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I liked John Stewart’s recent bit on this. He showed Biden talking super slow and un focused, and spent 5 minutes ripping on him. When you think Biden is thoroughly trashed he then shows a clip of trump saying “you can pour water on magnets to end them.” And suddenly you remember who the competition is.
Here’s the problem I don’t want to play the dementia olympics for the president…
The fact that DNC insists that Biden is the only one they have that can beat trump should scare the shit out of you. That basically guarantees an authoritarian in the next 8 years because the republicans have a deep back bench of ghouls to replace trump when he dies.
And I’m just saying if trump wins and we can’t defeat his geriatric thug version of fascism, then America will just fall to the next charismatic fascist wanna be that stumbles by.
I mean the reason they’re so certain Biden is their best bet is the incumbent effect, which is REALLY HARD to beat. I think AOC is like the main example of someone being able to beat a big wig incumbent and she had some pretty extraordinary circumstances and personal talent to make that happen.
I’m just crossing my fingers that Whitmer goes for it next time because she seems like she’s got a lot of credential to her portfolio already.
I get the incumbent effect, but it only goes so far… Much like the “well for all his faults, to any sane person he’s clearly better than his opponent” effect.
I hope the democrats get their shit figured out and have someone they can push, but history shows they are bunglers…
How would the dems running someone else mean the repubs be suddenly decent?
The idea of a second trump term scares me.
As it should, I’m saying the republicans will not get better, they’ve got a roster of worse already in fact.
That the democrats are so convinced that Biden is the only one from their party who can beat trump, is a terrifying, because I don’t know what charismatic demon the republicans are going to run next, but if Biden is the best they’ve got we’re fucked.
The fact that the American system can’t rid itself of a virus as decrepit and criminal as trump is a warning that whoever replaces him will waltz in without hassle…
On the (admittedly dim) bright side, there does seem to be something genuinely unique about Trump. I think at least part of it is that he was in everyone’s living room for years, lording over celebrities on The Apprentice. There’s already quite a bit of hero worship built into the American psyche regarding celebrities, and he pretty well set himself up as a celebeity among celebrities with that show. Combine that with him telling everyone it’s ok to embrace that darkness and hate inside everyone else tells them to be ashamed of, and its a powerful combo. The Republicans have mastered the art of that same hate, but everyone but Trump seems to miss the mark.
The irony of them being so hateful that LGBTQ feel comfortable coming out now while simultaneously loving this feeling of being able to show off the real them would almost be funny if it weren’t so harmful.
America didn’t learn from Raygun’s 8 years of ‘trickle-down’ hilarity. ‘Great communicator’ of what? Old celebrites might be popular, and make useful PR figureheads (after all, they’re experts at play-acting). But (surprise!) usually make crappy leaders out here in the (more real) world.
DNC should just pick Jon Stewart or Tom Hanks or somebody. The previous president demonstrated that there are no qualifications beyond people liking you.
People act like he was a warning sign for why unqualified people shouldn’t be president, but I kinda took it the other way around. If Trump, who is both incomprehensibly stupid and actively malicious, trying to hurt the country as much as he could, could manage to have his damage so limited, even with Republicans enabling him all over the place, then it stands to reason that anyone who is genuinely acting in good faith and wants to do the job well can manage it pretty okay, especially if they’re ready to listen to available experts on everything.
I think most of us -are- pretty terrified already, and we can debate about what should be all day, but it won’t change what’s happening right now.
Why don’t we debate what -should be- next year, and then be active about making it happen before we find ourselves in this position again in 4 years?
If America can’t withstand the thuggish authoritarian incompetence of what trump promises, then it is only a waiting game to our inevitable fall to fascism.
Burying our heads in the sand an hoping for the best won’t make that inevitable future any less inevitable…
I hope Biden wins, but we’re just swirling the drain, we can make it take longer but we’re falling in that dark hole.
The next one won’t be a wannabe.
Average senate member age.
Nailed it.
Now I want to see a deepfake video of Biden saying, “when 900 years old you reach, look as good, you will not” in his normal voice.
I’ll settle for someone throwing Trump into a bottomless pit.
Palpatine is a stupid bitch. Just wait for him to shoot his dumb ass lightening and then reverse it on him.
