It’s terrible for everyone except billionaire property investors.
The cats out of the bag, and businesses know it.
This is why they never want us succeeding in improving our lives. It reveals how they’ve been lying to us and we were just stupid enough to go along with it.
Already is.
My commute is already about 10% longer thanks to the extra traffic. People fled the city and moved to the burbs after covid, then RTO hit and now a bunch of them are on the roads. Easily added a measurable amount of time to my drive, and I’ve been doing the same commute for a decade.
Less so if we build better cities thst dont require everyone to drive cars everywhere to do anything
Could be? It absolutely is! That would be an extra 50 miles I would have to drive every weekday. They have entire global organizations meeting together to figure out where to set goals for cutting emissions, but these easily-avoidable emissions are fine apparently. The so-called “leaders” aren’t taking the problem seriously.
Never, never, never, will I spend 1h the morning and 1h the evening in traffic jam to do 15 miles, never again.
I’m curious, do you have to go to the office any days?
2 or 4 days every 10 weeks, it’s 500kms away (300 miles) I stay at hotel
Same for me. Last day i worked in an office was March 2020. Haven’t done a single day since and don’t intend to ever again
Same, March 2020, in 2020-2022 I never went to office not even one day. 2023 got another contract for a year, went there 3 or 4 times in the year to take/bring back some hardware I needed for development. 2024 new remote job 500kms away, go there 2 days every 10 weeks, stay at hotel, they pay.
Amen.
I was one day a week in the office during the pandemic. We had assets which required a physical presence, but with a rotating shift of 1-2 people in the office each day, we could keep the required coverage. Then my workplace started bringing us back to the office in 2022. It started with 3 days a week and we started hearing rumors of a full return to office. It was well know that upper management was hostile to remote work. So, I flipped my LinkedIn profile to “looking” (or whatever the setting was called, it’s been a while). And I started both actively applying and responding to recruiters. I eventually got a message from a reciter who led with “REMOTE WORK OPPORTUNITY”, yes the message started in ALL CAPS, though the rest was normal and hit all the points I was interested in. I figured, what the hell, can’t hurt to talk. That was just shy of two years ago, I have been into an office since late 2022. It’s going to have to be a hell of a bad situation for me to deal with commuting again.
RTO, much like everything else is about rich people. The Canadian Federal government just announced that all public servants must be in office 60% of the time by September (up from 40%). And the only reason is due to lobbying by real estate holders and businesses downtown.
I’m so fucking tired of rich people not only having the advantage of being rich but also getting every other advantage handed to them by the government.
Yeah. It’s why I have no respect for any regular person who looks out for these rich fuckers.
They never, ever look out for us.
Unnecessary RTO needs to be banned
Yes, but who determines necessity
The supply and demand of labor. Labor is a market and the market has decided that office work that can be done remotely but is being required to be done in person in an expensive city costs significantly more, either due to housing costs in the city or the cost of longer commutes. Don’t like it? Move your office to a cheaper, less populated location.
Maurice?
Is that the dude sometimes known as The Space Cowboy?
You mean The Gangster of Love?
Doesn’t he speak of the pompatus of love?
He is a frequent topic of conversation.
“Could be?”
We know it is. I don’t wish for Covid again, but remember when all the waterways started clearing up (didn’t dolphins show up in Venice at some point?) and the smog cleared in places that haven’t seen a blue sky in decades?
Bird Flu this time.
“Just speculations, nobody really knows and there’s no way to find out!”
You joke, but a coworker literally said “well there’s no way to really know for sure it was because people were staying inside, it was probably just more forest food than usual that spring” when I pointed out a positive if covid being nature bouncing back just a tiny bit.
Also can someone tell me what “forest food” is? Sure I know what he meant but that’s no fun
We had a perfect enforced experiment to show that remote work for many positions was just as effective, that people were happier, the environment improved, and that big societal changes were totally possible. Then rich people decided the ideal goal for society was just doing all the same bad shit we’d been doing for decades.
I’m someone who vastly prefers to work in an office. It’s kind of a pain in the ass dealing with remote workers, meetings having gone to teams instead of in person, it just feels impersonal and as a former manager it is harder to maintain and eke your staff engaged.
But this is the modern workforce, and we have plenty of evidence that productivity is still there with a hybrid or remote office. When I was a manager I had to change my strategies, I had to adapt and learn, just like everything else I do in my professional life. Now that I am part of leadership but without direct reports, it’s just more adapting and learning that I am doing to stay relevant.
poor management is why all these companies are trying to force people back, it’s just people who cannot adapt.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
lol, was kinda going for that :)
You mean the same companies responsible for our current climate may not care about what RTO does to their workers or the world?
: shocked Pikachu:
Yeah but it’ll make a bunch of fuckbrains feel good, tho.
Some Executives have no understand of the need for Deep Work and can’t imagine how the office isn’t good for it.
The problem is executives have no need of deep work, that’s what they hire others for. Bad executives don’t understand this and assume you need what they need.
Could be? Seriously?
But my company says it cares for the environment and does environmental things like improving algorithms for patches to reduce computing power needed and therefore save the energy worldwide (an actual example of a recent win by our environment consciousness team right after forcing thousands of people to RTO)
