• AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    7 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    If you’ve ever seen a Steam Deck playing a Legend of Zelda game, chances are you were seeing the Yuzu emulator at work.

    It also wants to take away its domain names, URLs, chatrooms, and social media presence; hand yuzu-emu.org over to Nintendo; and even seize and destroy its hard drives to help wipe out the emulator.

    While there’s legal precedent that suggests it’s okay to reverse engineer a console and develop an emulator that uses none of the company’s source code, those cases are roughly a quarter of a century old or more — it gets trickier when we’re talking about multiple layers of modern encryption and the copyrighted BIOSes that Yuzu and other modern emulators require to run.

    DMCA Section 1201(a)(2) bans products “primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access” to a copyrighted work.

    “The important thing is that Nintendo is bringing the case as a DMCA circumvention claim,” says Richard Hoeg, a business attorney who hosts the Virtual Legality podcast.

    Many small bands of developers have axed their projects after being approached by Nintendo, and it wouldn’t be surprising if Yuzu settled.


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    I pirated BotW and TotK and others

    Which made my brother buy a Switch and TotK and Mario Kart and a Nintendo Online subscription and aaaa…

    Piracy increases sales, goddammit. Literally free advertising.

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    It needs to work both ways then. Nintendo needs to pay for all the free advertisement that emulators provide.

    Anytime I mess with an emulator and play an old game it triggers nostalgia. I then purchase new software and hardware from the company it belongs to.

    This is some shady shit that Nintendo is pulling.

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      7 months ago

      I totally bought stardew valley and recommened this game a bunch of times to people after “trying” it. In fact, I have bought it twice on PC, once on Switch, and on iOS.

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      Streisand effect in action. I am never going to buy anything Nintendo, because they’re a dog-shit company. I hadn’t realised a Switch emulator existed. Andddd… My wife would really like to play Pikmin 4.

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        7 months ago

        There’s actually two Switch emulators. Ryujinx is the other one. I’ve tried both and they’re both solid options.

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          I found that yuzu is more stable while Ryujinx is able to calculate uncached shaders a lot faster, which is great for playing Smash Ultimate, since I couldn’t get online shadercaches to work correctly. I overall prefer Ryujinx, but both are very solid.

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        Yep all you need to do is find a copy of the firmware (you actually can get the latest firmware from the internet archive) and the decryption keys (they’re a little bit more difficult to find, can’t remember where I got them from, but it took a long time for me to find a working download)

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          I never figured this out. When I play switch games it’s always a version that bundles the emulator with it and has all the keys and bios crap already configured.

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          7 months ago

          There are tons of sites that host switch firmware and “prod keys” for it as well. You need the keys for playing games on the switch natively as well.

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          You might also ask nicely for folks to send you theirs. Especially since Nintendo is going after Yuzu, I’m sure there’s plenty of folks that would volunteer keys via DM just to stick it to Nintendo…

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          Or just download a FitGirl repack of any Switch game and you don’t have to worry about any firmware/decryption nonsense. Just install and play.

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            I’ve wondered about those. Don’t they get outdated as the emulators become more developed? I’m assuming it’s packed with whichever version was the latest stable release at the time.

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              Yes but you can always just update the emulator yourself. If you’re playing the latest games then you’re usually using a more up-to-date version anyway.

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        7 months ago

        They are up to 4 already‽ I mean I never really kept up with a game I started at the second entry and wasn’t particularly good at at the time but still…

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      7 months ago

      How do you do this? Just fork it? I don’t know much about GitHub (and alternatives)

  • buckykat [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    Sony v Bleem ended with victory in court for Bleem, but it also ended with Bleem out of money and out of business. Nintendo doesn’t have to have a legal leg to stand on to practically win, just a big pile of money which they definitely do have.

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      7 months ago

      git clone https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu.git

      If the developers settle or lose the suit and have to take down the code, at least you’ll still be able to compile all the old releases.

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    7 months ago

    Devs have to give up, companies have limitless funding for these things while people don’t

    They have anti-piracy measures in the emulator though and it’s not like it’s any more difficult to play pirated games on the Switch. So this is sad to see

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      7 months ago

      The Switch facilitated piracy of Switch games because the games only exist because of the hardware.

      I sure hope Nintendo sues those filthy Switch people out of existence!

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    You know why I played the games on yuzu? It’s because the joycons suck and they are expensive to replace.

    I did the stick drift repair on my own, but the L and R buttons are soldiered to the main board so it can’t be repaired.

    I bought a right joycon on its own and then the next week the left joycon had the same issue.

    I wasn’t going to spend about $90 for an unreliable controller when an entire steamdeck costs $500.

    It really paints the picture that the controllers are way over priced how can they alone be 20% the cost of the entire steamdeck.

    If Nintendo made decent joycons, then I would not be using Yuzu.

    Additionally, I dumped my own games and keys, so they got their money and through some effort, I got a better experience.

    I’d like to add that the joycons were not heavily used either.

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      Why didn’t you just get a better controller? You would have saved yourself a lot of time, effort, and probably money.

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        I’m not in the US, so the options I had here were either expensive or didn’t have any reviews.

        I’ve been wanting a steamdeck for some time and that is what pushed me to get one.

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        A lot of modern controllers are really ass tbh. I still use a wired usb xbox 360 controller. Doesn’t work on Switch without modding/hacking/emulating.

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          You are stuck two decades ago in time. There are plenty of good to great controllers. Shit, there’s multiplatform controllers that work perfectly and have all the bells and whistles and gyros that first party controllers have.

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            True, I bet there good ones out there, but I have no need to replace it yet.

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              But you’ll complain about using twenty year old technology anyways, and make up nonsense about current tech. Ok.

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                I’m complaining about manufacturers cheaping out, not the age of the tech I’m using.

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                  But you are wrong. A lot of modern controllers are not ass. The Switch controllers are. That’s it.

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          I’m also in the “my USB Xbox 360 controller is great” camp and wish that they still made them

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      Not for you since you’ve exited the Switch, but for anyone else with stick drift: Gulikit makes replacement hall effect joycon sticks that do not drift. Easy to replace and inexpensive.

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      Unfortunately, PS5 controllers have the same issue. Slightly cheaper, but same exact shitty parts for the joystick. Going to try aftermarket (with serviceable parts) for my next one.

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      Joycon drift is the main reason why I stopped playing my switch.

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      Your situation is not applicable to why the lawsuit exists.

      It’s the idiots that pirated and leaked TOTK a week before the release date that gave Nintendo ammunition for this case. As a result, everybody who is using Yuzu legitimately will suffer for it.

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      I’ve been eyeing Yuzu to play games like Pokemon Scarlet and Xenoblade 3 since they both run like shit on the switch and a smooth 60 fps at 4k on Yuzu.

      I bought both games at release, I just can’t stand playing at 20 fps.

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    Nintendo is basically saying that they are guilty of enabling piracy.

    That same argument would paint gun makers as guilty of enabling murder and crime. Nintendo should really be going after rom sharing sites. That’s totally legit, but not the emulation devs.

    If they have a fund for legal costs I’ll donate.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    If murder were legally, I know a place less than a day away from my current locations that I’d love to visit.

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        At this point, there’s no other way to stop things like this from happening other than murdering the rich and all their family and associates. So, no, I ain’t calming down until they’re 600 feet under the ground, resting in piss.

        • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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          7 months ago

          “We need a revolution! Eat the rich!”

          Someone suggests doing something towards that goal

          “Noooooo, I only care about injustices as a hobby!!! Don’t actually, plz!”