HE ALWAYS FALLS FOR IT
Yoda didn’t live long after that picture was taken…
Palpatine can solve the climate crisis with green free UNLIMITED POWER
And Yoda can store that energy to release it on demand
Finally, bipartisanship
Yoda is dead, though. Palps is never going to die because Disney has an unlimited supply of cocaine for their braindead writers.
Don’t you worry, dead Yoda is still a character
You’re right. Fine, he has my vote.
I love democracy.
Isn’t there a younger Sith that we can support?
Wasn’t Palpatine a perfectly normal age for a human politician? I mean, he ate his own Force Lightning to the face and only came out looking like a melted wax statue.
Whereas Yoda being three days older than dirt legitimately did cause problems… Among them, Palpatine.
He would’ve been relatively normal aged in episode 3 but by the time of Yoda’s death he was geriatric.
Also pretty sure his “deformation” was due to his corruption from the dark side and he simply hid it using sith powers and used the force lightning thing as a ploy to help make him seem like a victim
If that is legit cannon and not a retcon they wrote it as if it were a retcon. Which is equally dum.
If follows the extended universe which used to be canon before Disney bought the franchise.
In the original canon the dark side corrupts everything it touches. The more you use the dark side the more it corrupts you physically. Most dark side users were deformed in some way (think the yellow eyes) but palpatine learned a way to hide that disfiguration from his master plagueis.
It’s all actually explained relatively well in the extended universe.
Basically Lucas did stupid shit, nerds who took it way more serious then him fixed it in books…then Disney threw away the books.
Yeah pretty much
I stand by what I say. They could have added that detail very easily in the prequels and would have been great cover for Palpatine.
I agree honestly. But the same could be said about a lot of things in movies Star Wars included.
I know nothing about extended star wars lore but figured his appearance was from the dark side. Maybe it was covered or heavily alluded to in the movies? It’s been a while
The entire star wars universe is constructed on retcons. Ever heard of the ship so fast it made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs?
three days older than dirt
😝
Also Yoda dies like 3 days after this. And Palpatine lives for 30 more years. Somehow.
And then 30 years after that he came back as a ghost of himself. Sound in mind and uh… force ghost body… too. Dude was able to simultaneously pilot an entire fleet of Star Destroyers with his background thoughts.
Honestly, I’m warming to the whole Darth Sidious for President thing. He might be my dark horse third party favorite.
Yoda never did a genocide.
Yeah, awful meme
He did lead enslaved child soldiers who were literally bred to be slave soldiers though
Are you insisting I need to have empathy for clones now, too? Ughhh.
That we know of …
He was the only one of his kind and never elaborated on what happened to the others…
Not the only one. Yaddle was another member of his species and was also a council member.
Their species was just rare and discrete.
Yes, yaddle, his girlfriend from another school that lives in space Canada.
That’s what Yoda wants you to believe.
There’s also Grogu, who is a major character in The Mandalorian.
At opposed to his continuous colleagues, whom we don’t see because they know how to be discreet.
Y’know, the funniest part about you correcting me is, I looked it up and discrete is actually a better term for their species, than my intended discreet.
“have you heard him speak? Obviously the dude is mental”
Ooh yay, the ‘Guess Which Politician’ game!
Final guess, all of them? Theyre all old ass ducks
biden is not comparable to yoda though.
star wars is an allegory to the vietnam war. the US is the empire.
Star Wars is often “Schrödinger’s Political Allegory” - the Empire is British/Roman/German but also American (if Endor = Vietnam, and Jedha = the Middle East), but the Rebels are somehow American too. Whatever side you’re on, you can use Star Wars to cast yourself as the good guy, and the other side as the baddies.
the rebels are supposed to be vietnam
I realise that Lucas has said that the ewoks in Return of the Jedi were representations of the North Vietnamese. If you look at Rogue One, though, Saw’s men are called terrorists, they use IEDs, it’s a desert environment … so the Rebels are, um, ISIS? Who do we want to win again?
