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“WE ARE GREEN”
I have a Quest 2 that i haven’t touched in almost 2 years. I should sell it.
Since the Steam Link app came out on it, it’s been waaay easier to play PCVR titles. I’ve had more fun with it playing modded games that weren’t meant for VR than actual new VR games. Valheim was nuts. Skyrim VR modded to hell is super nuts. It’s a great way to re-experience some of those old games.
“Thanks for your support in growing this community without any compensation from us that we will throw in the trash the moment it becomes less than profitable. You can continue your unrewarded work for our new and ‘improved’ product that will face the same fate in just a few short years!”
Yeee anybody who bought these as an actual standalone headset is in for a rude awakening of how console gaming works and how app store monopolies and vertical integration are able to offer you prices that massively undercut the competition like this.
As always - PC games are forever, piracy is forever. My quest 2 exists to have VD on it and nothing else, and when support is discontinued if the dev keeps updating it - I’ll sideload the .APKs myself.
My quest 2 exists to have VD on it
Sounds a lot like a girl I knew back in college. Do you also share it with all your friends and people you barely met?
God bless Jessica
My worry and the main reason I’ve not jumped for one, is that with the requirement of a Meta account and stuff, Meta could decide to just have all their headsets of a certain generation stop working after some date even if you only use desktop streaming.
Are there any known workarounds/safeguards against Meta remote control of the device?
I found THIS, but there are some caveats.
Thanks for the research. It seems like their discontinuation of Oculus accounts made some of the steps harder or less effective, and I’d worry about messing something up.
I took a second look after you replied and holy shit you’re right it is very involved. I’m just going to take my chances with meta still and if they burn me I got my several hundred hours of Skyrim VR in. Enough to justify an Index.
I have used my pi-hole to blacklist all the oculus, meta and facebook domains, so I don’t get firmware update pushes on my Q1.
BUT, I did have a weird out-of-sync issue with Virtual Desktop a few months ago when I thought I had properly version locked.
All I ever wanted my Quest to be was a monitor. The fact that they could brick a monitor because they feel like it’s obsolete, is asinine.
We thank you for being our beta testers, now fuck right off
It’s not even a beta tester thing. They just bought it from Oculus, made a few minor changes (most notably requiring you to have a Facebook account to use it) and that was it. This is a “force consumers to upgrade” thing. And it should be illegal.
I thought the on device camera based positioning was developed after Facebook bought them and hired John Carmack
Hold up. I can’t make an app for you because that asshole over there says no? Refund that shit. The hardware clearly isn’t yours, so your money should make it’s way back to your wallet.
Where does it say that you can’t make an app? From my understanding, you can’t distribute in their store. Nobody is taking away your hardware or blocks you from using it.
Meta/Facebook has the quest locked down so you can’t easily install run apps without using their store. By preventing developers from releasing new games/updates on the store for quest 1, they’ve effectively killed the product.
Its the same as if Apple stopped supporting an iPhone in the app store. That phone is no longer able to install any apps on it.
So, they’re basically forcing it into the junk pile, even if developers want to support it. What a terrible company.
Well it is meta. I am surprised they didn’t make them all just catch fire and burn down the owners houses.
Upon being handed a busted Quest 2 that indeed caught fire, I’ve found a lot of folks online that have had that very issue lol.
Unrelated, I fixed it and noe need VR game suggestions as this realm is the shit.
There’s no money in that for them. Now if they owned a real estate company…
Made me wonder how long Apple would support their Vision Pro devices as both devices are similarly locked down by their manufacturers. The Quest 1 was released on 2019, so it got about 5 years of support. Apple might support Vision Pro for longer (maybe 7 years?), but at $3499 (vs Quest 1’s $399), it’ll going to be hurt for the owners when it’s no longer supported.
Apple does not stop you from installing apps when they EOL their hardware though.
same thing happened to my Samsung mixed reality headset. I’ve just said fuck vr entirely if companies are going to do this. reminds me of how Apple used to be where people would patch new fully working iOS version features onto old phones to bypass artificial obsolescence.
I thought these are still working?
if you don’t update past 21H2, they will work on steamVR for around 3 more years yeh. but the end is still just delayed e-waste.
Device was released May 21, 2019. So about five years of use, assuming someone bought one on release day.
Meh.
And? Why take active steps to stop it from working instead of just stopping technical support? Oh yeah, to get more money.
Why assume that’s what I was saying?
Your entire comment reads as a refute of OPs criticism and an excuse for Meta’s actions. If you were agreeing with OPs criticism, you would typically use phrases like “only five years”.
Or I would express that I’m on the fence between thinking the thing lasted long enough to be worth it, and thinking it wasn’t.
Does quest 1 have access to virtual desktop? If so, can you just keep playing off of your computer hardware? Or are those 10kB patches virtual desktop has to download RIGHT NOW five minutes after you start using it really important to the operation of the streamer app?
What a lame early April fools joke.
lol it’s not even 5 years old?!? I appreciate Zuc giving me another reason to not buy their hardware
It’ll be five years old this may. It’s four, going in five.
It should still work fine with SteamVR right? I’m not too pressed.
Will it? I would love to try out VR gaming but I really don’t want to be locked into meta’s ecosystem.
There’s also SideQuestVR
It currently does, I still use mine both standalone, and linked with my desktop on the oculus platform and SteamVR, since i disliked how cheaply made the oculus 2 was.
Right now I’m waiting for a competitor to the quest to even appear on the market, since there doesn’t seem to be any other standalone option right now.
There’s the Pico 4 - but the company behind it is ByteDance. You might know ByteDance from their other product: TikTok…
So in the end it would be out of the frying pan and into the fire, I think.
Yeah I’m not eager to go from sending my floorplan to zuck to sending it to the CCP, lol.
Thank you for that info! I have a really hard time spending a lot of money on myself so I’ve been putting off buying a vr set for years and years now, but if I was to get one it would be valve or pico because screws Facebook. Now I guess it’s just valve though…
Meanwhile my OG oculus rift is still working fine
Same. CV1. Fuck Facebook
I mean, this will carry on working as a PC headset too. Doesn’t say they’re taking that away.
