• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    I don’t even get “did you mean” anymore. Just, we found more examples of this, so this must be what you meant.

    Even DuckDuckGo straight-up tells you “we didn’t find many results containing [blank].” Yeah. That’s why I wrote [blank.]

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      3 months ago

      “There are a lot of results that aren’t what you’re looking for.”

      Okay, great?

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          3 months ago

          So that “here’s irrelevant results” tactic must keep people engaged more than “tough luck, found nothing”. My takeaway based on that assumption is that people must suck at using search, unless we think we don’t want those irrelevant results but really they jog our memories or something 51% of the time…

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            3 months ago

            Hadn’t considered that search engines would ruin themselves to feed Engagemagog, but in hindsight it’s hardly surprising.

            That’d also explain when you show up on a front page or focus on a search bar, evanescent outline of a thought trying to take form through your fingertips, and the stupid goddamn website goes Football scores?! Celebrity babies?! Dearborn Michigan?! Large Hadron Collider?! Houseboats?!?!

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              3 months ago

              Hey, eerbody else is searching The Kardashians* today so maybe you should too!

              *to be replaced with non-aged cultural reference

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                3 months ago

                Those last three were real examples when I checked Google just now. They’re not relevant to anything or anywhere in my life. I don’t even get it. I can’t imagine how they’re some hot new thing, today specifically. If they were just trying to shotgun people’s hyperfixations, there’d be more about transportation infrastructure and gacha games.

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                  3 months ago

                  Interesting, the first two of the final three terms are in the news right now:

                  Houseboat is somewhat surprising. They have made some San Francisco Bay news in the past week:

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    3 months ago

    Is there any good search engines? I mean I’ve tried searching recently for a solution I referenced 3 months ago and it’s disappeared from Google and Bing.

    Shit, even looking up repair information for a household appliance if can’t find the model before the newest and it all points to a sale page for the newest version.

    Maybe AkJeeves!?

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        3 months ago

        I second Kagi with the additional mention of their “lens” feature that allows results to be restricted to scholarly sources which is very relevant to the meme’s search needs.

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      3 months ago

      I’ve been using DuckDuckGo for a few years now, and I never went back to Google. Maybe give it a try !

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        3 months ago

        I use duck duck go but sometimes I just have to use google.

        Use same search terms etc and can’t get what I want.

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          3 months ago

          You should try DDG’s “bangs” then. They are shortcuts you can type to narrow your search or use another search engine from DDG’s interface.

          !gm Singapore will search for Singapore directly in Google Maps !w Singapore will search for the word in Wikipedia !g will search in Google, etc.

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            3 months ago

            Ohh I love that, I always have to resort to google maps to search specific things now I will try that.

            Thanks so much

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        3 months ago

        My understanding is that duckduckgo is just Bing without tracking, I also have used it for a few years to decent success but figure it’s worth noting

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          3 months ago

          I’ve been using bing at work and it’s surprisingly good. It’s got tracking and ads and crap but it’s really more like Google was a few years ago than anything

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            3 months ago

            Frankly I tend to agree. I started using it for the rewards, now that they nerfed that program I still use it since the search is better than Google, copilot intrusion aside

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      3 months ago

      I get my best results with either Duckduckgo or with Searx. Neither run their own index but the independent index searches I’ve tried have been straight up ass. It seems right now the best thing you can do is simply escape the curated personalized results bubbles

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        3 months ago

        Somehow I trained my bubble well entirely by accident, because for the most part google still gets me the results I look for with an ok success rate

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      3 months ago

      Mozilla recently announced some kind of partnership with Qwant. Hadn’t heard of it before, and I was highly skeptical (I’m a very cynical person). I tried it out and honestly I think it gives me on-average better results than Google and Bing does. Since it doesn’t track you it doesn’t personalise the results at all, and as far as I can tell it doesn’t have any ads, though I do use an adblocker so don’t quote me on that. It’s also very snappy. Bing often has long loading times for me, which was incredibly frustrating.

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      3 months ago

      The problem is that humanity now has an incentive to produce spam content (ad money) and programs that can meticulously craft spam content to look like it’s written by a human (LLMs).

      I have to assume that the result is tons of spam content, which the traditional search engines have to sift through.

      If they’d present you with all that spam content, you wouldn’t find anything useful.
      So, they try to filter out that spam content, but because it looks like it’s written by a human, they’re going to accidentally filter out useful content, too.

      There’s also at least some measurements, that search results are decidedly getting worse: https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/17/google_search_results_spam/

      So, yeah, I think, all traditional search engines are massively struggling with this. Maybe something can be done with only indexing known-good sites, but for specialty information, like the repair information of your household appliance, that will probably be worse…

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    3 months ago

    I thought crystal healing was limited to common minerals like quartz? Anything niche shouldn’t be on their radar

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    3 months ago

    Mullvad Leta?

    Duckduckgo lite?

    duckduckgo onion?

    Brave search?

    What are some others?

    SerXing?

    Startpage?

    Several different very privacy friendly browsers have those in them by default.

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    3 months ago

    God I had this issue looking for used wheels for my car. Like, actual wheels to use for a track day, but results showed nothing but simracing threads for used STEERING wheels.