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Misinformation campaigns increasingly target the cavity-fighting mineral, prompting communities to reverse mandates. Dentists are enraged. Parents are caught in the middle.
The culture wars have a new target: your teeth.
Communities across the U.S. are ending public water fluoridation programs, often spurred by groups that insist that people should decide whether they want the mineral — long proven to fight cavities — added to their water supplies.
The push to flush it from water systems seems to be increasingly fueled by pandemic-related mistrust of government oversteps and misleading claims, experts say, that fluoride is harmful.
“The anti-fluoridation movement gained steam with Covid,” said Dr. Meg Lochary, a pediatric dentist in Union County, North Carolina. “We’ve seen an increase of people who either don’t want fluoride or are skeptical about it.”
There should be no question about the dental benefits of fluoride, Lochary and other experts say. Major public health groups, including the American Dental Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, support the use of fluoridated water. All cite studies that show it reduces tooth decay by 25%.
So we’ve circled back to to water/fluoride water conspiracies again?
History, doomed to repeat, before our very eyes once more…
Can always rely on the classics to stir up the rubes. A new sucker born every minute.
No, but not for any health reasons, it just tastes like shit lol
Hey, I’m relevant!
You’re blowin up!
I’d say that this is the kind of thing we elect leaders to decide and implement for us, but my leaders are a bunch of fucking morons.
The people who elect them are morons.
I tried fluoride-free toothpaste for one year during college. Came home for the summer with 12 cavities.
Fluoride works people.
General Ripper has entered the chat.
The thing that seriously hurts those anti-fluoridation nuts is that fluoride can naturally be in water supplies and there are water supplies with higher PPM fluoride amounts than municipalities that add them in the U.S., but there don’t appear to be any increased health issues.
Not that such people generally care.
As I said to a friend years ago: show me one case of fluoride poisoning…just one and I’ll believe you that it’s dangerous.
He couldn’t. End of discussion.
Found this through a quick internet search if you’re interested.
Potential Role of Fluoride in the Etiopathogenesis of Alzheimer’s Disease
Aluminium and fluoride in drinking water in relation to later dementia risk
Higher levels of aluminium and fluoride were related to dementia risk in a population of men and women who consumed relatively low drinking-water levels of both.
Internets sleuthing points to you!
A massive accidental overdose (150x) in a water system, leading to acute illness and one death, for those interested.
Children can theoretically get fluorosis in their teeth if they chug mouthwash, but it’s a pretty uncommon thing to do.
But… but… freedom!
It’s not fluoride poisoning. You’re asking for something you’re assuming is the issue before understanding the problem. I think that fluoridation was useful when it was needed as oral health would have suffered and not having it wouldn’t have been better. Now the science is shifting and instead of assuming you know, just read something or watch a doctor talk. Maybe your friend isn’t the one to be fighting for water fluoridation. And maybe, just maybe, you are both not knowledgeable in the subject. I’m not either! That’s why I listen to doctors who present the science clearly and correctly (and without a monetary interest!).
NutritionFacts.org - Why I Changed My Mind on Water Fluoridation
We evolved to get our nutrients from natural sources, some of those sources water … and we are filtering a lot of it out arbitrarily then being afraid to put it back.
There was an argument made a while back that filtering the lithium out of our water is messing with folks too.
Good luck getting the powers that be to start lithidating water.
So we took the lead out of the air and that made people less crazy, but we also took the lithium out of the water and that made people more crazy.
Hooray us.
To be fair we were putting the lead into the air in the first place.
That’s actually how we discovered that fluoride in public drinking water is good for your teeth. Colorado Springs had natural fluoride in their drinking water and their rate of cavities was way lower than the national average, so some dentists searched around to figure out the cause.
I’m a sane libertarian (I promise some of us do exisit). People absolutely have a right to determine what goes in to their body, but fluoride is such a weird hill to die on. In particular when fortified grains are a mandate of the same ilk. All of this has a history, and shocker, it was always steeped in the same “but our culture” wrapping…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=reYKBgdrZsM&pp=ygUWUGVsbGFncmEgZXh0cmEgaGlzdG90eQ%3D%3D
Yeah, it seems like complaining about government provided WiFi.
“What if I don’t WANT my kids on the internet dangit!?”
Here in Germany, drinking water isn’t fluoridated but fluoridated salt is sold at every grocery store. I assume that fluoridated salt isn’t as easily available to those in the US who could now end up without fluoridated water, is it?
I have never seen fluoridated salt in the U.S. Our salt usually has iodine in it to make up for the iodine deficiency that was in American diets before that happened.
We’ve got both iodine and fluoride in our salt in Germany.
Das healthenboostensodiumchloride?
Nein, das Jodsalz mit Fluorid.
What is the big freakout about fluoride water lately? Haven’t we been doing that for decades?
It’s the newest fad in medical conspiracy theory panic.
it’s old as fuck as well. they hate the idea of recycling but love to recycle bullshit.
Just let the fuckers teeth fall out already. I am tired of so much effort being spent on people who clearly want to die. It is everything, from seatbelts to motorcycle helmets to vaccines to transfats to HFC drinks. They want to die? Let them. Maybe darwinism will save us from them maybe it won’t but at least we can all stop hearing about it.
I’m pretty sure people criticized Republicans when they cheered on the whole “let them die” thing…
A slicht problem with this approach is that for vaccines to be effective for anyone almost everybody has to be vaccinated…
Over enough time the only remaining people will be the vaccinated.
Hi, I’m shit at brushing my teeth long enough/regularly enough. I am glad fluride is in the water.
Hi I’m someone who has concerns about animal testing and is sensitive to SLS causing mouth ulcers/generally ruining taste for a while, unfortunately hippy toothpaste often lacks fluride for insane reasons. I am glad fluride is in the water.
Hi I’m a kid with horrible parents that neglect my dental care. I am glad fluride is in the water.
“Just let people hurt themselves” is never that easy.
There are fluoride rinses you can buy for fairly cheap
We let people raise kids with religion
Could you be a little less online about stuff. If you’re lile 15 and just coming out of indoctrination with limited support around I forgive you, otherwise Jesus christ mate get a grip.
Sorry no one is buying your shit Xian
Do you talk to people like this in real life?
Did you enjoy your weekly pretend time this Sunday, Xian?
Ok so seems clear to me there’s no real harm, but is there alleged benefit for adults? I’ve never had to rely on a municipal well so as a kid I had fluoride treatments and used fluoridated paste, but always thought it was just for kids. Is there benefit for me as a 40yo (with no cavities if it matters)?
Fluoride in water is the reason you have no cavities and will continue to have few to no cavities. Centuries ago you’d be lucky to have your teeth, the toothpaste definitely helps but the fluoride in water probably has a bigger impact on society overall
Sorry, you misunderstand. I don’t rely on a municipal well, and adding fluoride to private wells isn’t a thing AFAIK.
That’s why as a child I had fluoride treatments. It would have been easier to just get it in the water, but tradeoffs. My kids get them too.
I was wondering about the fluoride treatments being child only or whether there were adult benefits.
There are adult benefits, yes. Fluoride re-mineralises teeth (in contrast to cavities) to a super-physiological state. Meaning: If tooth enamel is in the beginnings of a cavity state fluoride will fight that process and possibly repair the enamel to a state stronger than before.
Yes
All cite studies that show it reduces tooth decay by 25%
But because of my sugar intake, my teeth are shit anyway
/s
Put the lithium in already.
Fuck it, put in arsenic
Ah. The benefits of being a boron based lifeform.
heavy metal riff