The country will imprison or publicly flog 60 other suspected homosexuals.
Maybe some gays should do the same to Muslims
Someone hasn’t learned about the cycle of violence.
They sure havent.
This is what manufacturing consent looks like. Reminds me a lot of 2001 and 2002 during the war on Afghanistan and preparing for a war on Iraq.
The West’s media is running overdrive to demonize Yemenis.
They shouldn’t give the GOP any more ideas
The GOP surely inspired some part of this.
*Houthis in Yemen
New phone who dis?
And the opposing factions, supported by ksa, uae, usa would behave differently? I’m sure cutting off nearly all humanitarian aid under the last administration convinced them we’re more evolved.
I’m just pointing out that whoever posted this decided intentionally to leave the Houthi part out of the headline.
This is like saying “The communist party in china” or “the rebels in the British colonies”. Like, at this point it’s a fairly decided who is in charge of Yemen, and it’s just a matter of waiting for the rest of the world to recognize the facts on the ground.
It’s the Houthis in Yemen, not “Yemen”.
Grazia Careccia, Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa Deputy Director, called the planned executions “gruesome public spectacles” designed to spread fear among LGBTQ+ people and the Yemeni population at large.
Yet when Biden bombs the Houthis, it’s “violation of international law” because the Houthis are the “de facto government of Yemen”. Or at least that was the consensus on Lemmy a couple months back.
Like, I don’t really care. Fuck the Houthis and fuck Israel. But it’s interesting how the Lemmy hivemind picks and chooses who is “the legitimate Yemeni government” based on their personal values.
Even more interesting how you are only capable of seeing things in black and white. Stoning people is bad. Bombing people is also bad.
Most people react to things emotionally, just as you’re doing. So many people will think as you do, “fuck Israel” and this leads people to think that every group in Iran’s “Axis of Resistance” are the good guys. Therefore attacking the Houthis (a part of the Axis of Resistance) is wrong.
Rationalizations that stem from emotion results in some very strange outcomes.
What. Er, I have no idea what the Lemmy “hivemind” thinks on this (and was more or less taking a summer break from Kbin when the US started bombing the Middle East again).
IMO there’s more than one consensus in news Lemmy depending if you’re on .ml or .world and what time of day it is.I was just pointing out that 1) it’s the Houthis, and 2) they seem to be trying to tighten their grip on the population.
These seem like relevant points given the civil war.
For the record I think the situation in Yemen is a travesty and, being super old, I have spent the past 20 years angrily watching as the US drone-bombed Yemeni civilians and ignored warnings that this radicalises people. Biden bombing now is the US military industrial economy business as usual.
I like anyone who is trying to stop a genocide.
@sub_ubi “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”?
I like the act of trying to stop a genocide. That doesn’t make me like other actions by whoever is performing the act.
If your take-away is “this is why it was justified to genocide them” instead of “this is what happens when you genocide them” you’re a monster.
There’s no casual link here. They’re just assholes, all of them.
Your comment makes no sense, how is them stoning gays justifying (or being caused by) a genocide? The Ukrainians arent turning around and stoning their gay population because Russia is invading, its a really nonsensical thing to say.
Have people already forgot the “war” in Yemen?
I think “these are the monsters worthy of being genocided” fits better. Except for the fact that the Houthi’s aren’t being genocided. They’re being retaliated against, because they chose to attack other people. Really is simple as that.
This might be the most disturbing news I’ve read this week. Crucifixion is brutal. People are monsters.
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Yes, the US was supplying weapons (via Saudi Arabia) to the government of Yemen that was fighting these fucking monsters.
But relax, that war is in a ceasefire now, so everything is fine now, right?
The world may not be the black and white simple thing you’ve been led to believe. Most of the time, if you do something, bad things will happen. If you do nothing, bad things will happen. Most of the time any course of action or inaction will have bad results. There are evil people in the world, and the US is not actually the source of all evil in the world. People have been coming up with reasons to do evil shit long before the US existed.
If the US didn’t supply arms to the Yemeni government would things have turned out better? There’s no way to know that. The only thing that’s certain is the Houthis are horrible monsters.
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Imagine stoning people to death for victimless “crimes” and thinking you’re the good guys.
The effects of religion. Moral is tied to obsolete ideals and logic is nowhere to be found.
I’m pretty sure a similar though goes through the heads of every mass murderer.
imagine a world more complicated than a good guys/bad guys dichotomy
There are very few good guys, but about people crucifying people it’s usually safe to say that they are bad.
There are very few good guys, but about people crucifying people it’s usually safe to say that they are bad.
Barbarians.
If you want to know why I’m an atheist.
What kind of entity has 3 different sects of people who all believe this is what it wants?
Religion is a cancer.
Don’t blame the structure for the monsters that abuse it.
