This meme is CLEAR illustration of how these people don’t understand that in reality, there’s a thing called “nuance.” And that everything in the universe exists within the grey area in between their illusory everything is either black or white ideology.
In short: THE REAL WORLD ISN’T A TV SHOW.
is “nuance” the same as nuance or are they different ?
It’s called Scare quotes. The quotes are to put the word into the perspective of people that don’t believe in it,
You want the fucking truth? The truth is that no, they didn’t fucking side with the resistance in any of those. They decided to keep their mouth shut because they don’t care about the rules unless those rules are biased towards them and they fucking know it.
Kill yourselves. All of you. All of humanity. Or just kill me. I’m fucking done living in YOUR world.
Get some fresh air dude
I did and it made it worse. Kill me.
You watched starship troopers and sided with the humans… Oh wait…
You watched die hard and sided with the terrorists. Join the resistance bois
FOR MANAGED DEMOCRACY AND SUPER EAAAAAARTH
/c/helldivers2 is leaking again
You were awake when your elementary school teacher taught you about the American Civil War, and you didn’t side with the resistance.
At this point, I alone am the fucking villain. I don’t CARE what you subscribe to. You can be a vegan solarpunk eco-terrorist, you can be a gun-weilding nutjub, you can be reasonable, you can be unreasonable, fuck it. I want you dead or me dead because I fucking hate all of humanity.
a well adjusted lemming here ^^
The fucked up part is that the right wingers think they are the resistance. And that the liberals are the evil empire trying to take over everything.
It’s like if the rebellion in Star Wars was fighting and sacrificing to get the emperor back in power.
Just the latest in a long, long list of things in the real world that would be too stupid to put in a work of fiction.
Unironically, it was. That’s kind of the hidden message behind Star Wars - the rebel alliance’s full name is “the Alliance to Restore the Republic” - the Republic was never worth restoring. It was a corrupt, oppressive regime which at best allowed fascism to take over and at worst actively was itself fascist.
Lol, is this dude a right winger? I just assumed lefty commie based on the rhetoric. Clearly we need to lower taxes on the rich to solve the problem.
Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age or a neo classical economist what tax breaks for the rich doesn’t fix.
Clearly we need to lower taxes on the rich to solve the problem.
This is what’s literally been happening since the early '80s. So far it’s not working out very well. And all those dipshits who want to roll back our country to the “Great Again” 1950’s and 60’s don’t seem to realize that that is when we had the absolute highest tax rate on the wealthy in the country. It was at almost 90% marginal tax rate.
But no, you think what’s holding them back from spending their massive wealth is that the government is taking too much right now. 🙄 What a joke.
Imagine a movie where some random guys and a scientist need to find a cure to a zombie outbreak or some chemical attack. They did it, we saved the world, now people just have to take our medicine. Uhm, seems kinda rushed. Are zombies even real? My cousin said he knows a guy who worked with a guy who took it and now he’s blind from birth.
Yeah but in a movie there’s just as likely to be a twist that the medicine is what was turning people into zombies in the first place.
And which side in the real world is the “resistance”? The one that is portrayed by state sponsored media? The one that has a president in the White House? The one that dominates modern culture? If you’re a Democrat or a Republican, all of these statements apply to you, and you’re not part of the resistance, you’re part of the institution.
What state-sponsored media? RT? Al Jazeera? NPR? BBC? Be specific!
This is about Hamas not the uni-party theater in America.
Firey slacktivist takes abound
Imagine if neo had been throwing gay people off buildings or jedi were honor killing women that stray from their strict rules. V was a bit brutal and psycho but he didn’t parade dead women in the back of a pickup…
If you can’t understand why people don’t see the situation as simplisticly as a movie then you surely haven’t been paying attention to anything except what you want to hear
Link me your evidence of Hamas throwing gay people off buildings, mister well informed person.
Hamas isn’t “the resistance.” They’ve been in power in Gaza for almost twenty years. They murdered their political opposition and became a single party Islamic dictatorship.
Furthermore, they committed a massacre to provoke Israel into a war, in hopes that Israel’s response would lead to the brutal deaths of a lot of Palestinian civilians and lead the world to naively become sympathetic to their cause (destroying the state of Israel, instituting an Islamic dictatorship with Sharia law in Palestine, and eliminating all Jews, Christians, atheists, Hindu, and Shia Muslims from the region).
