Dead? Maybe not. Dead inside? Definitely.
Kinda feel post API killing, frontpage post comments have jumped dramatically.
Unfortunately, it’s extremely bot-like. Like AI talking to AI and chains and chains of memes/jokes. No real discussion.
Repost bots (and repost top comment bots) are pretty rampant. A lot of subs have changed pretty significantly because their entire mod team left. In general I get the sense it’s a lot more people now who consider reddit “social media” compared to before. Site isn’t dead for sure but it’s gone down in quality significantly.
had a vibrant sub with @ 50,000 participants, new content every day. now it’s literally full of spam, no engagement, and the ‘mod’ appears to have fled after taking Spez’s offer to take over.
so that’s satisfying :D
It’s not
aw someone misses spezdaddy :D
It’s not satisfying that it was ruined
well… I disagree.
They had it all. They had all the keys to the kingdom, all they needed to do was listen. And when they decided otherwise, they’ve lost a tremendous amount of mods and community, so… I’d rather see them humbled. If they were rewarded with success for their bad actions that would be unsatisfying. But it is sad; but the web will grow and change. There was /., then digg, then reddit, now lemmy / fediverse… imho, each step is an improvement in some senses. Hopefully it will continue to grow.
Conjuction fallacy. You only focus on your satisfaction and not on your own bigger reason for why
Seeing reddit spiral into enshittification is satisfying to me, and that’s all I assert. I never asserted it would be asserting for everyone, much less you.
I call this: the mojofrodojo conundrum: you assume I think you’re real, and can experience satisfaction. or care. life is funny that way.
You can feel satisfaction over enshittification and still understand that humanity lost something. It’s a simple fallacy nothing to cry about honestly
Considering im one of the top 35,000 most active users on reddit yet havent used the site since July last year, I cant see why
I did notice Lemmy has s lot more comments and votes recently
Lemmy really has increased in traffic over the time I’ve been here.
For all intents and purposes it’s the exact same experience as the other place for me.
I see less repeated jokes as top level comments here.
‘Fewer’
Potato/potuber
No. Wrong / correct.
sorry buddy but you’re wrong
the notion of “correct” and “incorrect” made up language is silly
‘Less’ is for stuff that isn’t individually countable, like milk, or bulk rice. ‘Fewer’ is for things that one could count individually; glasses of milk, or grains of rice.
It’s ok to use language accurately. Don’t be afraid.
Meh, whatever you say oh arbiter of casual conversation.
Kissies
And fewer people quoting entire Simpsons episodes at each other line by line
Yeah, we recreate entire Monty Python sketches and movies one comment at a time instead.
Still annoying but an improvement
Oh they are here, they are just in a different instance.
There are fewer kids here.
Yes, everything that could possibly be posted and discussed has been done. Humanity has officially run it’s course, that is the only explanation for a reduction in the amount of content on Reddit.
I knew it. Wrap it up, we’re going home
Well done everyone, it was kinda horrible
There were cat memes. It wasn’t all bad.
Don’t forget the Sugar Free Haribo reviews.
Sure, some of those would have been in a local newspaper or something and possibly collected in a book akin to “Strange Red Cow”, but that was a beautiful moment of people going “This makes you violently shit yourself? I gotta try this”.
It had its moments
Congratulations. You have reached the end of the internet.
Finally!
Do we turn the tape over and now begin from side B?
Use an 8-track tape.
Suddenly I understand how non-americans feel when Americans discuss world issues.
*its
Monty Python’s Flying Circus!
Wow, I even hear the music playing in my head when I read that.
I almost added *Liberty Bell March starts playing*. Happy to see it wasn’t necessary.
That would be better than the extremely “interesting” future that awaits us
Yeah i feel like chicken little sometimes just watching other folks going about their business like shits not actually going down right in front of us.
Tbf our future technologically is pretty wild too, so if you’re in a developed country and rampant inflation hasnt made you homeless, there likely cool extreme changes to go alongside the horrifying ones!
The mod strikes and closing of all the meme subs ended them more than they wanna admit. There’s very few memes on there now especially making it to all. Second part is no one wastes time commenting when even an innocent opinion will get your account banned. Waste of time for consumers and contributors equally.
I said (in a relevant thread) that Turkish people in Europe have many more kids as European natives… Now I’m a nazi and my 12yo account got banned, no warning.
There’s obviously context to that comment that we’re not seeing here, but while that statement is not in itself racist, it is something that racist people tend to also say.
Yes it is. But talking about actual facts and getting banned without any recourse, especially when they cna literally click my name and see not a single nazi thing… I hate extreme left and extreme right!
So no checkup no manner of arbitrage, just ban for ever. And also ban any new account I made… For one single mention of a proven fact by numerous official sources = perma ban on all my accounts. Thanks reddit.