The structure was built by monsters. This is the intended use of religion.
You mean the structure that’s completely monster-made?
With all the respect i can muster, you are the one misunderstanding religion’s purpose.
They are not.
If organized religion ever helps humanity at all it is through the good people it inspires to help, the good part of humanity it brings out. The people who focus on that aspect of its tenets would always be good.
But the book(s) and the men who wrote them are as full of power and venom as any other book, and the very idea that one is special by birth is disgusting and small. It is a venal thought shared by the religious and nazis alike.
The cancer is organized religion. There is no bad apple within its core to root, it is itself the problem.
and while the world will never be rid of its mind stifling influence, i will never stop dreaming of the shining day we grow beyond it
You can treat cancer, religion is a parasite that needs to be wiped off the face of the planet.
You can treat cancer but you cannot get rid of it completely. Even treated, cancer is still cancer and could still potentially kill you. Unless, you are able to completely remove it’s existence.
Re-read your comment.
Enthusiastic upvote
Atheists can hate gays too.
The Houthis aren’t the recognized government of Yemen.
They control a large part of the country, and the civil war there is currently in a ceasefire. And of course they’re also attacking shipping in the Red Sea with a back and forth going on with the navies in a coalition led by the US.
But let’s not give these assholes the legitimacy they want by considering them to be the government of Yemen.
They are the legitimate government of Yemen. The decision is not up to you.
So how would you word it differently? It seems that the article is portraying them as a strong power within the nation that is backed by Iran though.
The article’s headline is "Houthis in Yemen will publicly stone & crucify 9 gay men in “gruesome public spectacles”
This is fine. Though the subheader says “The country will imprison or publicly flog 60 other suspected homosexuals”. Should be using words like “the group” or “the faction” not “the country”.
Anyway, the link here is "Yemen will publicly stone & crucify 10 gay men in “gruesome public spectacles”
Not sure the reason for changing it from the headline of the article. Perhaps the linked article did have the same headline as here when OP posted it, and they changed it because of similar feedback I’m making here. Don’t know if OP can change it now. Anyway, it’s been noted in by my comment and other comments, so I guess it’s fine.
Such are the problems inherent in alternative media.
Great now let’s marginalize another community, next will be blind or deaf? And tie it to another nations Americans aren’t supposed to support.
“Remember everyone we have to respect their beliefs…”
Religious freedom can eat my asshole. Abolish it all, especially Abrahamic religions.
So freedom for all except who you decide isn’t worthy?
It’s pretty easy to be a member of an Abrahamic religion and go your entire life without killing anyone.
Don’t blame the structure for the monsters that abuse it.
The only thing that stops them is secular law and punishment. They say this all the time. And while it may be possible to do so it is also improbable that they stop others who do. We have a wide variety of examples of this.
… again how is this different from any abuser who uses their position of authority to get away with horrific acts?
Because they formed a group and conspire to do it and export it to other regions.
The united States of America?
Hahaha… good one…(/s)
But he asked why this was worse.
You mean the structure that’s completely monster-made?
Well there you have it… there’s no way it will be possible to bomb them back to the stone Age.
I forget, aren’t we supposed to be cheering for the Houthis? I thought that was the new cool thing to be doing.
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Source?
How does a small group doing a thing constitute it being the “new cool thing to be doing?”
Also, presumably they’re more concerned about a growing conflagration in the Middle East rather than Houthis in particular dying…
Support them fighting for Palestinian cause: Yes
Support houthis persecuring LGBT: No
Excuse me but “Supporting Palestinian cause”!? They are attacking random trade ships in order to grow political clout and nothing more. Thats like saying because Russia is attacking Ukraine Italy gets to go attack random trade vessels in the Mediterranean. You guys are unable to think beyond headlines.
They are attacking random trade ships in order to grow political clout and nothing more
Source?
A particularly group being right on one issue and wrong on another seems too hard for certain people to grasp.
I guess I’ve never been able to figure out which group of Iranian-backed terrorists are the good guys.
When you support the Houthis you support the stoning of homosexuals.
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When you support the Houthis you support the stoning of homosexuals.
Oh wow, this really woke me up! I actually don’t support the stoning of homosexuals, I’m not a fucking barbarian.
What I support is the bombing of homosexuals so that’s why I support Joe Biden. For bombing Yemeni homosexuals to death, along with Yemeni women and children and Yemeni everyone else. Thank you so much for opening my eyes to the truth.
No.
And if you say it again it’ll still be wrong.
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Critical support. They are useful allies even if they do some fucked up things
Wow, sounds like a Christian utopia.
Were the charges for sodomy? Or did they just arrive at this conclusion just because they liked other men?
Weaponizedreligionsucksshitthroughastrawsayswhat?
