A sad day for emulation and open source advocates, and a reminder that Nintendo can and will destroy you if they see fit.
Hopefully their works will live in the saved repos just as ReVanced was able to live on after YouTube shut the original project down.
something something Streisand effect
Yup, the work of Yuzu isnt lost at all. It’s just going to take time to see how that work will be advanced – will Ryujinx absorb the developers and their knowledge or will Yuzu continue?
Fuck shitendo. Their games are shit anyway. 🖕🏽
I guess that’s why everyone wants to emulate them, because they suck so bad.
I don’t. I never got the hype. Their games are trash. Their graphics on their switch are trash. Not sure what people like about Nintendo honestly.
Go play your Call of Doody, kid
Lmao. “kid”. Thank you for making me feel young. Much appreciated. I never play COD, btw.
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This fiasco demonstrates why open source is the superior software model.
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Quite reasonable. They don’t want to giveaway stuff free
I mean, you’re right. I don’t agree with the emulators being taken down, it sucks, but it’s hardly surprising that Nintendo, a company known for strictly protecting their copyrights, would go after these projects.
Hopefully other people and projects can pick up the reins, but should always be ready and prepared for another strike like this.
More people would purchase the games if they weren’t 60€ MSRP each regardless of size and quality.
I used to emulate switch games to test them as a free trial first, then I would buy them in second hand for half the price (which is still a lot, 30€ for a nintendo game versus 14€ for Nichijou volume)
And regardless of age! Their games never go on sale. And they don’t use local pricing (the actual term escapes me rn), so us poors in the 3rd world are stuck paying half a months salary for 7 year old games 🤪
regional pricing is the phrase you are looking for friend!
Each dev kit is $450. Being able to test on an emulator is free. Sure, you ultimately want to test on hardware, but indie dev teams aren’t going to shell out that kind of money for each developer. Who gives a fuck about indie developers though, right?
True, but pretty sure you still need to license the Nintendo SDK to make a game that Nintendo will accept officially, so they’ll still get money off you.
You can use unofficial/open source SDKs for homebrew, though
Ahhh gotcha!
So who is gonna create an anonymous account and fork the repo and website?
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Yuzu’s unprecedented success was it’s downfall.
Hopefully, it wasn’t the success of Yuzu but the fact it was being developed by an established company which was accepting over $30,000/mo in donations for “internal” builds.
It’s a lot easier to pressure a company that you know has a bunch of income, is firmly established in a country that recognises US copyright law, and makes a lot of money particularly on a legally contested technology.
They’ve gone after Dolphin before, but that’s still up and going. If Ryujinx or some other Yuzu rewrite (a soft fork would be v easy to take down imo) goes down then I’ll be proven wrong here
I think the difference with Dolphin is that it now emulates an extinct system(s), so it cannot possibly compete with the actual thing. They did have a close call last year, if I remember, and they pretty quickly went into “jettison all illegal shit out of the code base NOW.” -mode.
Their decision to profit off the project was their downfall.
I do wonder if this is specifically what got them, would probably take a lemmy lawyer to unpack it, but I would have to imagine if they didn’t have a patreon and basically a company it would have been much harder for Nintendo to do anything about them. And I would also imagine in retrospect whatever money they got was not worth it when it ends like this.
I always figure when people operate services like this they host it in a country like Russia that’s less likely to care about takedowns by western corpos and done anonymously as possible. Even though it’s just an emulator, you would think they wouldn’t be so brazen as to have a patreon which I’m sure requires someone’s identity/billing info. They probably still could have been tracked down if they took crypto donations or something like that, but you would think that would be the first choice over putting a giant target on their backs. Patreon is obviously just gonna hand over whatever info they are asked to give when served a warrent, so is Discord for that matter if they had any personal info on there too.
Afaik what got them was providing fixes for an unreleased game behind a paywall. Hard to deny the piracy aspect when you are actively profiting off of it.
It seems to be a deciding factor for Nintendo to sue
From the little I’ve read I think it’s the patreon money, the support to make things work like keys etc, showing a list of working games, and generally being blatant about using it for playing pirated games in their official communication
It may have also been the fact that they linked to instruction on how to rip prod.keys and system firmwares. Also their instructions on enabling running copyrighted ROMs - despite the fact that Ripping game ROMs and firmware is not (unfortunately arguably, due to licencing models and jurisdiction - you will own nothing and like it.) illegal so long as it’s for personal use.
They should’ve advertised it primarily as a testing and homebrew platform, and made sure not to make too much mention of the fact it can be used to play backups. Then they can at least play the ignorance card with more confidence.
Even then though, multi-billion yen company Nintendo probably would still pull this shit and drag, drag, drag the lawsuit out for forever and a day- draining lawyers fees of money. That being the case, settling is unfortunately the only option.
100% it’s this. Also probably the fact that Nintendo is currently profiting off of switch. If it was after it became abandonware they probably wouldn’t bother. You don’t hear about Nintendo going after DS emulators.
didn’t they sue a site where nes roms were distributed recently?
You don’t hear about Nintendo going after DS emulators.
They do it all the time, with even older consoles. Nintendo doesn’t give a shit.
or rather Nintendo’s unprecedented greed
My already-installed copy of these softwares won’t go anywhere, Nintendo. Get bent.
Running their mouths on Discord. Using Patreon to profit from (not) piracy (but everyone knows it is). Reckless display of hubris.
Citra has a core on retroarch, I am hoping that it will stay up
Here’s a fork of Citra that can connect to the official nintendo network, still avilable now, by the person who made CTGP7 (custom tracks and characters in MarioKart 7), and here’s the one for Yuzu. I think these are gonna be the main forks because they already have quite a lot of activity. It’s cool that Citra and Yuzu were open-source so things like this can be made!
I hope the contributors are anonymous…
If they were anon, they wouldn’t have folded. But the ethical thing to do now is for them to create new anon accounts, fork the repo, and keep doing the good work
I think at least for Yuzu it would be better for devs to rebrand it to keep ninty back a bit.
Does someone has the last release files? pls tell me someone has it
