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Twitter post by @DirtyTesLa: Thankful to have Cybertruck to help me with the real work and big loads 🙏 (image of Cybertruck with several bags of soil in the trunk)
Reply by @KralikLj: Hell boy that would fit in a bicycle. Way more carbon free than that wankpanzer. (image of cargo bicycle with several bags of soil strapped to the front)
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I mean I’m all for making fun of truck owners but in this case it’s just straight up not a good comparison. The bicycle is carrying half the number of bags…
They’re far bigger bags. I went to find the original images elsewhere in the thread. The bike is carrying 200 litres of soil, the truck is only carrying 170 L
soil isn’t liquid
I guess I can’t bake anymore since I can’t measure out a cup of sugar
L stands for liters and not liquid.
L stands for what you take because you tjink soil is a liquud
A litre is just a measure of volume. You can measure any volume with litres. The packages on the cargo bike straight up have “50 L” printed on the side of them.
water isn’t that loud
Piss harder then
I did once but it ripped
Also: distance, hills, etc.
That bike is a better solution for a lot of people, but let’s not pretend it’s a practical one for everyone.
Where can I get a wheelbarrow bike like that? That actually looks cool…
They are called Cargo Bikes and they come in many forms. This is one of them. Another has a bucket front, and the most common third one involves a big T R U N K that can hold kids, or cargo.
Beware if you’re used to what Bikes cost at Walmart - you’re in for sticker shock.
I wanted to get the kind that had the trunk for taking my kids on bike rides but they start at 2 grand. I ain’t got that kinda money for a nice-thing-to-do.
Oof… Well thanks anyway 😅
That particular frame is made by Harry Vs. Larry, called the Bullitt bike, or eBullitt for the electric version. If in the US you may need to do a bit of digging on and offline to find a distributor.
They’re called “bakfiet” or “longjohn” cargo bikes. Similar bikes are made by Urban Arrow, R&M, Bakfiet.nl, and others that aren’t top of mind for me at the moment
Thanks :)
Funny seeing this, I just got back from taking 40L of planting soil home in the back of my (non-cargo) bike. It’s doable, for sure.
Trailers are super convenient things to have around for the occasional appliance-shopping and garden centres.
A lot cheaper to keep around than a $80,000 truck which requires insurance too.
That’s a big load? That‽ That’ll fit into any car.
You just wanted to use an interrobang didn’t you?
Meanwhile in a real truck…
Couldn’t you do that on a cybertruck as well?
But then you’ll have to pour like 4 cans of barkeeper’s friend all over the car to clean it up immediately after
The most similar bed for regular trucks is about 14 cu ft more than in the CT (about 70cu ft vs about 56 cu ft) but technically yes you could load a Cybertruck like that, although I wouldn’t want to see the sloped sides after a loader dumped a couple of yards in it…
Yards? What the hell? You measure volume in yards now?
The cubic yard is common among contractors in the US. You buy concrete in yards
A cubic yard is about 25% more than a cubic meter. And a ton is like 10% more than a metric ton.
Water volumes in reservoirs are measured in acre*feet. By comparison a cubic yard is pretty sensible. And for comparison if you know of any big lakes near you, a million acre feet is about 20% smaller than a cubic kilometer.
You got some special edition yards or something?
A cubic meter is 30% more than a cubic yard, meters are longer than yards.
A tonne (metric) is 1000kg, about 2200 pounds. A ton, often called a short ton, is 2000 pounds. A long ton is 2240 pounds. A long ton is 1.6% more than a metric ton.
Considering the insane mathematical conversions you people have to constantly do, I wonder why the USA isn’t full of mathematical geniuses?
Ah right, because scientists use metric.
Yes and it’s as annoying and stupid as it sounds
This image broke me, 95% of the trucks I see everyday are used as commuter vehicles with nothing in the bed. And the ones that do are hauling a single sheet of plywood. I plum forgot people use trucks to move stuff.
