File Explorer, Copilot and DirectX are some of Windows 11's functions that will use AI
    • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      Can you though? Explorer.exe on windows 11 is already a steaming pile. Why the fuck can’t I disable grouping? If I need to find a specific kind of files in my download directory, it’s way easier for me to sort by size. What isn’t easy is that now it’s grouped by fucking date as well. IDK when I grabbed the last windows iso on my.visualstudio.com, I just know that I have <10 files that are >3GB in my download directory. But noooo now after sorting by size I’ve got to either search though 4 or 5 groups or turn grouping off.

      The IT dept at work has decided that we all will run windows 11, and it’s locked down tighter than I’ve experienced in a long time. Guess who has a VM called “Windows 10 Daily driver” running. Fuck windows 11 and the iso it rode in on.

      • allywilson@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        I think what’s interesting about this take, is when they use AI to generate things like new taxes, tax codes and tax laws. The levels of loopery will be insane.

    • Destide@feddit.ukEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Read the article? :D Doesn’t look like it’s live they just caught it in code

        • Destide@feddit.ukEnglish
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          2 months ago

          That’s not how code of this magnitude works off the cuff GetPhysicallyInstalledSystemMemory() and GetPhysicalDiskSize()) aren’t defined and might exist in a file they couldn’t access. It’s also in C++ so you’d have to compile it first no one’s going through all that for a visual screenshot of a watermark at this stage

        • ඞmir@lemmy.ml
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          2 months ago

          If you want a serious answer, you could theoretically disable all security checks on Win11 so you could hex-edit patch it to run, but it would be (1) a lot of effort and (2) probably show that it’s nowhere near finished, because it still misses UI integration for example

        • xan1242@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 months ago

          They kinda don’t have the sources there. That’s a decompilation by IDA in that image.

          But nevertheless they could run it if they set up an arm64 machine, technically.

  • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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    2 months ago

    Good, to be honest. Like it or not, Microsoft is going all-in on AI stuff, and when Windows starts crashing randomly because the tech kid in your family decided to override the minimum requirements to upgrade to Windows 11, you probably want to know beforehand.

    The requirements as documented in the article are “popcnt” and SSE 4.2 support which have been default in just about any amd64 CPU capable of running Windows 11 for at least a decade. The Snapdragon check is probably there so people using unlicensed copies of Windows 11 on their Macs aren’t surprised when the AI stuff starts crashing programs.

    • BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Who is going to be forcing Win 11 on old computers for their family members that don’t know much about computers?

      If someone buys a new computer, it will support Win 11.

    • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      Imagine unironically defending Microsoft making their product shittier

      Maybe they should just make the OS work on any computer? Kinda seems like they’re shooting themselves in the foot, yeah?

      • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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        2 months ago

        How is warning users that their ancient computer is going to be unstable because they (or more likely, some technically skilled family member) ignored and overrode the minimum requirements?

        This isn’t the “Ryzen 2 or 8th gen Intel or up” spec Windows requires. This thing checks for an instruction set that has been standard since Nehalem/K10. There are other operating systems your 18 year old CPU will run just fine, in fact, it’ll run even better.

        They can afford to do the ARM check because there aren’t any non-Snapdragon devices that legally run Windows 11 on ARM in the first place.

        If this check triggers, the user is running an unsupported configuration that Microsoft already doesn’t want users to run, exactly because the software assumes the system passes the base spec at the very least. They’ve explicitly told everyone their software isn’t designed to run on older hardware, so I don’t see why they should be making their OS work on it. Why invest the time and money to debug the OS on some Intel Atom from 2009 that barely manages to boot the OS in the first place?

  • sir_pronoun@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I have not dared to test my games with proton on Linux, but if they all work, Windows will be nothing but a VM for me that I use for the exceptions when something doesn’t run under wine. Sheesh.

    • iflyspaceships@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I made the switch on my daily driver laptop about 4 months ago. I mainly play games like Factorio, Dwarf Fortress and Rimworld, and they all work fine. Only trouble Ive had is with older games like Red Alert. Check out ProtonDB

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I decided to play Commandos (1998) and it worked as perfectly fine as it would on Windows. It required a fan patch to support higher resolution and 16:9, but that patch worked fine too. The only large issues I’ve experienced so far are with multiplayer. For example, The Finals hadn’t updated their version of Easy Anti-cheat to a version that supported Linux so it didn’t work for a while, but it does now. That might actually be the only game that was an issue for me, and now it isn’t.

    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 months ago

      You can check all your games on ProtonDB. That being said, almost any single player game will work. Same with any multiplayer game that doesn’t insist on poorly implemented anti-cheat

    • moody@lemmings.world
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      2 months ago

      IME, there’s very little that won’t run. I don’t have a single game in my Steam library that doesn’t run just fine. The most I’ve had to do to run anything was to try different versions of Proton, and that’s as easy as choosing from a dropdown menu.

      • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        And what if we have a ton of games outside of steam?
        My next pc will probably have linux, and my current windows as vm. I will get them to work hehe

        • moody@lemmings.world
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          2 months ago

          Non-steam games can be added to Steam and run from there. There are also other launchers such as Lutris and Heroic that can help you install, manage, and run games from other marketplaces or other non-standard sources.

          • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Figured as much, as proton seems to be focused purely on handheld devices needing launchers etc. But thats ok, means they are (hopefully) upstreaming back to wine

            • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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              2 months ago

              You’ll still be using proton in Lutris or Bottles most likely, at least for games. Proton is just a compatibility layer. Proton is absolutely not focused on handhelds. It’s just performance improvements for Wine for Windows games.

              You may be thinking of SteamOS.

        • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          2 months ago

          A combination of Lutris, Bottles, and Proton GE has covered me so far. I find Lutris more gaming focused, and I have used Bottles a lot for little windows programs that aren’t really games (as an example, some stuff I have for making TTRPG maps and tokens and stuff that I could probably find alternatives to, but they work fine in Bottles so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ).

      • BruceTwarzen@kbin.social
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        2 months ago

        I haven’t tried linux for like 8 years now and my oly problem was that the games i played back then weren’t supported by linux. I kinda want them to force me to dip into linux again. Last week or so i had to solve a fucking riddle to start my computer to not accidentally accept anything. I hate it so much.

        • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          2 months ago

          And that wasn’t enough to force you to try Linux again? Does Billy Gates have to sodomize your dog, or where is the line? lol

        • prole@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          2 months ago

          I switched to EndeavourOS (no dual boot to fall back on needed since I received a “work laptop” with Windows 11) about a year ago, first time using Linux period, let alone as a daily driver, and all I can say is that it has been a wonderful experience. I will never use Windows on a personal machine again.

          Full disclosure: I have a brother who has been using Linux for a while that helped me through the install process, and basically showed me how to search Google (and the Arch wiki) if I run into any issues, and I have yet to run into anything serious enough to require his attention (which I’m sure he’s thankful for). Small things here or there that I’ve been able to fix myself have gone a long way to helping me grasp (at least a little bit) what’s going on under the hood.

          Additionally, while I don’t have a background in comp sci, I grew up during a time where we needed to know how computers worked beyond “press the button on the screen for the thing to start”, so I was already pretty comfortable with the command line and all that.

          So I had a little help, but I’m not exaggerating when I say that I haven’t needed his direct help since installation.

          As far as games are concerned, most of my PC gaming these days is on my Steam Deck, and even on there I’ve gotten games that Steam labels “unsupported” to work. For example, Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition with DSFix works great despite being “unsupported” on Steam.

          As others have said, check out protondb.

      • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Honestly the site is kind of useless, every time I look at it games that work perfectly out of the box with no changes will practically say that they don’t work at all and vice versa games that don’t work at all will say they run without issue.

        Not to mention the amount of people putting literally fucking hundreds of completely worthless flags that actually do literally nothing whatsoever in the code swearing left right and Center that it does something. I kind of wish that site would just disappear

          • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Usually it’s one flag that actually does something, surrounded by about 8 to 9 flags that do absolutely nothing. “flag soup” as developers like to call it. People add all of them at once and so they assume all of them are doing something when in reality only one of them did anything at all

            • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              I definitely believe that. you’re using filters to cater to your setup, right? Typically if I set those filters I look for the simplest tips and try those. At least half the time it works first try (these are only cases where the game needed tinkering to get working properly)

          • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            No need, you can just look at the source code and see that that flag is not defined anywhere. It’s not going to do anything it’s not even being parsed it’s just getting ignored. The creator of dxvk complains about this all the time. People piling on completely useless or redundant flags and spreading them everywhere.

            • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
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              2 months ago

              I dunno man, can’t know unless you try the flags. Might work. It worked for that guy.

  • Lexam@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Hi, yeah. Uh long time listener, first time caller. Thank you for taking my question. Yes, I was wondering does Linux do this? I’ll take my answer off the air. Thanks!

  • ulkesh@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I’ll grab the popcorn while I watch the dumpster fire of what Microsoft is doing to Windows, from the comfort of my Linux-running system.

    Obligatory BTW I use Arch.

    • neutron@thelemmy.club
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      2 months ago

      Cries in corporate systems, balls deep in Microsoft ecosystem.

      All my personal devices are running Linux however.

      • blindsight@beehaw.org
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        2 months ago

        Yeah, this is where I’m at. O365, Teams, OneDrive, Azure, evening.

        Except that my “personal” device is my work device. (I get a stipend to maintain my own tech.)

        My Steam Deck runs Linux, at least?

  • aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    God damn. It went down hill fast. I’m actually gonna start looking at distros. Fuck. I just bought a mini pc to install OPNsense on but I think my weekend just drastically shifted.