• natural_motions@lemmynsfw.com
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    4 months ago

    Tell yourself you’re nuanced all you want, there is no justification for supporting genocide. And it certainly doesn’t give you the right to talk down to others as if you are moral or “know better”.

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      4 months ago

      It’s weird that all the “genocide Joe” posters I’ve seen lately have all been coming from lemmnsfw.com.

      Anyway. Let’s reframe this as a trolley problem.

      Imagine you are Biden, you have zionists in your party in both houses, zionists in the DNC, zionists among your donors as well as an array of people with vested interests in the military industry.

      Now you can either try and hard line aid to Israel, get completely dicked on by the entire party, lose donors to the Trump campaign and make an already uncomfortablely tight race even worse for yourself and potentially hand Trump the presidency who in turn gives Israel the go ahead to wipe Palestine off the map. Knowing that even if you don’t give Trump the win Israel won’t stop their genocide.

      Or you can just work in soft pressure, keep your keys to power happy and make what difference you can by doing stuff like sending aid that doesn’t piss off the zionists and maybe save the Palestinians from a Trump backed Israel?

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      4 months ago

      The only opinion I can come to about the conflict is “God this is all so fucked that it shuts me down mentally”

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      4 months ago

      The hell it doesn’t. You’re being spoiled children, so we talk to you like you’re being spoiled children.

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        4 months ago

        I’m “spoiled” for being unwilling to support genocide…

        Jesus, do you people ever listen to yourselves? Like, go ahead and say that aloud to yourself “Refusing to support genocide is spoiled”. Sit with it a second and really mull over what kind of person says that kind of thing.

        Talking down is literally the only rhetorical trick you have, because you know you have no morally defensible position.

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          4 months ago

          because you know you have no morally defensible position.

          There is no morally defensible position at all. That’s fucking life sometimes.

          You would understand this if you weren’t a spoiled child.

          You have blood on your hands no matter what choice you make. Thinking you can sit it out and have your conscience be clean is what’s childish. If Trump is elected, and kills more Gazans even faster, and sanctions the killing of more gay and trans people, that blood is on your hands for standing by and letting it happen.

          Grow the fuck up and choose the option for less blood.