Meanwhile in Europe in a vehicle with a smaller footprint:
An American mind cannot comprehend this
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Bonus picture:
Yeah so… Both these things exist in North America… I mean, do you really believe we don’t have tractors when there’s a chunk of territory a third of the size of Europe that’s plains?
Of course I know tractors are a thing in the US
But in Europe we don’t see many SUVs, simply because if you need to haul a lot of things you get a van. And if you don’t you get a normal car.
An SUV simply isn’t efficient at anything. It is the worst of both worlds.
The tractor is more about when you need to haul even more stuff.
One drove by us at the end of a hike yesterday and I literally thought… “what the fuck is… oh - oh wait is that their… ugh, oh no. Fuck this- fuck this guy driving. Hey buddy you look like a jackass fuck your Nazi CEO funding bullshit pedestrian murdering truck.”
You got this upset over someone’s car?
Lmao you peruse the Internet this literally?
Can we just officially call it the Wankpanzer? That’s too good.
Call me crazy, but I think original op, the one with the cyber truck, was actually making a joke
I also think it’s more of a sarcastic remark about size of the cargo bed, if you can even call it a cargo bed.
The account is literally called Dirty Tesla. This must be one of the biggest whooshes in history.
Wankpanzer has now been added to my lexicon.
I know right.
My takeaway as well
An open source gift to the world.
I appreciate what Len’s going for, but showing a Cybertruck with a load that would fit in a normal car, and ‘owning’ it by showing a bike carrying what appears to be half as much, is only going to give ammo to the dipshits with their massively oversized trucks.
‘Hey, bro! My Ford SuperMacho DonkeyDong Pavement Princess edition would fit the load from the Cybertruck and the load from the cargo bike. I could throw the bike on top too!’
Reframing it as ‘the Cybertruck’s so shitty that half the load will fit on a bike with no issues, and you don’t have to be seen driving a Cybertruck’ would probably work better 👍
The packages on the bike look far longer, it’s quite possible that it actually is the same load
They do look bigger, but it seems like the pink section is bigger, and the rest is the same size as the bags in the truck, making the bike’s cargo of four bags equivalent to about five of the truck’s bags.
That’s just a guess from a bad photo though.
My curiosity has been piqued, so here are the actual numbers:
- Cargo bike: 4 x 50 L = 200 L
- Cybertruck: 8 x 0.75 cubic feet = 170 L
There’s actually more on the bike. I love this post even more now
A liter of potting soil is roughly a kilo. Very few people will be able to move a bike with 200kilos on it unless the ground is perfectly even.
There are plenty of vehicles that are better for moving around that much mass than a Cybertruck is but a bike isn’t really one of them.
Are you sure about that weight? I can’t say I’ve used a lot of potting soil in my life, but the first google results for it that have weights listed for the bag are all more like quarter to a third of a kilo per litre. That puts the weight of the load at less than 70kg, which is much more reasonable
I’m not sure at all. It’s just the first number I found online. Since a liter of water is a kilo it seemed reasonable to accept a liter of soil being a similar mass.
But shoot. I just went downstairs and checked the bags of soil we recently bought. 44 liters and 16 kilos. That’s about 0.36 kilos per liter, so you’re correct.
That said, when I had 4 of those sitting in the back of a Subaru hatchback you can definitely feel the accelerator get mushy. It probably wouldn’t be terrible to carry that much weight for short distances occasionally. Regularly riding long distances on less than perfect roads with that much load sounds pretty painful.
It’s a cargo bike: Low centre of gravity, adequate transmission for hauling heavy loads uphill, moving it isn’t the issue. You should be more worried about the actual load capacity: A good cargo bike, as in two wheels not four or a trailer configuration or something, usually maxes out at ~150kg load (including driver). Trikes about 250kg, quads or trikes with trailer at 500kg.
But then a kg of soil weighs more like 400g so we’re talking more like 80kg. Including driver you might be exceeding load capacity, but not by much (assuming obese people don’t ride bikes which I think is a fair assumption) it’s probably going to survive, especially if you’re careful around kerbstones and stuff. Those load limits are all calculated off some maximum drop distance, if you don’t drop your wheels then you can generally go much higher. The frame is very unlikely to break or bend, the axles would probably be the first to fail.
