A 6th grade girls team from Kentucky was set to go for the year-end championship tournament, but was told they were banned due to fears boys teams might ‘retaliate’ if they lost to the girls team.

  • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    Regardless of the prejudice angle in this story, I feel bad for the girls for being excluded from possibly winning the championship, especially when they were performing well.

      • Ashen44@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        Don’t worry about it, some people just throw downvotes around everywhere. You could make the least divisive post possible that everyone universally could agree is correct and still get a downvote, so it’s best to just ignore it. This is especially true on news communities, infamously the preferred hunting grounds of many a troll.

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            4 months ago

            Fair enough, but it’s just so weird.

            Like what is that? Just some automated system response, making sure there’s always at least one downvote on anyone’s comment?

            I’m being facetious, but you get my point. It’s just so out of left field, it just makes you wonder.

        • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          4 months ago

          Thanks for replying. I’m honestly not worried about it, just really curious. I like to know if there’s something missing in my perception of the comment I made, basically.

  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    Nice.

    So it basically boils down to this.

    We as Kentuckian realized we failed as parents at a state therefore we will continue to be shit parents and ban the girls for having better parents to appease the shitty parents and their shittily raised boys so they don’t get a bruised ego for failing as parents and humans.

    Again, very nice.

  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    That’s 11 years old.

    Okay let’s hear all the excuses for 11 year olds needing to be super competitive and separated by gender.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        Which we care about… Why? Is there some million dollar prize for 11 year old basketball I’m not aware of?

        • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          4 months ago

          Then you can’t have it both ways when they get to high school. Or are you saying Girl Sports shouldn’t exist? If a girl can’t compete in high school basketball against boys, then too bad?

          • Maggoty@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            4 months ago

            School sports shouldn’t be competitive in the same way. It’s not the point of student sports. That’s for learning to operate in a team, learning social dynamics, building hand-eye coordination, and physical fitness.

            But this wasn’t a school league. So for apples to apples, yes once they reach high school age in private leagues they should be grouped by ability.

      • calcopiritus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        Then they should make 2 leagues: one where everyone is allowed to participate, and another one where only boys can participate, so they can win too. Just like we have with every sport’s women’s league.

        Of course the prizes in the boys-only league should be lower since they play in a less competitive league.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          4 months ago

          Of course the prizes in the boys-only league should be lower since they play in a less competitive league.

          Sadly, the way these things tend to work is that a handful of patriarchs make all the rules, from who gets to play to what goes in the prize pool.

  • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    “…what we have worried about is a boys team is losing to a girls team (especially in a year end tourney) they may get frustrated and retaliate against a girl,” a text allegedly sent by the tournament directors reads.

    “Throughout the season we had a few teams come to us about this and raise concerns about it. Because of this we decided to keep them out of the tournament,” another text reads.

    Oh, so the teams were threatening to commit violence against the girls. Why not just kick those teams out?

    • pachrist@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      4 months ago

      I don’t want to be an old man, but if you hit a girl when I was in 6th grade, you were an instant social pariah. Everyone would beat your ass.

      Kicking them out doesn’t solve the problem. They’d just blame the girls instead of being introspective. Let one of these loser little boys throw hands and learn really fucking fast that the meanest, hardest hitting monster on this planet is a pissed off 12 year old girl. When he’s getting his hair ripped out a fistful at a time, he’ll understand why he lost.

      • JoBo@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        but if you hit a girl when I was in 6th grade, you were an instant social pariah. Everyone would beat your ass.

        And this is why male violence against women is non-existent, children.

        There is a whole world out there to pay attention to and you’ve taken the performative utterances of tweenage boys desperately trying to become men as evidence to deny everything else. WTF?

        FWIW, the ones who were shouting the loudest are absolutely the most likely to be dominating, coercing, and hitting their female partners now. They’re performing masculinity because they don’t know what it is and that terrifies them.

        And because the world is dominated by these frightened little boys, we punish girls and women for the violence of men. This story is not an outlier, it is the fucking story.

      • DrPop@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        Yeah a lot of boys forget that girls don’t fight “fair”. Due to societal pressures on women to surpress heir emotions, when it comes time to fight that’s it. Boys are taught by society fighting is normal and even is encouraged in how they play.

        • nednobbins@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          4 months ago

          6th graders generally don’t fight fair. They don’t generally fight well at all.

          The typical fight between 6th grade boys is every bit as much of a slap fest as the typical fight between 6th grade girls.

          6th grade boys haven’t hit puberty yet. Given that these girls are kicking their butts at basket ball I’ll assume they slap harder than the boys do.

          • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            4 months ago

            They’re probably taller than the boys, too which plays into them beating them at basketball since height is such a big advantage and girls tend to hit their growth spurts earlier.

  • morriscox@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    Sunderman should have kicked them out for lying, not out of “concern” for the potential behavior of boys. As soon as he made that claim he went into the wrong. If the boys can’t behave properly then kick them out. It’s like how a gal shouldn’t have to worry about being raped because of what she is or isn’t wearing or doing or not doing. We’re telling females what to do or not to do and not males what to do or not do.

  • girlfreddy@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    More sources that go into depth on what happened and the fallout …

    https://www.rawstory.com/next-level-basketball/

    https://www.wvxu.org/sports/2024-03-04/kentucky-girls-basketball-team-banned-southwestern-ohio

    And maybe this is why the girls were shut down … On Feb 28 in an event in Alabama the girl’s team, who were forced to play in the boy’s league, won the championship but the trophy went to the losers instead.

    https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/why-an-alabama-girls-youth-basketball-team-wasnt-awarded-a-championship-trophy-after-beating-a-boys-team/

    • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      4 months ago

      Next Level Girls Basketball is a youth team based in Wilder, Ky., that coaches girls from the 3rd grade level through high school. The team’s highest level players are competing for scholarships to play in college, but many others are there just because they like playing basketball.

      I’d like to know the age of the competing teams. These were sixth year level students, the first game was played by, as I can make out from the article, a stand-in team of 6th graders (boys).

      I’d want to know if they only met other 6th grade teams after that, or what the age composition of both teams were, because I feel like that could potentially be a factor.

      • girlfreddy@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        4 months ago

        "Subsequently, their first game was filled in by a boys 6th grade Next Level team … It wasn’t until late January/early February that several teams from the 6th grade division started traveling down to Kentucky to play their scheduled games, that it became apparent that the Next Level team was, in fact, a girls team."

  • Seraph@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    4 months ago

    Of course you can play with the boys!

    No not like that - you have to let them beat you!