What is demanded of us is same or more than in non-feminist countries, and what we get back is less. Passed over for jobs (entire sectors that used to be open for everyone), much lower priority in healthcare (including psychiatric) and our rights in front of a court are now nearly non-existant, since a feminist parliament writes laws for feminist courts.
Don’t be like Sweden. Reject feminism
Feminism is an aggression against men. The notion that it would save you from having to be a guy is a lie. You’re still a guy. Just worth less.
No, you already know it now, you’ve just gone off the deep-end into incel territory. Women have had it worse than men in the vast majority of societies in modern history, and continue to.
Like I said, you assume equality is an attack on your position, because your position is privledged.
What is demanded of us is same or more than in non-feminist countries
Why are you being coy about which “demands” you object to? Unless you tell us what they are, they could easily mean things like “having to contribute to cooking, cleaning and child rearing” or “needing consent to help yourself to a woman’s body”.
I’m not sure if you’ve peered outside your little bubble lately, but more is demanded of women too. They’re expected not only to hold down a full time job but an entire career too. And oh look, they’re passed over for jobs, offered less money and forced to work twice as hard for recognition, all because of their gender.
So if you’re going to use the rhetoric of a bitter man-child who is upset their grandfathers “I work full time” excuse doesn’t work on people who are also working full time, you can at least pretend you’re pulling your weight first.
Because your comment isn’t just melodramatic, it’s outright bullshit.
It is nice honestly – it’s a nice reminder that while we disagree, we aren’t that different. We agree on the basics. As opposed to the dregs of society we need to always unite against.
Oh no! You can’t display your hateful, backwards-ass views on someone else’s computer anymore? You’re SO oppressed. Oh, you have to compete in the workplace with BOTH men AND women now? Ugh, you poor thing. Women have a say in the the creation of laws and distribution of justice? You don’t say, how terrible!
I guess men would perceive “less worth” now, compared to women … but that’s kinda how equality works. What sucks is that there is a “swing to it” that kinda hurts men, on an individual basis. Like custody rulings, or mental health care, for example. Because lo and behold, the patriarchy was never a means to lift men up, but an excuse to limit the power of those “not like them”.
The patriarchy is a system that hurts us us all, while using women as the scapegoat. It’s a tale as old as time; using division to prevent union amongst the majority. (A lot more to that, but we’re skimming the footnotes here)
Fuck -ism’s… understand that we’re all bitching about the same things, and it all kinda boils down to a class inequality. Be kind, understanding, and unified. There are much greater things to tackle after putting out the small fires. Ya gotta start somewhere, but don’t be fooled into division. We all deserve equality and a sense of security
What is demanded of us is same or more than in non-feminist countries, and what we get back is less. Passed over for jobs (entire sectors that used to be open for everyone), much lower priority in healthcare (including psychiatric) and our rights in front of a court are now nearly non-existant, since a feminist parliament writes laws for feminist courts.
Don’t be like Sweden. Reject feminism
Feminism is an aggression against men. The notion that it would save you from having to be a guy is a lie. You’re still a guy. Just worth less.
If you’ve spent almost all of history ahead, equality appears to be an attack.
Rethink what you’re saying.
What a thought-terminating non-answer. If I ever lived in a society where women weren’t priviliged above men, I was too little to know it.
No, you already know it now, you’ve just gone off the deep-end into incel territory. Women have had it worse than men in the vast majority of societies in modern history, and continue to.
Like I said, you assume equality is an attack on your position, because your position is privledged.
Damn, thats such a sad comment.
When equity feels like oppression, you’ve been the oppressor the whole time.
Why are you being coy about which “demands” you object to? Unless you tell us what they are, they could easily mean things like “having to contribute to cooking, cleaning and child rearing” or “needing consent to help yourself to a woman’s body”.
I’m not sure if you’ve peered outside your little bubble lately, but more is demanded of women too. They’re expected not only to hold down a full time job but an entire career too. And oh look, they’re passed over for jobs, offered less money and forced to work twice as hard for recognition, all because of their gender.
So if you’re going to use the rhetoric of a bitter man-child who is upset their grandfathers “I work full time” excuse doesn’t work on people who are also working full time, you can at least pretend you’re pulling your weight first.
Because your comment isn’t just melodramatic, it’s outright bullshit.
It’s in reference to the post. Supposedly patriarchial demands like strength, good health and money. Jfc
Guess what, those are actually part of the patriarchal stereotype of the ideal men (now rebranded as Alpha Men®)
It’s almost as if I’m back browsing Reddit again.
I’m so used to arguing with other leftists now, it’s almost nice to have someone waltz in that we can all be mad at together :)
It is nice honestly – it’s a nice reminder that while we disagree, we aren’t that different. We agree on the basics. As opposed to the dregs of society we need to always unite against.
I hear ya. Sometimes it’s hard arguing with people that can use logic and reason.
gotem
Non-feminist views aren’t allowed on reddit any more. Haven’t been for some time
Being anti-feminist is a misogynistic and hateful viewpoint from a privileged group, so it makes sense to be against anti-feminism
I have zero idea how that’s a problem.
I’m not surprised. That’s the problem with you. You’re authoritarian.
Oh no! You can’t display your hateful, backwards-ass views on someone else’s computer anymore? You’re SO oppressed. Oh, you have to compete in the workplace with BOTH men AND women now? Ugh, you poor thing. Women have a say in the the creation of laws and distribution of justice? You don’t say, how terrible!
You’re all annoying. Only I, pure of heart and spirit, lying on jizz-stained bedsheets, possess the requisite blah blah blah blaaaah
IKR. Lemmy is as racist, sexist etc as reddit now. It’s crazy.
Welp, I can definitely see what your problem is.
It was in you the whole time!
Username checks out, at least the first two thirds
real feminists arent demanding anything from men, they just want equal rights and that should already be understood…
I guess men would perceive “less worth” now, compared to women … but that’s kinda how equality works. What sucks is that there is a “swing to it” that kinda hurts men, on an individual basis. Like custody rulings, or mental health care, for example. Because lo and behold, the patriarchy was never a means to lift men up, but an excuse to limit the power of those “not like them”.
The patriarchy is a system that hurts us us all, while using women as the scapegoat. It’s a tale as old as time; using division to prevent union amongst the majority. (A lot more to that, but we’re skimming the footnotes here)
Fuck -ism’s… understand that we’re all bitching about the same things, and it all kinda boils down to a class inequality. Be kind, understanding, and unified. There are much greater things to tackle after putting out the small fires. Ya gotta start somewhere, but don’t be fooled into division. We all deserve equality and a sense of security
No war but the class war.
Wealth equality would objectively improve the lives of every single person, not just women or minorities, but every single person.
Fighting wealth inequality is the ultimate humanitarianism.
https://piped.video/watch?v=6RFSyLb5dRE