It’s kinda sad, I hate it when people footgun themselves
Sure, you’ve got alligators swimming up to your house now, but just remember that for a brief, shining moment . . . profit was made.
whats the timeline on this?
Not soon enough. I’d love to throw a biblical flood joke in there just to spite the book burners and bible thumpers.
true dat. i feel for the innocent people caught in the middle though, but i was under the impression it wouldnt take that long for a damaging rise in sea levels.
That all depends on what we do to slow it down.
They’ll blame democrats of course
Shouting “Florida’s gone woke!” from the rooftops
More like the life rafts.
Two places that aren’t underwater
Well of course the rich will leave, then even with the gerrymandering Dems or even progressives can take control, just in time to be blamed like Biden for Trump’s tax hikes (the cuts were permanent for the rich and temporary followed by hikes for us plebs).
So, which backwater town will become the next big harbor City?
That’s the next real estate boom, better get in early
Better build it on pontoons.
I think if you’re in Florida, sell now and get out (sucks for whoever’s willing to buy). Not just the parts that will be submerged, get out of the whole place because the policies/insurance/laws/taxes (they will have to figure out ways to fund disaster relief) are going to go absolutely nuts for the whole state.
I hear Aquaman is ready to scoop up all of those underwater properties!
The poster who posted this is not very smart and is just pushing outrage, like they always do.
Read the graphic. The light blue is 5m (over 16 feet) and the other blue is 10m (over 32 feet). The estimate rise is about 2 feet in 2100. So not even the first area.
I hate to downplay the threat of climate change, because it is the biggest existential risk we’ve ever faced, but people like the OP do a disservice to the risk by posting these intentionally misleading graphics. And pushing things like “omg you have to be dumb to buy a place in Florida” (at least based on this graphic) is something that will likely backfire too.
It’s the same dumb shit that conservatives use to claim that it isn’t an issue because rich people are buying beach front property.
My aunt and uncle are buying a house there this year now that the kids are out of the house. We’re already only an hour away from the gulf, not sure what else they’re trying to find.
I wonder where the Florida refugees will go…
If we get the right
personrabbit, they won’t have anywhere to go.
Well, it won’t be easy for Florida to go hang with Hawaii and California.
Just nuke the state border and tow it through the Panama canal!
tow it through the Panama canal!
I coughed hard
Well, hopefully it’s not the Rona. Feel better soon fam!
Current models predict that climate displaced people in the US generally are all going to begin moving towards the Great Lakes as the least severely impacted parts of the country. Apparently to Wisconsin in particular since it’s less already inhabited than the rest of the region.
It gets very cold and snowy in the winters but the northern middle west dodge most of the serious tornadoes to the west and south, no significant risk for hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc. Plus a decent source of fresh water if we can keep it clean and not let corpos take it all for free. And not so close to coastal areas to flood or mountains trapping heat.
Right: https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/
Nowhere is really safe from climate change, but if you look at those maps, the worst stuff misses the upper Midwest. Which isn’t a real benefit either; it means taking on a lot of displaced climate refugees.
SHHHHHHH!
Assuming it’s still there, Disney World. Kinda surprised they haven’t tried to move it elsewhere by now tbh.
Disney would be rolling in his grave, he wanted walkable cities and rail.
On the plus side the islands will be awesome
Unfortunately that will flood many of the major cities in Florida, leaving it politically redder…
The people will float to the top so there will be a delicious blue creame skin to the state.
You really think all those silver hairs will stay. They will infest alabama and it will barely change a shade.
Gulf Shores will be long gone by then too, it’s gonna be some new beach near fucking Dothan
Yeah bro the same way Al Gore said within 10 years the Kilimanjaro would have no snow. Useful idiots
The glacial ice on Kilimanjaro has objectively been shrinking for the past century since we started measuring it.
The real question would be: was it also shrinking before?
Because if the trend was already negative might not be related to human activities
Well the thousands of years of ice core data disproves that so
Can you elaborate a bit?