Star Wars has always been too flakey to say Rebels are definitely this, or the the Empire are definitely that. It’s popularity, and it’s use by people on any part of the political spectrum as a a recruitment tool, depends on the fact that the US is magically both.
to be fair the new trilogy went a bit off rails lol
mostly because Disney did not understand the origional, and it is not in their interst to paint the US as baddies so it lost the political message
Yoda was blind to the rise of fascism and got overrun by the emperor. He also supported a questionable system that clearly had lots of issues for hundreds of years.
You’re overthinking things again.
Nah, Lucas confirmed it.
While interviewing Lucas on AMC in 2018, James Cameron said, “The good guys are the rebels. They’re using asymmetric warfare against a highly organized empire. I think we call those guys ‘terrorists’ today. We call them ‘mujahideen.’ We call them Al-Qaeda.”
Lucas agreed with Cameron, adding, “When I did it, they were Viet Cong.” He explained that the Vietnam allegory was front and center in his mind when making the original “Star Wars” in the mid-1970s, as was the American Revolution.
Again, shows you how much Lucas knows about history. The Mujahideen were allied with the US during the Soviet-Afghan war.
thinking is a good thing.
Star Wars isn’t an allegory to the Vietnam War. That’s just something Lucas said to sound smart. At no point during the plot of the OG trilogy does it draw parallels to any of the real world events in the Vietnam War.
the metaphors are all on point imo
It’s only because American Democracy is dead and burried that there are no other choices than these two geriatics.
Healthy and trully Democratic systems naturally respond to a situation such as this by having more choices.
… which many countries don’t have, because ‘First Past the Post’ systems naturally lead to only 2 viable choices.
They’ll also be an election coming up soon in the UK - I can choose between ‘Sensible Conservative’ or the currently ruling ‘Lunatic Conservative’, but anything else would be a wasted vote.
Oh yeah, I lived in the UK for over a decade, right after having lived in The Netherlands (who have Proportional Vote) for almost a decade, and am well aware of just how horribly rigged the British voting and political system are, especially after Brexit (which I saw first hand, after which I did my own personal Leave of a country I, frankly, see no positive future for)
My own country, Portugal, has it’s own rigged system that gives nice 15% boosts to representativeness versus actual votes received, for the 2 major parties, though fortunatly it’s not just one seat per electoral circle, so whilst nowhere as Democratic as PV at least there are 8 parties with parliamentary representation, small parties still get half the parliamentarians that their votes would’ve yielded under PV (unlike in the UK where the Green Party gets 1 million votes in 40 million - so 2.5% of votes - and ends up with 1 seat in 600 - so about 0.15% of seats), and even with the rigging the upcoming elections (next month) do not seem on track to yield a parliamentary majority for any one party.
Somewhere between -‘anything else is a wasted vote’ and ‘leftists who refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils are enabling fascism’ - is political leverage to push for better policy.
That leverage doesn’t exist when the majority of Americans have an IQ under 95.
Republican alaska instituted a four candidate IRV system. Its bonkers that people aren’t talking about reforming the US presidential election system to something similar. Not to mention a national initiative system. I know these would require constitutional amendments but it doesn’t require an amendment to talk about it.
A constitutional amendment isn’t necessary to achieve a substantial part of what’s necessary for presidential election reform. States choose how to allocate their electors, and could choose to do so proportionally. At least two states already do this. If even just a few key states allocated electors proportionally, the biggest problems with presidential elections would be addressed, specifically, candidates winning the election despite losing the popular vote.
Allocating electors proportionally is probably the easiest path to more sensible elections because states already control this, but more importantly, it’s an easy sell to citizens. Convincing citizens of a state to allocate all electors based on the national popular vote despite how its citizens vote is really difficult - no one wants their electoral power to go to a candidate they don’t like. The approach has been to get a group of state to agree.
In contrast, convincing citizens to allocate their state’s electors proportionally is fairly easy - no one wants their electoral power to go to a candidate they don’t like. Support for that doesn’t need multiple states to agree. It can proceed individually, and each time it passes, there’s an immediate effect. The most important places would be large swing states. It would probably only take Florida, Ohio and Michigan to prevent any realistic chances of an unpopular candidate winning. But you don’t need them per se. You could target Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and a few others. Even if just a few states agree, the impact would be very large.
Antiques Roadshow… anyone know what I’m talking about? Woot woot! :-P
All I know is that following this logic, Trump must militarize seagulls:
Biden has a stick!
