• bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net
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    4 months ago

    Both sides aren’t the same. The DNC is run by PR executives who don’t care about winning or losing as long as they make a percentage on the ad spend for the election. The GOP, meanwhile, is run by corrupt politicians who need to win in order to quid for a later quo of a do nothing million dollar a year job for a megacorporation. Perhaps it would be most fruitful to reflect on how you try to “persuade” voters and examine if that contributes to the toxicity of the DNC brand and the likelihood of voters unhappy with their performance turning out.

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      4 months ago

      You keep talking like the only options are to hand the election to Trump and have the fight under that political landscape, or vote against Trump then suddenly not have that fight at all.

      That’s simply not how it works.

      You can muse about these things all day, but like I said, one of 2 outcomes is possible this November.

      If you’re going to have this fight, one of those outcomes will make it significantly harder to have.

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        4 months ago

        If you’re right and Trump is going to successfully end electoral politics, assuming you win 2024 by the skin of your teeth, you’re just delaying fate until 2028, when Trump will run again and beat Kamala, who the DNC will ordain as the candidate despite her disastrous 2020 run (or it will be long enough since Hillary lost they’ll force her on us again). Either way we lose and Trump wins eventually. If anything, a win in 2024 will leave the DNC with fewer state and legislative seats to prevent literal constitutional amendments (see the 1000+ state-level seats Obama lost during his term and the general trend of losing congressional seats during a presidential term). It’s a sad reality, but it’s the fruit of the actions of a political party that hasn’t really been into winning at electoral politics since 1992. You’re probably going to bring up that Biden lost fewer seats than expected in 2022, but that’s not the own you think it is. The DNC could have readily kept the house in 2022, but decided to completely fuck the NY map so that the head of the DCCC could keep his seat (which he did not anyway) resulting in the loss of 5 seats that should have gone dem. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it actually care about being the firewall against the GOP’s extremism it pretends to be.

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      4 months ago

      I’m just commenting that I appreciate you being the one to actually discuss points in this thread. I agree with the other guy, but I’m praising efforts here.