidneys is fucked up. But your right. they just pushed him around a little. and, again, he absolutely fucking deserved to have one of his kidneys trashed because he didn’t raise his daughter right.

            Thank you. You have enlightened me on how the world works.

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              I cited all claims of physical contact with the father: a highly exaggerated claim of being pushed against a car, and a claim of being pushed to the ground. Both claims were made by the daughter. I excluded all claims made by police.

              The daughter’s own claims suggest he was interfering with her arrest, telling her to ignore their instructions. The physical force she claims was used against him is consistent and reasonable for a non-compliant subject.

              Based entirely on her biased and exaggerated claims, I’m not seeing how their force was excessive or improper.

              Perhaps video evidence will arise showing something she didn’t see. She’d better hope they do, because her own statements have pretty much ensured police and the city will prevail if she tries to sue.

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                So they lied about his kidney injury? Him being in the hospital altogether is a lie? You say this is appropriate but, you yourself, say at the worst he tried to get them to stop arresting her. Your main claim as to why he deserved what happened to him is what his daughter did. Thats your go to.

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                  Lied? No. Misrepresented? Likely.

                  She acknowledged he was in poor health to begin with. She described chronic conditions, as well as acute symptoms occurring immediately prior to the altercation. They stopped at the store because his arms and legs were cramping up “due to an infection,” and he thought potassium would help.

                  Infection can cause acute renal failure. One of the early symptoms of acute renal failure is general cramping due to electrolyte imbalances. I think that it rather likely the kidneys were “injured” prior to the altercation and not during it.

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    This case needs to be highlighted to a DA or an org that will bring a suit to have the PD pay for this man’s hospitals bill and some sort of settlement for the distress caused to him and his family.

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    This is Polk County, Florida, home of the cowboy sheriff Grady Judd who has never seen a camera and microphone he didn’t want to use to engrandize himself. Except for the body worn ones. Polk County residents are not the most enlightened of people. But, never discount there being two sides to every story.

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      No answer to their question huh? I’d love to know what you think this old man could have done to justify putting him in the hospital like this. Go on. Tell us what other side to the story makes the end result ok.

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          Cops only knew that there was a shoplifter threatening the employee, and they saw the daughter with the bat. So they rolled up and took care of it.

          I really put almost all of this on the employee. Even in her own words, how do you follow someone out of the store screaming at them and threatening them, then say you’re afraid because the woman had a bat?

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            So the cops… See the woman with a bat and beat the shit out of the old man? Is this supposed to paint the cops in a better light or make them look less incompetent and stupid?

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              No, I don’t see how anyone could absolve the cops in this scenario. Incompetent, stupid, prone to violence, ready to violate human rights at the drop of a hat, are all fair descriptions here. Many of these police violence stories have in common that one officer crosses the line out of fear, but the others join in with some sort of mob mentality.

              But cops were new arrivals who most likely didn’t know the context. Fault them for excessive violence, having to control the situation with fear, need to be obeyed, etc, but this is sort of like a “swatting”. The person calling with a presumably incomplete story is most at fault. That person should be in prison, but it doesn’t change that those officers shouldn’t be trusted with authority and there needs to be a fundamental change in policing