It looks like these bikes are 100% human powered. That’s the part I’m worried about.
I’m starting to get kind of old but I know how to ride a bike and I’m in pretty decent shape. In nice weather I ride for several miles at a time with my kids. I could move a heavily loaded bike for short distances but if I’m doing regular transportation with that for hours at a time I can forget about my knees.
The usual distances for these kinds of bikes are a couple of km max, once or twice a week. Big shopping trip if you’re living on the outskirts kind of deal, or smaller shopping trip and the kid rides in the cargo bucket. If you’re up for it sure you can also tour them, tent and sleeping bags don’t tend to weigh much and there’s ample of space.
Bikes for parcel deliveries etc. tend to be quads or trailer-trikes, also, electric. Noone is running a landscaping business with one of those bikes that still is, and probably always will be, a VW transporter with flatbed kind of deal.
I’m fat and out of shape. I know I wouldn’t be able to move that bike without some sort of motor assistance. You can 100% get a battery-powered engine to help, though.
Unbelievable, and nice!
Oh, wow! Sometimes it feels nice to be wrong 😁
Reframing it as ‘the Cybertruck’s so shitty that half the load will fit on a bike with no issues, and you don’t have to be seen driving a Cybertruck’ would probably work better 👍
I fully agree with this, but I have to say I think it’s equivalently and succinctly encapsulated by “wankpanzer”.
The bags on the bike are bigger, i think. I think that is in fact the same load, or close to it.
Plus, the bike has more room to stack them upwards, and there are other bike models that have an actual frame for the cargo area.
They are. If you look at the comments here, skua got the higher quality images and worked out the details:
https://kbin.social/m/fuckcars@lemmy.ca/t/955361/-/comment/6141707
There are already posts in this thread basically doing that…
Them: I pay $700/m on my truck loan so I can move a ton of mulch every year.
Me: I pay a $57 delivery fee so I can move six tons of mulch every year.
We are not the same.
Can rent a truck from home depot for like $20/hr. Most people are probably paying more than that a week in added fuel costs to drive a gas guzzler of a truck.
I think $700/m is unreasonably low for a Cybertruck, which makes your most even more. I don’t think you can get the financing details for one through the website, but I did it for an $80K Model X for 84 months in California and got $1,390/m.
Yeah they should’ve have gone for
I’ve seen your mom take bigger loads than that
I saw one IRL the other day and it was way bigger than I thought based on pictures. This shows how shitty the trunk on it is. Whole car was bigger than an Escalade, but this is all that trunk can fit. What a hunk o shit.
my wagon can definitely carry that, without the risk of slicing off pedestrians’ faces in an accident, too.
People are so triggered by the cybertruck. I want one just for the pure entertainment value of triggering the fragile.
Your comment alone is triggering people but im the same exact boat. My brother in law has it and mentioned that most of his interactions were actually really positive with just a few negative. MKBHD has said the same thing in his review.
I probably would have gone through with it if they managed to keep the original range that was promised, even with the price hike. 500 mi epa for an electric truck like that is crazy, but it got downgraded pretty hard.
I have a different Tesla right now and it’s awesome driving past gas guzzlers for free knowing how much it’s costing them to drive their smallpenismobiles around while I drive for free (yea, free charging still exists). I pay insurance and that’s it. Might need new tires next year.
Literal “eats shit so other people have to smell your breath” mindset, lmao
I’m in the unfortunate position of not living in a place to practically use that bicycle, and being unable to afford a cybertruck. I wouldn’t buy one, even if I could afford it, but I’d like to be in that position.
tbh such kind of bicycle will hardly be practical anywhere
Yeah you’d want it on a trailer or side bags. Maybe a handlebar box. It’s definitely doable. I saw multiple bikes tonight that could do it at the shop I contribute at.
I see them around here (Germany) and they seem quite practical, although ones with 3 or more wheels are most popular here. Especially for such heavy loads.
The only big loads a cyber truck helps a person with are Andy’s.