I know that some icers on the Alps have been shrinking since the last 120 years (more or less since we started measuring them) a bit too early IMO for humans to be the cause, yet the melting has significantly accelerated in the last 30-40 years (which is likely to be correlated to human activities)
Sure. We’ve taken ice cores out of glaciers that are super long. Basically there’s an isotope of Oxygen that strongly correlates to air temperatures that we can measure at different levels of the core. We know roughly how much ice gets deposited onto the glacier every year so we can extrapolate how long ago each layer was deposited and then measure that isotope to get an estimate of how warm it was that winter going back a few thousand years. Taking that data and combining it with modern temperature readings we can see a sharp uptick around the late 19th century where increased human greenhouse gas output begins.
But that’s about the local temperature of the year, it says nothing about the glaciers shrinking or expanding, also if glaciers are shrinking, wouldn’t we lose some readings? I mean if the glacier this year is smaller than last year, means that we have lost at least one year readings (most likely much more than that), not to mention that it contradicts that ice gets deposited every year.
It is my understanding that glaciers expand and shrink seasonally every year, and lately the expansion (if any) is always smaller than the shrinking, but it is a trend that started more than 100y ago (basically since when we started keeping record) and has been accellerating, because of this how can you extrapolate when to start dating in reverse? If you never saw a the, let’s call it inflationary phase, how do you know when it reversed? The error might be small… or not
Is there an error in my reasoning (or my assumptions)? Consider that I am not the only one having this doubts.
Most of the glacial loss, especially on higher elevations, is from sublimation and not directly melting. That doesnt cause the loss of the measurable isotopes.
How are you alive today in 2024 and are not aware that there are essentially no people who study the climate for a living who think that the Earth isn’t warming and humans are not the cause?
Or is this one of those “I’m not going to listen to any dumb scienticificians when I have Jesus” arguments?
You are the only dogmatic one here
I just posed a question, worth thinking about, and you answered with a dogma, which I am not allowed to dispute.
I am not a denier, but I despise you climate Talibans like any other religious fanatic
i love that you think you posed a question you think no climatologist has thought about before.
“yeah we’ve been studying this for decades and the climate is definitely warming and the CO2 levels are rising…”
“well, could it be just a regular thing?”
all scientists start looking at each other confused
“uh… we didn’t check…”
congratulations on being the first to ask questions.
All climatologist on this thread, please raise your hand
which I am not allowed to dispute.
Who is not allowing you? I don’t see any comments deleted. You don’t appear to be banned.
you climate Talibans
Please explain exactly how I equate with the Taliban. Details, please.
Well reread what I wrote and what you wrote, I think it’s pretty obvious
From saying “if it was shrinking before it might not be related too human activities” you went full “how are you alive in 2024…” And answered as if I was denying the god revealed truth
That’s a Taliban mentality at work, you don’t discuss the truth
If you can’t see it, I can’t show it to you
BTW do you have the power to ban me? If you don’t then, what are you discussing about silencing and banning?
Again: You said you were not allowed to dispute it. Who is not allowing you?
people like you will get used to snorkeling to get to the grocery store before they accept climate change is happening.
Useful idiots? Who’s the one buying the lies of the fossil fuel industry?
Sounds like you’re the one being used.
You rich? You better be. Otherwise leopards love faces.
Being rich isn’t going to save your beachfront property from the next super hurricane. The leopards will be eating everyone’s faces.
But Lord Emperor Trump sold me this Bible and said that the Lord wouldn’t flood the earth again!?
Also this hat, whenever I wear it, people key my Ford F150.
Jokes on you Prius! You can have all the vegan fart sniffing you want while I roll coal!
'Murica!
(Also /s)
But they can just sell their houses if the water levels rise, Mr. Shapiro told me so.
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“JUST ONE SMALL PROBLEM…”
Hey now, auqa man is royality, and the kingdom of atlantis could do with a housing expansion!
Noted climate scientist Al Gore.
Anyone on the florida coast knows it’s not sea rise alone that will get you.
It’s hurricanes.
I’m not on the coast, but let me tell you, the existential dread the last few seasons was real (and proven right with Ian), much less this upcoming season.
Another underappreciated point: most people who live right on the coast now are snowbirds in giant mansions, who can very much afford to lose their vacation home to a hurricane. They don’t even live there most of the time.
There’s been talk about a category 6.
Every year hurricane season starts earlier, they’re bigger, and they go up the coast further.
To be fair, they always seem to hit certainl places in certain months. West coast seems to mostly be later season, around the “I” storms.
But yeah, not looking forward to this season.
