• r3df0x ✡️✝☪️@7.62x54r.ru
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    12 hours ago

    Despite having agreement with rightoids, homeschooling should be illegal. If your kids have autism or some other social condition, it should be considered an extremely severe form of child abuse. I went to a special high school and there was an autistic kid there who was homeschooled for middle school to keep him away from it and it fucked him up. Even at our school he didn’t really have any friends and that was an accomplishment. In order to not fit in where I went, you had to seriously work at being a jackass. There was a kid with very severe autism and he fit in better then the home schooled kid who had potential to be “passing.”

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      I think homeschooling is an excuse to have your older children babysit the younger children all day long and that they get zero education, and I agree it probably should mostly be illegal. I will make exceptions for kids dealing with severe anxiety or something.

      • r3df0x ✡️✝☪️@7.62x54r.ru
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        Kids like that would be the most harmed I think. Kids need to learn to get over their anxiety issues. Public schools harm autistic kids by creating spaces where they never have to get outside of their comfort zone. You will fail in the “real world” if you can’t handle overcoming “anxiety.”

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    21 hours ago

    Fascists: do fascist things

    Liberals: correct their spelling, then allow them to continue because fascism doesn’t threaten capital

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      Homeschooling is technically the opposite of fascist approach. As in “state being in charge” vs “parents being in charge”.

      That said, some parents are just too dumb to allow them full control over their child’s education. Just in my case it was their “try harder” attitude about school, while something like homeschooling would work much better.

      Imagine an autistic adult who never dropped the imitation and missed on most good things in life, trying to impose the same onto their autistic child who at least understands that imitation takes too much energy and isn’t worth shit (and is seen right through by NT people anyway), thinking that their fake smiles, stupid loud nonsense talk and even fake hobbies (as in those they know nothing about, but talk a lot in public) don’t look that, and also being scared shitless of the very idea of going to a therapist (“I’m/you’re NORMAL”, this is common in ex-USSR though), and, finally, actively sabotaging any idea to isolate their stupidity and ignorance to them. That would be my dad.

      Other than personal examples, there are good and bad parents and there are good and bad schools and there are good and bad education systems.

      Parents generally don’t groom their children to become cannon fodder, some education systems do ; parents generally don’t want their children to be fooled by politicians, and education systems are directly influenced by those politicians ; parents generally care for their own children to have some successes, while for Prussian-style school systems it’s normal that some are just discarded, if the majority becomes good drones.

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    Libertarians believe that they should have the benefits of society, without any of the responsibilities that come with it.

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    Context?

    Or is this a reply to the person saying homeschooling should be illegal?

    Why is microblogging UX so strange?

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      Because you can quote someone without actually speaking to them, and the UI has to show that as well as replies to that exchange.

      It’s not perfect but it makes sense in context. Also, they all have timestamps so that should make the progression obvious.

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      Someone tweeted that homeschooling should largely be illegal.

      Someone else quoted the tweet them and said people like them should be hung. Quoting a tweet is like replying while also saying, “HEY, EVERYBODY, LOOK AT THIS!”

      Then a third person corrected the second person’s grammar.

      It could be assumed that the second person was homeschooled, but there’s no evidence within the picture to support that.

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    Teach them that all you want but they won’t be smart enough to live by themselves. Imagine wanting your kid to be as dumb as possible.

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    I’ve known many people who’ve participated in home schooling as teachers or students. A wide variety of “teaching” goes on, some of is just a more personal relationship with your child’s formal education, on the other extreme, you have people like OP referenced… and everything in between.

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    I work adjacent to education, and as such see a lot of high school transcripts come across my desk. The bad news is that there are absolutely tons of bad actors who use homeschooling as a way to indoctrinate kids to their insane, unsubstantiated worldview.

    The worst news is that there’s a ton of private schools and even some public schools doing it too. Schools across the U.S. are teaching creationism as fact, climate change as theory, and some of them even have the gall to consider their “Biblical Science” classes as honors level. If your only argument against homeschooling is indoctrination, it’s not a very good one. In states like Utah and Oklahoma, you’d almost have to homeschool your kid just to make sure they’re receiving a real education.

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    I think they got a point though. I think homeschooling should be illegal and I’m hung. 🪘🪘🥁 😏

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    Maybe not outright illegal, but I think it should be heavily regulated. I’ve heard way too many stories of kids being raised in isolation and barely being taught even basic math under the guise of homeschooling.

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      barely being taught even basic math under the guise of homeschooling.

      yah that was me.

      There was no actual “schooling” it was just a cover-story so people didn’t pry and learn that my parents were too crazy/drunk/high/delusional to properly raise children. The first couple decades of my life I basically just wandered in the desert alone around my parent’s “religious compound” a couple hours from the nearest town and tried to get my hands on any actual scientific or rational reading material that extended family members managed to smuggle in.

      It had disastrous impact on my adult life. I did go to school later and excelled and soared through AP college classes… but with my life so handicapped from the start, I was unable to continue higher education due to poverty, unable to land a stable career, and worst of all, severe depression and anxiety from the CPTSD of basically spending 20 years of my most important developmental years isolated with two toxic, hateful, abusive parents and literally NOBODY else. I became non-verbal for years, people thought I was autistic. I have been in and out of therapy, on and off meds, and have had long, extended struggles with substance abuse, depression so bad I can’t move some days, and thoughts of self-harm.

      My parents were absolutely convinced that biblical prophecy was real and was about to be fulfilled, they saw themselves as actual prophets or chosen ones that would play a part in the coming apocalypse, and for years of my life I was also convinced that I was part of some greater destiny.

      Fast forward through my adult life, and I’m clearing out my parent’s belongings after they drank themselves to death, wondering what the fuck happened and what my real future is going to look like. Do you think AI is going to replace grocery baggers? Because I fully see myself at 80 bagging groceries.

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      Facebook groups for homschooling moms are fucking wild. To be fair you never know who’s trolling there, because if you want to fool someone, you fool someone that is very easy to fool.

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      Homeschooling is allowed in my country, but they have to take exams in front of a jury to prove they have been properly schooled.

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        I think you mean invidulator, everyone knows what you mean just trying to be helpful. That’s an officially appointed watcher at exams, a jury is a team of people who give a verdict in a legal case.

        And yeah that’s the best way for sure, some places have mandatory participation in community events too which i think is good

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          No, you seem to be describing someone who supervises an exam. What I mean is a committee/inspection that decides if the homeschooling meets the objectives set by the governments and that the student has a sufficient understanding of the teachings.

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      My brother and sisiter-in-law briefly did “homeschooling” with their kids. I put the word in scare quotes because it wasn’t what people normally think of when they consider homeschooling. It was actually a private school which the kids went to four days a week and then one day a week the parents guided the kids at home through a lesson plan prepared by the school. The only point of this was that it allowed the school to hire non-accredited and non-union teachers since it was ostensibly homeschooling and not a normal school.

      At least it saved the parents money, right? Ha ha nope! Still expensive as shit - like $30K per year per kid.

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        Ha ha nope! Still expensive as shit - like $30K per year per kid.

        Right, universal education is not a thing in USSA American Empire.

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      There’s a family I saw on Facebook who had their ten kids apprehended and adopted out for beating them with a switch and not actually educating them in home school. Thankfully the kids are doing well.