The president of the right-wing group spearheading Project 2025 raised the specter of violence Tuesday against those who refuse to capitulate to what he characterized as “the second American Revolution” ushered in by presumptive GOP nominee and would-be authoritarian Donald Trump.

Kevin Roberts, head of the Heritage Foundation, said in an appearance on “Real America’s Voice” that the coming “revolution” will “remain bloodless if the left allows it to be”—a thinly veiled threat against those who resist the far-right’s efforts to seize power.

Trump said in April that whether there is violence surrounding the 2024 presidential election “depends” on the “fairness” of the contest and the outcome.

Watch Roberts’ remarks:

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1808507354310209711

“We are going to win. We’re in the process of taking this country back,” declared Roberts, who has said Project 2025 is “institutionalizing Trumpism” in preparation for a possible victory in November.

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      Or those who simply enjoy contemplating the violence. Like, dang it, the Left capitulated, but are you sure we can’t kill just a few of them for uh… “demonstration” purposes?

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    And your God emperor is signalling bloodshed if we let you do it.

    You don’t negotiate or compromise with Nazis like the Project 2025 people.

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      Basically they’re saying, “Shut up and take it or we’ll kill you.” That is not a political platform. It’s extra-Overton. It’s domestic enemy-making.

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    Scheppele’s assessment echoed that of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, which warned in an analysis published late last year that “the entire project is devoted to aggrandizing executive power by centralizing authority in the presidency, and a key aspect of democratic backsliding is viewing opposition elements as attempting to destroy the ‘real’ community, an essential aspect to quashing dissent.”

    “Project 2025 paints progressives and liberals as outside acceptable politics, and not just ideological opponents, but inherently anti-American and ‘replacing American values,’” the analysis said. “Targeting vulnerable communities is a core tenet of Project 2025. Project 2025 is very clearly on a path to Christian nationalism as well as authoritarianism.”

    For the love of everything we care for. Please vote this November.

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      But I’m just so undecided. I mean, yeah, that sounds bad, really bad, but Biden is old and had one bad performance. Forget all the other recent events where he did well, I’m only able to focus on that one bad one. /s

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        We will let the record show how clever you were compared to the undecided voters as you all go in the same burning pit.

        Since you correctly dont care who the democrat candidate is, could we perhaps pic a candidate that will survive the term? Orb are you going to change the centrists minds by being very smug on the internet? We all know how effective that is.

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          Well, much as I am reluctant to put on the jackboots, I suppose I’ll have to do so when your prediction comes true. No hard feelings when we get to your place in line?

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          Orb are you going to

          Subliminal message received. Marianne has my vote.

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      It’s far too late to vote our way out of this, Trump will be president next year because the Democrats would rather lose an election than a fundraising opportunity.

      Start preparing for the inevitable. If you and your friend circle aren’t ready to engage in mass civil unrest like the French do whenever their government acts up then it’s time to get that way. Form an affinity group, practice acting in concert while in black bloc, study police tactics, surveil the local fascist agitators, join a worker’s union, identify opportunities to disrupt business-as-usual, and most importantly, do not organize online.

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        People like you are the problem. You’re just spewing nonsense. This is ABSOLUTELY the time to vote.

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          I didn’t say not to vote, just that it’s too late to fix this with electoralism. If you feel compelled to do so then please do, we have to embrace a diversity of tactics if we’re to have any impact on the national stage.

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        The Heritage Foundation existed for a very long time, and many far-right evangelicals wanted to take over the US. They played a long game. They even sunk 1 billion dollars into the whole project, and needed to learn from some other countries like Hungary and Russia. At least the HF has a lot of ties to the Orbán regime of Hungary, our only luck is it’s on slow burn thanks to the EU.

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    “If you don’t fight back, we’ll let you live” For now. Make no mistake about scorpions though.

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    What’s going to be infuriating is when the killing starts, so many people will act like this was unavoidable.

    Remember being gaslit in 2016?