The fact that the insurance industry is practically abandoning Florida is a real indicator, despite the noise around it being a hoax.
We’re just about at the “It exists but it’s too late to do anything about it” stage.
What’s darkly amusing is how climate change is still too “politically sensitive” to talk about, like it’s some big controversial moral argument. Even weather guys talking about hurricane season awkwardly dance around it.
I understand why, I have family that still thinks its all an anti christian hoax… but still.
I have a friend from high school who had a house collapse on her during Hurricane Ivan and she’s on disability for life now.
And that was before the ocean was anywhere near as hot as it is now.
Sea level rise of 5 meters isn’t happening in any of our lifetimes. Don’t get me wrong, climate change and it’s resulting sea level rise are very very real, but even the most dire forecasts don’t predict a 5 meter sea level rise in the next 100 years. Models of a high emissions scenario has the rise “only” going up 3.9 meters 126 years from now
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level
Sea level rise of 5 meters isn’t happening in any of our lifetimes.
Report: 500K South Florida Homes at Risk of Storm Surge
The newly released report highlights the Miami metro area’s mass exposure to coastal flooding risk from hurricanes.
…
Often the deadliest element of a hurricane, surge waters from strong storms can rise 15 feet or more above the ordinary sea level, enveloping streets and buildings in coastal areas.
The report found that roughly 7.7 million homes in hurricane-exposed regions in the U.S. are susceptible to storm surge flooding.
I mean, that’s interesting info, but none of it refutes what i said
storms can rise 15 feet or more above the ordinary sea level
Storm surge levels isn’t the same thing as sea level.
Technically correct, but ultimately irrelevant. Storm surge renders properties below the point of sea-rise height uninhabitable. The fact that its temporary doesn’t mitigate the long-term destructive impact it inflicts.
Not irrelevant, it very much depends on the frequency and severity. Katrina flooded NYC massively, but it’s still extremely inhabited.
Katrina flooded NYC massively
I’m sorry, what?
I’m sure that’s comforting to the economically underserved that have barriers to contingency plans.
Hurricanes and storms means that you don’t need to wait for the full amount of sea level rise. Insurance is already skyrocketing because of the damage.
Insurance? That has already left the state of Florida.
A permanent rise, yes, but storm surges and stuff will make Miami uninhabitable far sooner than that.
Miami elevation is 6 feet? Something like that?
True, good point, but the general idea still stands. It’s gonna be (I’m totally guessing here) like at least another 70 years before sea level rise + storm flooding events will make inland areas uninhabitable
It’ll be within the next ten years that it’ll get hit by a Katrina-like event.
The models the ICC accepted were all “in line with historical data”. So much so that the “Hot Model Problem” became a known thing, models predicting climate change that were too hot for the ICC to accept.
Our models are conservative, likely by a good margin.
If you read the link i posted you’ll see the numbers i quoted are already based on the worst case scenario of prediction ranges, rather than the scenario currently considered most likely. And your claim about a katrina level event happening there seems to be pulled out of nowhere, do you have a source citation for that prediction?
If we had a functioning government in the US, this could be less of a problem. I wonder how we get one of those?
Vote out Republicans at every level of government.
Checking the election results and they say “5-4 Republicans win”
They’re all Republicans, about half of them are fucking insane. The other half just wants to run a nice conservative government. They hate each other and will throw any number of us to the wolves in their spite for each other.
I mean Floridians could start mitigating the inevitable effects of climate change themselves. It’s a lot easier to get a functioning state government, they’d just have to vote for Democrats.
The word “just” there is pulling a lot of weight.
Vote for the radical leftists the Republicans have been screaming about.
When another milquetoast moderate wins anyway, consider alternatives.
They’re gonna have to build a wall to keep the water out!
And then they’re going to have to drive a Chevy there to check if it’s dry…
As long as they bring some whiskey and rye
Discussing imminent mortality is optional, though. Depends on the vibe at the time.
I wonder if the ocean will pay for this one.
Tell it to Earth.
That always goes well
*swell
I mean, there’s been some failures, but well-built levees have been super helpful for thousands of years…
You might want to build one to keep the Floridians in
Oh look another Democrat Hoax!
Get out of here with your Al Gore lies!Look at all that new beachfront property!
also /S
Some denier actually brought up Al Gore in another comment. Seriously.
I saw that…