12YO?! You are also a pedophile, SIR!
Huh, now that you mention it. Yeah I guess so. I wonder what happened?
Because Reddit is SOSDD.
The Front Page used to have a pretty steady turnover of content with lots of interaction. Now I find it stagnating, the same stuff sitting up front for days sometimes. I’ve hit /all sometimes, but that’s a dumpster fire of burning garbage. I get that everyone can do their own thing on Reddit (to some extent), but too much of that content is just a mess. Reposts, scripted, repetitive themed askreddit, and the responses are all the same too. Tired quips and witticisms, there’s far too little conversation, and if someone does respond to something you say it’s far more likely to be someone being pedantic, contradictory, or picking apart your argument with exceptions or manufactured situations.
Yeah, some niche communities are still great and provide good places to share and talk about a subject, but the main subs, all, and the like just suck these days.
For the niche communities: you can say that about Facebook as well.
The big question is, what do we do about this? Do the communities need to make their own websites?
Probably move here. Despite Reddit’s IPO I think it’s too late and gone stale. Unless there’s a massive change to give it more staying power it’s probably going to wither like Xwitter or Digg.
Where did you find this image and why are you trying to pass it off as new news?
The post is nowhere to be found.
The user has deleted their account.
Whenever this post was made, it certainly wasn’t 8 hours ago.
This post is already a day old, and the imaged was at least 8h before that.
I was able to see the post following that first link you posted, it was the first post that popped up though yeah the user did delete their account, it was originally posted 6 months ago
“Begun, the Forum Wars have.” /yoda
Now, let’s identify the Reddit bots/astroturfers that are here polluting Lemmy so that people go back to Reddit.
I see a lot less men over there than before
What? How would you know? Is this some reference I don’t understand?
Nowadays all the men are weak, and redditors. How Surreal remembers old Reddit, it was full of lumberjacks and greasy auto mechanics.
It’s just not what it used to be.
No idea what happens over there longer…lemmy is the perfect replacement, wasn’t on reddit since last summer and lost interest
Lemmy is not the perfect replacement but with some work it can become better. It could use some improved tooling, I want the ability to follow other users, and there’s always room for improvement with the apps.
I could do with a guide on how to start a community to try bringing over a couple of the niche subs I used to love.
I’ve never really wanted to mod, but I know I have to be the change I want to see.
I agree with you there. I imagine Lemmy doesn’t have it nearly so bad yet, but it was sad finding a cool-sounding subreddit that was positively littered with spam.
With like one post saying “So is there anything relevant about the topic here?”
You could tell there was an idea there but it needs gardening. I’m honestly surprised there is such a high percentage of people willing to be active, unpaid mods on some of those higher traffic subs!
I feel the same way about some of the subs that I’d like to see on here as well. I just worry about how to gain traction. Like how to get more people to engage and actually use the community. Is it just random people stumbling across it? Or is there a better way.
Like how to get more people to engage and actually use the community.
When you create it, populate it with as many posts that you can, that are original/legit, before announcing it to the public.
When someone shows up and they see a new sub and there’s no posts they just leave and never come back.
Then I would try to figure out a way of advertising it on Reddit, letting them know that the Lemmy equivalent exists. I’m not sure Reddit will allow you to get away with that, but that would be important to do.
But most importantly, you got to ‘prime the pump’, you have to make it look like it’s already got traction, it’s already got attention, before announcing it to the world.
I’m not sure what’s up with the front page algorithms too. It should be moving way faster - I see almost the same posts there day to day but if I go to each community there’s tons of new stuff.
Lemmy.world is still running Lemmy 0.18.x and will soon upgrade to 0.19.x and 0.19 has scaled sorting.
Improved Post Ranking There is a new scaled sort which takes into account the number of active users in a community, and boosts posts from less-active communities to the top. Additionally there is a new controversial sort which brings posts and comments to the top that have similar amounts of upvotes and downvotes
I mean it’s not like Lemmy replaces Reddit for me, but like a nicotine plaster compared to a cigarette, it does quell the craving.
lol can’t believe that sub exists
Nope, OOP guessed it in one. Everything there is to post has already been posted. Close it down, guys, there’s nothing left to post. Internet’s done.
Reddit isn’t dead. There’s plenty of posts and traffic, way more than here. The problem is that that quality has plummeted. Bots posting divisive political shit, bad memes, and toxic commenters. Angry people spurred on by bots and no valuable discussion
Don’t forget reposting like crazy.
That was literally always the case, and frankly it was not nearly as big a problem as people made it out to be.
Also, the front page is basically broken, so the traffic on the site isn’t being directed to content in the same way it used to be.
Basically, the site was very different when “Hot” was the way most people experienced the front page.
Now it’s… whatever fucking curated bullshit and “Best” which is all just terrible.
