Big dairy’s collusion with the US government is a much deeper issue than anyone suspects.
Here’s a good read on it, I wish everyone knew about this:
tl;dr The US government is partnering with food manufacturers (and Pizza Hut) to increase the amount of cheese in products in order to prop up the dairy industry.
When it comes down to “can oat milk be called milk?” I think the outcome is a foregone conclusion.
FWIW - I consider myself “lactose ambivalent”. I’m not intolerant. :) It just doesn’t occur to me to buy dairy most of the time.
I do enjoy Oat Milk, I wish it didn’t have as much sugar in it as it does. :( It really doesn’t like me though!
Try making your own oat milk and put in as little sugar as you want! It’s pretty easy.
I get it. There’s the old Lewis Black rant that you need a tit for “milk” and no one wants to drink something called “soy juice.” But I think that letting plant-based alternatives label themselves as “milk” allows them to compete in an arena where they are a tiny fraction of sales.
Plant-based milk often uses much less water than animal milk.
TLDR: Oat milk is fukken awesome and also like the one thing my kid isn’t allergic to.
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Hard to milk those little oat teats though.
Dairy industry can fuck right off!
it obviously doesn’t confuse consumers: no one thinks you can milk an almond. It’s just another way for a big business interest to try to push an agenda
looks through this thread
Apparently many seem to think just that
No way, the dumbass who didn’t read the package (that says non-dairy cheese right on it) is not a reason to let the government prop up a big agribusiness. Should the vegan cheeses not be allowed to put a picture of their product on the package either for when people decide not to read the package?
Don’t know about you, but I’m not going to start buying liquid milked from a cow, and stop buying liquid that was milked from a bunch of almonds, just because cow-milkers won’t let almond-milkers say “milk”. The non-dairy producers will just get creative and name their stuff something else, like Malk
You’re welcome to buy anything you want, but calling everything milk just because it’s a white liquid still seems silly to me.
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Can’t we just call it creamy nut juice and move on?
As someone who knows a couple of (small time) dairy farmers personally, “Deep-pocketed dairy industry” is a term I didn’t’ think I’d ever see.
It’s the people they sell their cow juice to that are deep pocketed.
We should make them call it Bovine Mammary Secretion.
No such thing as “small time dairy” anymore. It’s all big agribusiness even if you think it looks like small time, just like the Tyson chicken people operating every “small time” chicken farm
maybe not where you are, but there are still small dairies where i am.
The dairy industry can contest that too. They just need to start milking bulls…
They already do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroejaculation
The other kind of nut juice.
I’m a fairly big fan of coconut fluid in particular but it’s not milk. it’s just not. milk comes from a titty. you can sell milk substitutes. I even prefer them, but it simply is not milk and I’m fine with food needing to be labelled what it is.
It’s been called coconut milk for 300 years now. No-one is getting confused about it.
It only took one time for me ruining a pizza with congealed palm oil deliberately masquerading as “mozzarella cheese” to be 100% on big dairy’s side here.
If it’s not an animal product, it shouldn’t be labeled “milk” or “cheese”
The term “milk” is an old chemistry term referring to a “heterogeneous mixture of insoluble compounds”. “Colloid” is the modern term. Think “milk of magnesia”, which is used as an antacid. It is called a milk because the Mg(OH)2 doesn’t dissolve and just forms a suspension. Almond milk is a suspension of ground up almond particles. Cow milk is a suspension of fat particles that won’t dissolve. This is why milk is homogenized: because it wants to form a floating fat layer and water layer. That’s unappealing so they fake making it look the same throughout. It is not a homogeneous solution. So anything you can mix up in water that doesn’t dissolve and it stays suspended is “milk”.
I mean, it’s two definitions for the same word. And it looks like mammary secretions is the older version, I think. Additionally, personally that is what I think of when I think of milk. I think of almond milk as an emulsion of almonds that approximates milk and I think most people agree with me.
That said, I am not going to confuse almond milk for milk unless they just straight up call it milk.
Bare minimum research: https://www.etymonline.com/word/milk
So anything you can mix up in water that doesn’t dissolve and it stays suspended is “milk”.
Not to consumers, which is ultimately the only thing that should matter when making decisions on how food should and should not be labeled.
Read the package next time dummy
So you’re the reason why we need warning labels on everything.
Warning labels aren’t helpful when they’re intentionally misleading. That’s kinda the entire point.
