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Cringe meme
Democrats are not Left and they won’t want you to have healthcare… Or we’d have it when they had all the branches. Try again Democrat bot.
SAY THE LINE BART!
“I didn’t do it”
Or we’d have it when they had all the branches
You mean the supermajority that was 72 working days?
I mean sure the party isn’t so progressive. But “why didn’t they fix X?” is a bit stale. Either way, FPtP sucks.
Try again Democrat bot.
Beep boop dipshit.
Very cool
Bro real shit just don’t pay your medical bills. They literally cannot make you pay them, and they are used to insurance companies not paying the full price, so they are already prepared to write it off as a tax loss. You give everyone free healthcare and people will be going to the ER for allergies and it will slow down the entire medical system. You needn’t look farther than Canada. At least this way everyone can be seen in a timely manner
They CAN make you pay them. They can go as far as garnishing your wages if you just ignore them.
But in my experience they won’t. I’ve actually done that several times and it was fine. Even so, my credit rating is considered “Excellent” by all the bureaus.
They want you to have paid healthcare to protect their lobbyists’ profits.
Unless you fall under medicare or medicaid, have fun paying insane insurance costs to cover your medical bills because the “left” is too busy using all their budget to fund a genocide.
So is this supposed to sway centrists to democrat?
So are you trying to create voter apathy and make sure Trump gets elected, comrade?
I think its supposed to sway centrists to Republican.
I mean, revolting against the government is an age-old celebrated patriotic tradition. But a socialized medical system? Sounds like leftists want to turn us into Venezuela.
Sway centrists? No, this is to make fun of their idiocy (or pretend centrism). If they would be swayed, living in a world where the issues in the panel are repeatedly thrown at them would have done it already. Those morons deserve nothing but ridicule.
The hot new thought-terminating cliche
The Democrats are currently supporting a genocide in Gaza and are violently attacking the first amendment.
Don’t pretend this is about healthcare.
You need to post more or to the gulag, comrade.
Let’s be real here: the entire US government is supporting a genocide in Gaza. Trying to make it out to be a problem only on the left feels incredibly dishonest.
Oh it’s not a problem with the left, it’s a political party thing. And they are the ones in charge, the ones in control of the State Department and Pentagon Leahy processes. Congress can pass whatever it wants, unless it passes a repeal of Leahy with a veto proof majority, the administration has very solid ground to stand on. They just refuse to do so.
so did you read the comment you replied to or
Yes and it reads like an attempt to both sides this issue when it’s one specific political organization responsible for it.
Ok, so if the Republicans took power tomorrow what do you think their policy would look like re: Gaza?
I wouldn’t care because I would be protesting their illegal takeover of the government.
1st, 2nd, 4th just for starters
What left? lmao Besides, both sides are ultimately bought and paid for the same interest groups and billionaires. The acts of individuals on the ground have little to do with the actual policies being passed. The only difference is that the democrats won’t call you a slur while they fuck you over. It’s not centrist to recognize the current state of affairs within American politics. Biden made tons of promises he never acted on. We will never have any real advancement until something fundamentally changes.
To be fair either one are so rightwing by european standards, that french will blow dust off National Razor.
I’ve seen the “both sides” phrase used to criticize leftists (e.g. people who voted for Bernie or Warren in the 2020 primaries) and moderates (e.g. people who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries) so I don’t really know what it means anymore.
Yeah… It’s actually liberal moderates who think there’s a difference between the 2 parties… Progressives (leftists) understand that both parties are working for the same corporate sponsors.
Centrists do tend to abandon rhyme schemes when rapping.
Christ. Let go of the fucking j6 shit. It won’t win you anything. You can’t use something that only you see as a lever. It’s just a plank of wood with no fulcrum.
“Both sides” has to do with theory of power. They have different policies, but both think they own us all the same.
Left party? Where is it?? Are you talking about the narcoleptic grampa who loves to bomb kids? boi oh boi, you guys live in fairyland…
Liberals aren’t left. You guys have far right and neolib mid-right
Liberal just means not conservative. There is no monolithic body called “the liberals” whose beliefs are all alike. It’s a spectrum.
It’s frankly incredible how often this needs to be stated.
A lot of us speak colloqial, speaking colloquial is more common. You cannot enter a discourse held by laymen, assume and use academic definitions, and expect to be understood or agreed with
Maybe not if the definition is left assumed to be shared, but you’d think the layman may come to a richer understanding of meaning once presented with a precise distinction .
Much of the English speaking world uses liberal to mean its formal definition, for example, the Liberal Democratic Party in the UK.
There’s distinct flavors of liberalism in political science. For example in Classical Liberalism most modern conservatives are included because they want a democratic government.
That’s kind of my point. Saying ‘liberal just means not conservative’ is so vague that it’s effectively meaningless.
I also think it’s done intentionally to normalize/consolidate voting patterns for a set of people who share very little actual views or policy goals and enforce a political binary. In that way I think it’s worse than meaningless - it’s actively harmful.
Both parties engage in this word play. It’s about creating a team mentality.
Well as long as you’re aware of the coercion
Cool, one side is more to the left than the other side, so that makes them left. Comments like yours are both extremely fucking useless and getting old.
Liberals aren’t left.
Leftism is when you’re in favor of a 3% increase in the marginal tax rate, an increase in the number of Pell Grants issued annually, and an expansion of eligibility for Medicaid under a new means testing regime…
What you’re thinking of is the Far-Left, which is when you become an Authoritarian National Socialist and kill 6M Jews, like Joseph Stalin did when he illegally invaded Germany.
Its called Horseshoe Theory. And if you weren’t so busy skipping classes to go protest Joe Biden, maybe you’d have learned about it.