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      It was unavoidable, because nobody in a position to do anything about it was willing to avoid it.

      We were set on this path in 2015 when the court ruled that the DNC is entirely within its rights to rig the primary. They chose not to run the most popular politician in the country because it was “Her Turn”, and in so doing gave the Presidency to Trump.

      Everything that has occurred since then could never have happened any other way. The backlash to Trump that put Biden in office despite pulling another fuckery on Bernie, and now the red wave of greivance against a “stolen election” that will give us Trump again.

      What’s infuriating is that, for the first time in a decade, I can’t predict the political future anymore. I’m not even willing to bet we’ll have elections in 2028, much less who the winners will be.

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        Biden was never the candidate who was going to make bold moves and enact the kind of change required to start to fix systemic problems . On his boldest day he could never have conceived anything like the New Deal and if he did it would be too terrified of rocking the boat to move on it. Biden was always just the safest way to beat Trump. And old white guy. The army of pointless op Ed writers wouldn’t have any oxygen to write breathless speculative articles about whether the country is ready for a woman/black/___ president. Not breaking any barriers. Safe. That’s it. He has done a lot of good work, but he is at his best uninspiring.

        Bernie was never going to win. Whatever the hypothetical polls show, whatever fuckery the DNC did, he was never going to win. The same country that elected Trump could never elect Bernie, it’s simply not possible. Bernie actually cares about making people’s lives better - he’s fought for it his whole life. He was with the civil rights movement. He was fighting along side gay rights activists way before it became mainstream. The American electorate as a whole doesn’t deserve him.

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    By all means, let’s just sit around and wait?

    I really hope an attempt to overthrow our government is met with the terrifying force of our military. This shits been outta hand for too long.

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      I think it’s somewhat arrogant to assume that the state violence apparatus is wholly on our side on this one.

      1. What kinds of people do you think staff the military and police, LBGT activists and climate protesters?
      2. For those not on the MAGA train but are perhaps “uncommitted”, being ordered to fire on Americans may be a bridge too far.

      The military will likely fracture like everything else in such a scenario. I imagine desertion, theft of equipment, and sabotage would all be huge problems until things more neatly sort themselves into “us” and “them.”

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        Our country would be completely and permanently overthrown on the international stage the moment that happens. China and Russia will own the world, and America will be left in ruins. A civil war will make us incredibly weak, and the rest of the world probably isn’t going to fight for us when that happens.

        There’s a chance we’ll be literally overthrown too, especially if we leave (or are expelled from) NATO.

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        The military leadership is deeply neoliberal. They are definitely not leftist, but aren’t fans of Trump and MAGA either. However, expect Trump to start replacing them as soon as he takes office.

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      Yeah, this isn’t some fringe extremists they can pretend are outside the movement. The Heritage Foundation IS the movement. They’re “respectable” conservatives, transformed by Trumpism into full blown terrorists.

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      You know he’s too scared to do that. Bark bark bark. Unfortunately his multi hundred page manifesto is the guidebook for people who could be in power.

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      Americans own guns but doesn’t do anything with them. Or soo it looks like from over the pond.

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          And our suicide and domestic violence rates. Plus all the gang violence. The nerve of a European to say we don’t use our guns.

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      I really hope we call it what it is this time around.

      We got some pretty grave consequences on the books for treason, and I think they might be just about the only thing that can start to put this fire out.

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        It won’t happen. Biden has already said he won’t do anything. It’s ridiculous. Hopefully people like Sanders will get the ball rolling. At least he’s making noise.

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          It looks and feels like everyone is waiting out what happens in November and with it what happens in January… (There might not even be an inauguration in January, Trump might begin his day 1 dictatorship right after he claims winning the elections, and has his goons to support him)

          Everybody that matters now is frozen from acting untill past the election, while imo now should be the time to intervene and not let it roll onwards, remove one of the chess pieces now and the momentum might not be unstoppable.

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    As a trans person I am looking forward to being killed by a red white and blue fascist screaming about freedom and personal liberty.