Hamas is cartoonishly evil. Much like Netanyahu.
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Yep
If I’m going to have such brain rot that I’ll be supporting Hamas after 8 months here I should probably just leave now.
Who knows. You might actually be able to find more nuance than r/worldnews has to offer. Or even learn to critically think about the difference between a party demanding a ceasefire and one rejecting a ceasefire.
In real life the “badies” think of themselves as “goodies”, so what some see as “goodies” vs “badies” others will see as “badies” vs “goodies”.
I mean, it would be really nice if the “badies” were going around openly admitting they’re hurting other people because of the pain of others makes them feel good or that they simply want to take their shit and not to have to worry about payback “because we killed the fuckers”, but that’s not what they do: they give justifications like “they attacked us, we’re just defending ourselves”, “they’re the ones who want to hurt/genocide us”, or even “we have Western (i.e. good) values whilst they’re human animals” (if this sounds a lot like Zionists propaganda points, that’s because they are, though it’s really a more general “Fascist etnostate”-speak genre).
they give justifications like “they attacked us, we’re just defending ourselves”, “they’re the ones who want to hurt/genocide us”
This is also the justification for Israel’s campaign in Gaza. The goal is to protect Israelis… it’s just there happens to be some Israelis in Gaza against their will right now as they’re being held hostage. And it’s not just Hamas that celebrates the massacre of Jews on October 7, you see signs at protests in the west celebrating it now.
Ah yes “protect israelis”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66682821a
War crime denying cunt.
The NAZIs also claimed their goal was to defend the Arian Race from the Jews who had infiltrated they system and wanted to destroy it.
All ethno-Fascists (who are far the worst and most violent kind of Fascist) claim that their goal is the protection of their ethnicity.
The way you spot their excuses are just ethno-Fascist bullshit rather than truthfull, is because they’re very overtly racist about their enemy (such as calling them “human animal” and claiming they’re all as an ethnicity violent based on the action of just a few), have calous disregard for the life of innocents (more thank 10k children murdered, journalists targetted, hospitals targetted, medical personnel executed and burried in common graves) and inflict incredibly disproportionate hurt to those they deem to be defending themselves from (the number of Palestinians killed just in Gaza now is already over 30x the Israelis killed on on the 7th of October and even before all that the rate of Palestinians killed vs Israelis killed in the ongowing occupation was in average above 10x, most of Gaza has been razed versus a few houses burned in Israel).
People genuinelly defending themselves don’t do those things.
It’s not by chance that the broader opinion in the West changed over time against Israel as the Gaza invasion went: people kept seeing more and more indications that what the Israelis were doing was not at all the “defending themselves” they claimed because it was a needlessly excessive and violent way, by quite an incredibly distance, to reach the goal they stated it was. So more and more people concluded this wasn’t defense, it was violent murderous offense to the level of Genocide.
Do you imagine anyone is triggered by comparing Israel to Nazis? Do you think anything you wrote is original. Nope. It’s boring. And wrong. Get some new propaganda, ok?
The IDF exists to protect Israeli people. You don’t seem to be aware of this, but there are currently Israeli people being held against their will in Gaza. Therefore the IDF is in Gaza. It’s not that complicated.
Lets make it extremelly simple to understand:
- Even the most violent murderous sociopathic regime in the History of Mankind claimed their actions were for “defense” of their ethnicity.
Hell, fucking Ku-Klux-Klan claims they’re defending “the white race”.
Every single violent racist fascist sociopath out there claims their murderous ways are “defense” and it’s always for an ethnicity and it’s always against people of another specific ethnicity.
Normal people who are not Fascists or Sociopaths do not claim they stand for an ethnicity, and they certainly do not murder tens of thousands of innocent civilians of a different ethnicity whilst claiming they’re doing it as “defense”.
So when the Zionists and the murderous sociopathic dogs in IDF who kill children and laugh about it, claim their murder of tens of thousands of children and other innocent civilians from another ethnocity is “defense”, everybody who is not a Moron or a Sociopath gets reminded of all the other violent murderous sociopathic regimes who did the exact same thing and used the exact same excuse, and, yeah, that includes the bloody Nazis.
Don’t want to be compared to the Nazis, don’t act like the fucking Nazis, don’t use the exact same fucking propaganda tricks as the Nazis.