Lol
Lmao
That’s ironic. You obviously skipped political ideology at the 200 level.
Yes, it’s literally a sarcastic comment.
I don’t know how to tell you this but here goes. There are people who actually believe what they’ve said. It’s not a modest proposal, it’s Holocaust denial which is a central theme to modern fascists.
There are people who actually believe what they’ve said.
From the halls /r/libertarian to the shores of /r/anachy. Its weapon’s grade radical centrism.
If this is a joke it’s gone down rather poorly. At best it reads like Schroedinger’s Joke Propaganda.
Did you just blame the holocaust on the soviets? really?
I think they’re calling the nazis hard left, which is its own, different flavor of dumb.
It’s neither, it’s a sarcastic comment.
which is when you become an Authoritarian National Socialist and kill 6M Jews, like Joseph Stalin did when he illegally invaded Germany
Maybe, but it really reads like he is saying the soviets killed 6m jews when they “illegally” invaded germany
This is a sarcastic comment, lol
The number of people completely missing your sarcasm is unfortunately unsurprising.
I will admit that I was jabated by this comment until I read yours and had to go reread it
All peolpe who say all liberals aren’t left are idiots who like to lump everyone into one box to make their point.
Neoliberalism is a far right ideology brought to mainstream politics by Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher. Later embraced by the most right wing of the american pseudo left like Clinton who abandoned their traditional union and grassroot support for the big banks and extra large corporate funding. This led to the embracement of neo conservativism by Newt Gingrich and the right in general to differentiate themselves from the new political shift from the pseudo left wings encroachment on their bread basket, the corporations. Enter the US downward spiral to our current political landscape as the leolibreal wing matches ever right and the conservative wing courts the endless bag of batshit crazy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
Just because the word has the root liber in it does not make it left on a political spectrum.
Liberalism is pro-Capitalist, it was only ever considered left wing when it was revolutionary, ie in feudalism.
In the modern, Capitalist and Imperialist era, Liberalism supports the status quo and is right wing because of it.
I only ever see “both sides are the same” as a atrawman, here. I’ve never seen it presented genuinely, generally I see “I have issues with the Democrats” and the only response is either “but the other guys are worse” and “bOtH sIDeS aRe ThE sAmE!!”
ALMOST as if having an actual conversation about the problems people with the Democrats makes people uncomfortable.
The only things liberals know how to do are using whataboutism to deflect all criticism of the Democrats by talking about the Republicans, and doing genocide apologia.
If you really want to change the party, JOIN it, convince like-minded people to join, and start changing it from the inside.
You know, like the way Trump and MAGA changed the Republicans.
MAGA had the support of moderate Republicans.
Leftists and progressives do not have the support of moderate and liberals. They made this clear in the 2020 primaries. Anyone to the left of Biden was too radical. Liberals and moderates made it clear again yesterday when they celebrated police breaking up the protestors. When Biden was asked if the protests have made him reevaluate his policies in Israel he simply said “No”.
There’s no room for us in the Democrat party so I’ll be voting 3rd party.
Voting third party for president won’t solve that problem, it will just help, in your case, a more right wing POTUS get into office, one who has proven to be especially dangerous to our democracy. It’s a dumb idea because it’s counter productive to your goals and virtually useless.
If you want better representation you’ll have to work from the ground up by getting people into office that will move to end fptp voting.
You’re trying to play the game with the rules you want it to have, not with the rules it actually has.
Voting third party for president won’t solve that problem
I’m aware I have no way of solving this problem. Never claimed otherwise.
If you want better representation you’ll have to work from the ground up by getting people into office that will move to end fptp voting.
Even if progressives and leftists managed to get a halfway decent candidate through the primaries all that would happen is that liberals and moderates would be the ones who vote Republican, vote 3rd party or don’t show up. We’re at an impasse.
You’re trying to play the game with the rules you want it to have, not with the rules it actually has.
Actually I think that’s what you’re doing. The rules that it has are I get to choose who I vote for. Not you.
I’m aware I have no way of solving this problem. Never claimed otherwise.
Then it makes even less sense to vote for a third party because you know it doesn’t do anything.
Even if progressives and leftists managed to get a halfway decent candidate through the primaries all that would happen is that liberals and moderates would be the ones who vote Republican, vote 3rd party or don’t show up. We’re at an impasse.
I’m not taking about the primary, i’m talking about how the vote is done. If we can get rid of fptp voting system, and replace it with something like star voting, then people are more free to vote for who they want instead of using reason and voting strategically. This is the way to increase the chances of getting more liberal people elected.
The rules that it has are I get to choose who I vote for. Not you.
By no stretch of the imagination did I even remotely suggest I get to choose who you vote for.
Then it makes even less sense to vote for a third party because you know it doesn’t do anything.
I can stay home if that would make you feel better?
If we can get rid of fptp voting system
Never going to happen with the kind of candidates who make it through the primaries.
By no stretch of the imagination did I even remotely suggest I get to choose who you vote for.
Ok then accept I’m going to vote 3rd party and stop trying to convince me to do something else.
The DNC has made it clear they’re not interested in moving to the left and that they’re perfectly happy gradually meandering further right. Sure, 30 million Democrats might see it differently but the people voting aren’t actually in charge.
I’ve been doing that for 20 years. Between that and spit in my hand at least the hand with spit has something to show for the effort.
They will make an argument like my mom where they just think its all rigged anyway, and then vote for the firsf radical they see even if ifs Traitor Trump. You have to realize these people are not even slightly informee
I don’t like this meme because the last two panels don’t rhyme.
I think they’re going for tried a coup / want you rhyme but the scanscion doesn’t work
