Because they would all go after Biden.
Last episode of
DragonWeekly Americano, we witnessed the once heroic group known as the Supreme Court Justice 9 reveal their evil plans meant to enslave the citizens. The author made the villains so strong, the emboldened villains themselves wrote themselves a weakness knowing that there is no opposition strong enough to wield the mighty power of “Absolute Immunity” against them. Is there anyway to stop the Supreme Court Justice 9, find out in this episode of Weekly Americano.-
Those aren’t things that would otherwise be crimes. He doesn’t have immunity from procedure, he has immunity for crimes. He kill the justices, or kidnap them and lock them up in some undisclosed location. He has immunity in those cases. But expanding the court would require passing a law. Passing a law is not an action that the President takes, regardless of any presidential immunity. As for felons not being able to become presidents, any law congress passed to say that would be unconstitutional, because the constitution lays out the only requirements to become a US president. The constitution also limits the ways in which the constitution could be changed, and none of that is within the powers of a president. He could kill Trump, but he can’t change the rules about who’s allowed to be president.
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He still believes that the system works. He thinks the checks and balances work. He believes that, regardless of the recent Supreme Court ruling, that he’s not immune, so he won’t commit crimes like that. The result might be that the final president of the Republic thought it was more important to follow tradition and live the values that he thought the president should hold, than to do what was necessary to prevent the Republic from becoming a dictatorship.
If he doesn’t follow procedure would that be a crime?
Exactly. So you’re saying presidents can’t do X… Meaning there’s a penalty for X? So if president did X, that would be a crime. But if crime was committed as an official act.
No. They’re saying there’s a procedure for enacting new laws, and creating them outside those procedures accomplishes nothing. It’s not a crime. It’s also not how laws are created.
Probably not.
Yeah, that tends to happen with empires.
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What’s stopping him is “civility politics,” even when he’s been handed a path to thoroughly purge corruption and fascism from the supreme court, he won’t.
The GOP has shown they do not care at all about civility, and will abuse this rule.
To not play by the same rules when people’s lives are at stake is a deep moral failure, and shows that politics are simply a game for them.
I’m not so sure it’s civility politics that is limiting him here. I doubt this nakedly corrupt and partisan court would actually side with his administration when it comes to agreeing that his acts are indeed official. Especially if said acts don’t fit with the Federalist Society’s ideology.
If he doesn’t get re-elected that’s a different story, and he is realistically too old to face major consequences for his actions… so it would be great if he would at least have special forces rough these guys up a little bit to make a point about the necessary limits on executive power.
I wish Dems had that dog in them to fight, even if this was possible. The fact they still go around calling modern day GOP their friends and colleagues says more than enough.
They’re all on the same corporate payrolls, dems are and have been nothing more than controlled opposition.
So, Fat Orange Clown, how is “hiding documents you shouldn’t have as a non-president” an official act? How is anything done as “not the president” an official act?
RIP
That’s not what they said iirc. Now everything has to be presented to determine if it was an official act, if so immunity, if not no immunity.
It’s a very half hearted way to look like they’re backing trump but actually throwing him to the wolves since it’s not an official act and everyone knows it. It would similarly reverse clintons impeachment since lying to Congress was as president and therefore an official act.
It would similarly reverse clintons impeachment since lying to Congress was as president and therefore an official act.
No, this decision wouldn’t affect that at all. This decision covers criminal prosecution, not impeachment. Now, if Clinton had been indicted, tried, and convicted of perjury for lying to Congress after Bush was elected in 2000, then it would be unwinding that conviction, if it was determined that it was an official act as president.
I don’t think that actually matters, if a president is immune from serious criminal prosecution the same reasoning would make them immune from civil.
I don’t understand what you’re saying here.
Impeachment isn’t a criminal process. It’s also not civil. Impeachment is it’s own thing, outside of the judicial system. A prosecutor can’t impanel a grand jury and have the grand jury impeach an elected or appointed official. If Clinton had been both impeached and removed from office, this decision would do nothing to affect that.
On the other hand, if he had left office, and then had been criminally charged for lying to COngress, while he was sitting as President, and was convicted, then this decision would be unwinding it.
Impeachment is by definition civil. If I can shoot you in the face and get immunity then I can certainly lie to Congress. They’re pretty literally saying it’s absolute immunity.
“High crimes and misdemeanors” the president is immune to them all now. Criminal, civil, administrative, doesn’t matter with absolute immunity comes absolute power.
It’s not a civil or criminal matter. Impeachment is inherently a political process. This ruling has near-zero bearing on it.
It’s civil the clause even specifically refers to civil officers, it’s a civil process like every other process don’t by the government. There is no such thing as a political process.
The worst part is that Biden and the Dems don’t have the balls to do anything like this or intentionally put this verdict to the test. Just clutch their pearls and not actually do anything.
Biden already said as much with his response to the ruling.
Paraphrasing: “We must respect the (self imposed) limits to the presidency and I will do so. We can’t exactly trust the next guy to do so and that’s dangerous.” (Proceeds to wag finger as if that will do fuck-all)
You know how Chamberlain ended up with a reputation for being the coward that allowed Hitler to become powerful on the world stage? Biden is gambling on this fucking election that it will prevent him from going down in history as today’s version of that.