Interesting that you think Hamas has the right to fight for the rights of their ethnicity but Israel doesn’t have the right to defend their people from Hamas making ethnic attacks.
I wish we lived in a world where a Jewish state wasn’t necessary because antisemitism didn’t exist anymore. But unfortunately that’s not the world we live in. Antisemitism is still alive and growing stronger. On October 7, Hamas succeeded in removing all doubt in my mind of the necessity of a Jewish state. The antisemitic acts of protesters in the West has only re-inforced that. The UN and many countries around the world showing sympathy for Hamas after they committed genocide, makes it certain there needs to be at least one country in the world where Jews can find sanctuary when the endless cycle of antisemitism turns people towards irrational hatred of Jews.
You will likely deny the antisemitsm happening in the world right now because that fits with the narrative being pushed on you by authoritarians. Your denial means nothing, because there’s more people that know what’s happening then there are people like you that rationalize your hatred. And even if you can get people in positions of power to fall in line with your hateful thoughts about Jews, there is a place they can go to escape that oppression that you want to inflict on Jews.
It’s not because of me that there needs to be a Jewish state. It’s because of people like you there needs to be a Jewish state.
That’s one big strawman you built there and I’m sure you thoroughly trashed it with that long post of yours.
Shame that I never said any of that and all you’re fighting is your own presumption that others think and see the World like yourself and hence that those who disagree with you must be a mirror image of you “on the other side”, complete with looking at everybody as “ethnics” and judging people’s actions based on their ethnicity.
Your entire post reads like The Racist’s View Of The World complete with thinking your “adversary” must be a racist of the “other side”, with race-based double standards and hypocrisy and riddled with prejudiced generalisations and presumptions about people belonging to various ethnicities including Jews, and is a wonderful example of the very ethno-Fascist sloganeering I’ve pointed out comes from Zionists.
Not a single Humanist argument in sight, not a single “respect for all human life independently of ethnicity” consideration, it’s all about race.
The term Jewish is complicated, as it’s a vague concept around both ethnicity and religion. Israel has conducted military operations in Africa to save Jews that are ethnically black in the past. So it’s not exactly an ethno-state as the narratives you want to believe tell you.
For the most part Israel is the anti-antisemitsm country. Victims of antisemitsm are welcome there because in the past there were no countries that would provide sanctuary to Jews fleeing oppression. And it’s easy to see that occurring again with the rise of antisemitism around the world lately.
The term Zionist is an attempt to create a permission structure for antisemitism. Overt racism towards all Jews will turn people off. But if you create a subset of Jews that it’s acceptable to attack then more people will be sympathetic. Once you’ve turned people against a subset of Jews then they will look the other way on overt antisemitsm by their allies.
Look into the term “Cosmopolitan Jew”. This isn’t the first time this has happened.
I am making humanist arguments, but if you’re having trouble understanding it may be because you’re not seeing Jews as being human.
This kind of stories rely on the same narratives that mass media : their is obvious injustice, and a way to fight it. Maybe if the first part of that stories spoke to us from the dominant side, it would be way more effective.
Andor showing us that agent from imperial political police want stability, to feed their family, and being respected. The Witcher, where a lot of people speak about Scoiatel as a racist group.
It shall not be something like “both side are equally evil” but “what make people act like that ? And Who have the choice, and who don’t ?”.
You watched “Ender’s Game” and sided with the humans executing genocide.
It depends a lot on how the story is told.
Nobody sided with the military in Ender’s Game once they understood what was really going on. That’s the whole point of the story.
You clearly did not read the book
Was the clue in the verb?
also in the takeaway
Just don’t pay to much attention to Starship Troopers.
And people do exactly what they did for those movies. Sit on the side and watch and hope…
So…
I did watch Dexter and sided with a psychopath, but I wouldn’t in real life… or would I??? :-D
Stupid take, I don’t know this person so not even sure which side he is talking about since all the sides use this argument precisely because people are stupid enough to make political decisions based on movies.
Which resistance are we talking about? “The Resistance” movement in response to Trump’s election in 2016? Or “the resistance” which tried to overthrow the election on January 6, 2021? Sorry for being myopically American, but being American, I assume that’s what we’re always talking about.
The resistance of poor people getting all their money taken by the rich since it seems their greed has no limit.
Complicated problems do not have simple solutions.
