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    Conservatives will complain about broken families rasing kids then vote for wage cuts, force people to have kids and erode public education.

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      The LGBTQ republicans I know (surprise, they really do exist) have their heads in the sand and still think that christian nationalism is just a fringe movement, and that “real” republicans are still Reagan-era professional-fronting assholes who only care about the economy.

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        Of course they exist, Bruce Jenner is always trying to maintain his relevance politically, there’s definitely quite a few other “celebrity” types who are also outspoken gay Republicans, sorry just jot sure why you added that caveat.

        Those Republicans that you know are quite naive about the threat coming for them, and it’s not like the Christian right hasn’t been systematically taking over the Republican party for decades, my go to for this topic is Barry Goldwater’s famous quote:

        Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.

        As well as this quote:

        I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C” and “D.” Just who do they think they are?

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          Bruce Jenner

          Loved your comment overall, but please don’t deadname trans people. Caitlin Jenner is worthy of all your contempt (and more) but openly deadnaming trans people like this emboldens other right wing hypocrites to openly express their own immature hatred of difference against trans people – and it also makes those of us who are NOT Caitlin Jenner, but do count trans people as our equals in every respect, rather uncomfortable when we see it as the disrespect it is toward the rest of the trans community.

          There are many wonderful LGBTQIA+ people in this world. Please narrow the scope of your contempt toward Caitlin Jenner to disinclude them. Thanks for your understanding.

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    I mean, if it works, well just ignore their rules. Stat3s that have enshrined abortion access into their constitution aren’t going to just lay down and take it.

    We will raise hell over this stuff if it actually happens.

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      You’ll get to ignore the laws, but those of us in red states won’t. Please don’t forget to raise hell for us too. “Just move” isn’t always an option.

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      I mean, if it works, we’ll just ignore their rules. States that have enshrined abortion access into their constitution aren’t going to just lay down and take it.

      If they get their way and make it federal law, the fact that it’s enshrined in their state constitutions won’t matter. Just like it didn’t matter that some states had “trigger laws” already on the books long before Roe was overturned. Federal law supersedes state law.

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    Lets double down on our highly unpopular opinions - hey you middle of the road conservatives how are you going to justify voting republican to your LGBTQ friends and family this time?

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      They don’t need to, that’s what propaganda is for! They even get LGBTQ people confused/angry enough to vote against their own best interests!

      Source: Gay cousin voting for Trump because he’s mad about Palestine… (This was before the recent genocide) literally nothing to do with him, happening on the other side of the world, but yeah be mad about that and let wolves into the coup… You’re not a tasty chicken to them if you vote for them… That’s how that works right?

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        cousin voting for Trump because he’s mad about Palestine

        That’s wild, considering Trump went out of his way to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and move the American Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in 2017, the first year of his presidency, thus reigniting hostilities involving same that had been dormant since 1948.

        Because Trump did this – out of the blue and without discernable reason or cause – MANY people, mostly Palestinians, were unnecessarily injured and died in the demonstrations and open violence that followed. People demonstrated around the world to protest this, both before and after the fact: Trump was literally kicking peace accords at the foundation just to watch them crumble, and protests didn’t matter any more than history or peace did to him. He did it anyway, and no one was able to stop him despite the absolute insanity it was to begin with.

        If your cousin gives two shits about Palestine at all, and this pro-Trump position isn’t just performative spite on his part, tell him to read up on this issue. Trump is squarely on the side of “Christian” conservatives trying to force the second coming of Christ, it’s all wrapped up in their bizarre pseudo-Christian mythology, and in the end a vote for Trump is a vote for NO PEACE, ever, anywhere that Netanyahu wants to stretch his own feet.

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        Getting people to vote against their best interest is like the only successful thing Republicans have ever really done on a large scale.

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    Nemo me impune lacessit.

    I certainly hope that “armor for Jesus” is really fucking good when they try to load me onto the trains.

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      Especially when it comes to women, My god the level of vitriol they have towards smart, independent women who want to control their own destiny and not be a house slave to some man 30+ years their senior utterly astonishing, especially since show it so openly and publicly.

      But conservatives have long since abandoned the coded language and quiet talk, so i guess the openness shouldnt shock me anymore… yet it still does.

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    Conservatives Plan to Ban Abortion MORE and Cut LGBT Rights MORE Starting Next January

    Fixed that for you, newrepublic. D’ya see how you missed that? Almost, like, intentionally? Isn’t that weird? That you would sort of paper over the hate like that? Like, “oh in the future the republiQans will surely be wack, yo” wtf.

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      While you’re head’s in the right place, using the word “more” in that manner actually undermines the severity of the headline. If people are living fairly comfortably, and you say MORE of a bad thing is headed their way, they’ll think “well, I’m doing okay so far, I think it’ll be fine”.

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    They’ll have to win the presidency, both houses of Congress and end the filibuster if they want to implement any of these plans. I guess it’s possible but unlikely. They could have done that in the first two years of Trump’s presidency if it really mattered to them. But all they really want is corporate tax cuts.

    It’s important to keep news about these plans circulating though. Having a large anti-Trump turnout is the one thing that ensures they never get a chance to implement their agenda.

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      They’ll have to win the presidency, both houses of Congress and end the filibuster if they want to implement any of these plans.

      No they won’t. Trump will do as much as he can through executive orders, backed by a cabinet full of sycophants, a Supreme Court willing to back him up, and various state governments (Most notably, states like Florida and Texas) gleefully willing to march in lockstep. Anything that has to be done through Congress will be done via a pressure campaign of essentially grinding the government to a halt until the Democrats cave in and give them what they want (see the now-shuttered immigration bill that almost got passed as an example), which has been a strategy that has been proven effective for decades.

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          They won’t have to.

          Their plan is to shutter things at the federal level. Blue states won’t have a say in the matter. Their goal is to shutter agencies like the Department of Education. Their goal is to close DE&I programs at the federal level.

          Sure, states can still do things like run a Head Start or fund their school meals programs if they want to. But how many states would be able to without the federal funds that currently support those programs? How many states would be willing to go through the effort? Or even able to?

          None of this would need the support of blue states. They can just gut the funding and watch the state level programs shrivel up on their own.

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              Yes. Because then they can turn the army’s guns on the blue states with impunity. I’m pretty sure it’s why they float the idea among their base; so we hear it too, and it stays in our minds.

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          police in california are already brazenly violating California state law by sending license plate tracking info to red states. expect more and worse.

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            And for some reason California isn’t disarming and discharging them. The police there are acting as a hostile occupier opposing democratically decided rules.

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      The number of liberals who prefer to go whistling past the graveyard in the face of bold faced statements from the right is amazing.

      I don’t think that can conceive of a world where police and other authorities will not only fail to have your safety and best interests at heart but will be actively trying to suppress and eliminate voices and supporters on the left.