Except it will be more deserved for Biden because Chamberlain knew the Allies didn’t have the capability to stop Hitler with force when Hitler was making his early moves and was quietly building up the UK’s military while appeasing Hitler.
Everything that is about to come is as much at Biden’s feet as it is at Trump’s and all his fascist friends’.
Well, if trump wins, Biden will still be president for a few months after, so there’s still hope
Nobody in this administration actually wanted to prosecute Trump. That’s why the Stormy Daniels case had to go through NY State Court rather than the federal system. Biden’s USAs sat on these cases for nearly four years, after he took office. And they slow rolled them all through the various federal districts during the primary, with the hope that he’d lose the primary and the problem would just go away.
Everyone in the White House responsible for prosecuting Trump must have breathed a big sigh of relief when that SC verdict came down, because it gave them the perfect excuse to drop all the charges.
Democrats are like ‘Good Cops’. They’re not the ones actively murdering and beating and doing all the bad shit. But they do just kinda stand around while it happens and don’t do much.
We need them, for now, to at least not make things worse, but what we really need is to fucking change things from the bottom up. Unfortunately, I’m afraid it is likely too late. Such change will take two or three decades, and that’s if, in this next election, enough people actually rally together to start doing something, and continue doing something for the next thirty years.
We need them, for now
Surrounded by tigers, but don’t worry I have this rock that I was told scares away all the tigers.
Nobody in this administration actually wanted to prosecute Trump
“Tonight on Hannity: Biden LITERALLY kicked down the door at the DOJ and held a gun to their heads FORCING them to attack poor poor sad innocent Donald Saint Trump for made up crimes!”
Reality doesn’t matter anymore
Neat. Then we all panic. Force the rule change back and Biden goes out a martyr hero instead of a lackluster shill who slowly shambled his way towards oppression for his constituents.
Gotta take the high road while the other side takes a road so low it undermines the foundations of everything we are!
Immunity does not equate to lack of opposition within government, which is what he is going to get if he plays by the rules. Now, if he goes in as commander in chief to depose them through a literal coup, he would be legally immune from the repercussions of abusing his powers whether it worked out or not, but the mistake here would be believing that the GQP care about legality when they only consider it a means to an end to corrupt so that the people that do care can’t use it against them.
Biden should order assassination of the MAGA justices
That wouldn’t be official.
Now if the orange hate-crime declares assassination of AOC, Biden, Hilary Clinton, the entire Obama family, Jon Stewart, and I dunno, Steve-O, that would be official.
Because the SC decides what is official.
Oh yeah, they also decided who won the election, btw. Do vote, it will be an excellent point added to documentaries made about the collapse of the US of how people voted against.
If the SCOTUS decides what’s official but they’ve already been assassinated, then just appoint new ones who will say it was official and reverse the decisions on presidential immunity and Roe.
Sure, totally. That gonna happen? Because with Biden in power, mostly there’s a lot of excuses about how they’ll totally do stuff next time.
While the hate-group that are out of power have somehow set it up so that they can have absolute authority on the next election that they decide the outcome of
Biden will only abuse his presidential powers in a Trump way for real important matters.
Such as bypassing congres to send bombs to israel for Genocide.
The president can’t bypass congress for elections, because congress/states have control. You can for the military, because it’s an executive department.
The president can’t do anything unless it’s Trump. Then he can do everything.
Biden can appoint more supreme court justices and play the same dirty game for America.
There 100% are legal loopholes to abuse if Biden wants to. But apparently he only wants to abuse those to support Genocide. After that he suddenly grows “morals”.
Congress, of course, is totally concerned about Gazans. that’s why they voted not to release the number of deaths! /s
That he’s an executive not legislative?
Well, yes he is. He is both legislative and executive. In the US system head of state and head of government are the same person. In Germany for example the head of state is the federal president Frank-Walter Steinmeier. He is part of the Legislative and ratifies laws. Then there is the more famous chancellor who is the head of government Olaf Scholz. He holds the executive power. Although Bidens power in legislation is limited he still has some.
He very specifically isn’t both…he can use Executive orders and Veto laws, but he President can’t make a law without Congress. Correction: SHOULDN’T … it’s a free-for-all with the new King-Maker ruling from SCOTUS.
Immunity from prosecution doesn’t mean he can pass laws.
Theoretically he could murder members of the other branches of government until the remaining ones did what he wanted, but it doesn’t let him pass new laws or unilaterally change the constitution.
If I had the Army he has, I could unilaterally change whatever I want…
The army wouldn’t go along with it. Even in countries with dictators, they need to purge the army before they try anything too radical. And, often, the generals retain a lot of power.
Dementia. But hopefully one of his handlers arranges for this.
Dems are controlled opposition. How many times do they have to betray you before you learn that.
Of course Biden shouldn’t do anything heinous, but he definitely should do something earthshaking against either Republican party or the Supreme Court just to make a point.
Thing is, this tool the SCOTUS has given the POTUS only works for fascists. Even if Biden did house arrests it would likely blow up in our face.
Perfect opportunity to do something, get impeached (including dems) and rally behind a new canditate.
What stopping them is that Democrats are too weak and timid to do anything.
don’t mix up weakness with decency though
Not mutually exclusive…
If you play by the rules but your opponent doesn’t, you will always lose.
yes, but only if the oponent doesn’t get penalized and gets away with it.
They are simply complicit.
The mask is off. We officially cannot trust our government anymore.
Never could