You forgot about the automated dms and emails begging users to buy stock at their IPO to inflate it’s value
foreal?
elll oh el
I just got it on an old throwaway account that I forgot to delete. But not as a DM as others, but as an email.
You are receiving this email because a Reddit account, [redacted], is registered to this email address.
And you can be sure that I checked off every box that you let me, so that I wouldnt receive unsolicited mails… By the way, I’m not even eligible for the IPO and you shpuld know it, reddit.
As anything with Reddit, it depends on what you subscribe.
It’s perfectly possible that this person sees the site completely dead. Personally, every time I go there it’s full of interesting comics raised by some bots that keep reposting old things, and really really bad comments, but still plentiful.
They made some algorithm changes a bunch of years ago (2015?), and migrated away from the concept of “default subs”. The front page drew from every sub with an algorithm.
TheDonald was very good at understanding and abusing that algorithm, resulting in it overrunning the front page for everyone. They had to tweak it a bunch as a result.
IMO, this resulted in a great homogenization of communities. People participate in communities without really understanding the communities. Why should they? The “community” is just “the Reddit front page”.
As soon as any community gets popular enough to hit the front page, it becomes hive-minded, predictable, and bland.
Lemmy actually has this same structural problem… Evidenced by the fact that as I write this comment, I actually have no clue what community this post is in.
I think Lemmy just hasn’t been overrun w/ bots (yet), isn’t being as heavily invested in by bad faith foreign state actors (yet), and is mostly composed of people who moved from Reddit who want to actively participate in a way to keep it from having that same Reddit “flavour”.
Just my take.
I don’t think the Donald was abusing the algorithm. It was literally the most popular sub, it was always on the front page because it’s posts were getting massively and constantly upvoted. Changing the algorithm instead of waiting it out or just straight banning it ruined the site.
They tried to stand impartial (my most generous interpretation of reddits in-action towards the donald) and it really fucked them.
It’s so weird how many platforms cater to harmful rhetoric in an effort to stay neutral only for them to later ban the community after the damage has been done.
If I were more conspiratorial I’d suggest the Donald survived for as long as it did on purpose and with the explicit support of the reddit admins/execs…
No shit. They didn’t have the balls to ban a sub with that many members when they should have. The damage all really came from half assing a solution.
Or alternatively, they could have done nothing at all like the orginal mission statement entailed
Omg a little anecdote to add on to your point. I made a post on a news article about how people blindly follow name brands. It was only after a few blindly ehh and some other comments along those lines I realized I was on a blind community thread. Real foot in mouth moment lol. It was taken well enough when I explained my mistake and apologized. Got some good info too about the community.
LMAO, thank you for sharing that story. Must have been painful, but the story gave me a good laugh!
I definitely felt like an ass, but everyone was a good sport about it. We all used it as good learning opportunity because the thought had never crossed my mind about a blind lemmy community/instance. They even invited and insisted I followed some communities. All in all it was a good experience from a dumb mistake.
As soon as any community gets popular enough to hit the front page, it becomes hive-minded, predictable, and bland.
People participate in communities without really understanding the communities.
Not against you specifically but this is why I don’t tell people about communities anymore. The quality declines the more people participate.
I just went there, I also noticed that most of the posts on top of r/all are sub 10K upvotes, most sub 5K. However, when I sorted by Top/Today then I saw there were a lot of posts that were over 30K upvotes. Maybe it’s change in algorithm and how they show posts.
BUT, i went to Top All Time, and all of the posts there were at the earliest from 3 years ago, a lot from 5-7years ago too so it rules out the pandemic effect. Looks like reddit may have indeed passed its prime.
Yeah Reddit is awesome like that, but have you ever tried posting something on lemmygrad by accident?
They are weird superficial sensationalized feel-good posts. It’s was a thing before, but now it feels more contrived. Front page feels hollow.
I feel like Lemmy is getting more argumentative, especially when anything related to the Isreal/Palestine conflict (in that particular case it seems to be consistently people making bad faith arguments on both sides going back and forth)
I was initially drawn to Reddit as a place that offered nuanced conversation. I even used to engage with toxic takes if nothing less than to discredit their take. It’s a complete dumpster fire of toxic ass hats now - not worth commenting within as it’s becoming more and more of a conservative echo chamber.
Bots posting divisive political shit, bad memes, and toxic commenters. Angry people spurred on by bots and no valuable discussion
To be fair, that happens here as well.
There’s a meta problem, of all the public squares being polluted by what you described, to the point where they’re not usable anymore for discussion. Something that screams for legislation, but it’s hardly spoken of.
It would help if they didn’t ban people. I got permabanned for nothing. I posted some timing not permitted on World News, and then made a new account to ask a personal question and accidentally posted something on World News with this new account and was banned for deliberately trying to evade a ban.
Just stupid. I guess they don’t need people on reddit.
