• whoreticulture@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Young millennial here … did this guy forget about League of Legends? We definitely played competitive online games, in fact, we were the very worst and most toxic 😌🏆

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      Are you confusing something? OP is claiming OLD millennials (born in the early 80’s, basically) prefer single player games.

      You’re saying you’re a younger millennial that played LoL.

      Well I have a few things to say to you. Older millennials were already adults before LoL existed. Like 25+ already.

      LoL was just an offshoot of player created games made in a much older game called Warcraft 3.

      Back in the WC3 days, some strategy pvp games existed and were popular, but they weren’t very similar to how it is now. Particularly that there would only be like 3 other players and that there was no mics.

      When I say popular, they were still far from the norm. The average kid/teen gamer didn’t play them. Hell, in 1997 only 18% of US hoyseholds even had the internet.

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        2 months ago

        They are a younger millenial, and talking about how not playing online games is a signifier of that. Not sure how you get this so wrong you think you can correct me about what it straight up says.

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          Why not a mobile game?

          “It looks like youre trying to hit the ball with your paddle. Your 3 free hits have already been used. Please wait an hour for the cool down period before you can hit more balls. Watch an ad to shorten the cooldown by half, or skip it for only 20 gems!”

          Oh, that’s why…

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    Im a millenial that wants to team up with friends to beat on the computer cause the computer hurt us all at one point.

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      There is nothing like the old warcraft 3 battle.net scene.

      Meeting a bunch of strangers in a random game and then playing all night with them.

      Just good old fashioned PvE fun

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      I’m an elder millennial that had the rad but - overall - kinda bummer experience, where I got to enjoy this kinda vibe just a few times. Looking back it feels almost like a fever dream - it was so cool, but so fleeting.

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    2 months ago

    And it needs to be executed flawlessly. Lost a unit? Tap dat undo fast!

    [Dry haves in OCD]

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    I like PvP games when they are among smaller circles. It’s easy to get good when the people you’re playing against all live locally.

    But then you get into something like Destiny 2, and some korean kid who gets paid to main the game absolutely obliterates you the moment you spawn.

    World-wide matchmaking is a mistake. If PvP were locally-matched, I think plenty of people would have a good time.

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      I’d advocate for player hosted / dedicated servers over “Locals Only”. When you have community tools to regulate toxicity, you end up with a much better community. See also the TFC, TF2, Soldier of Fortune, Jedi Knight, Quake 3, CoD 4, etc… servers I played and admin’ed on growing up.

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        I actually ran CS 1.6 servers on a spare desktop at home and met some close friends because they were on the same local node, their ping was constantly <80ms and so they chose my server over and over again. When I was playing and told them where I lived, they lost it and said they lived in the same area. We kept giving a little bit more information to each other, making sure it wasn’t just someone fishing for some kids address, and found out we lived in the same neighborhood. Met probably 6 guys this way that I’m still friends with. :)

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      Having a larger worldwide population to match with means matchmaking can do a better job of trying to find someone closer to your level. Playing any game with a high skill ceiling with IRL friends is what often just results in a skill gap too wide for either of us to have fun, and then who else can I even go play with?

      And that’s assuming anyone you know IRL even wants to play the niche games you love best.

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    As an elder Millennial, 95%+ of the games we grew up with were not online against strangers…

    I guess I was in college when Halo and Counterstrike became things, but growing up I was playing fucking DOS games my cousin handed me on floppy disks, and then later games like King’s Quest and Myst

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      Probably bias from irl experience. Maybe their work friends don’t play video games, so they assume that most people who play online are gen z.

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        I’m a GenX/Millenial and I love my single player games. Just started showing my 6 year old OG Super Mario Bros 1-3.

  • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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    I don’t care for pvp versus total strangers. Local pvp or co-op is where it’s at. Same with LAN parties. My brother used to bring his PS3 over to my apartment in college. He’d hook up to the TV, I’d grab a PC monitor and headphones, and my roommate would bring his own TV to the living room and we’d play Borderlands 2 together. We used to also play a lot of Melee in those days. I miss that a lot.

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      Gaming should be couch co-op as a priority.

      Its like sports - they just aren’t right if you’re not being loud, eating junk food, getting a bit drunk if that’s your thing, laughing and screaming in equal measure.

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        Imagine getting down voted because someone didn’t like your opinion. (Which I agree with)

        There’s some tryhards down voting every comment here in support probably because they don’t have any friends and play sweaty.

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          Micro machines was beautiful. Never been able to find anything that quite matched it.

          Mashed on original Xbox got close, but never quite scratched the itch. You’re also the first person I know who had the megadrive rather than the Saturn.

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      If this post is the worst take you’ve ever seen, I can only assume that this is your first day on the internet. Welcome! I hope you find something that you like. And try to be nice to people.

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    Meanwhile, I love PvP because people can learn and get better so there is always a challenge even after the single player game becomes boring because you know every single trick, trap, move and attack pattern.

    If the Soulsborne games didn’t have PvP, I probably would not have been as big of a fan of them as I currently am. Sekiro is one of my least favorite of them because it has no multiplayer at all and has just 1 build so there’s not really a point to playing through it more than once to experience everything it has.

    But I can understand how people who aren’t that good at games would prefer the computer as their opponent.

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          Well cuz playing with others isn’t why i play games! I get enough of pitting myself against other humans in my daily life n stuff. When i play games it’s me time, and for me pvp is an intrusion on that. I get why people like that intensity and challenge, but adding other peeps whose specific goal is the opposite of mine just doesn’t do it for me, doesn’t click the “play more” button like it does for some folk.

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    For me, playing against the computer inevitably results in me finding a repeatable way to beat it. If there is a story and varied environments, that is acceptable. However, for a real challenge, I’ll always go for human opponents.

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      Ultimately, you know you can’t be one of the best players of the game unless you’re around 18 and play the same game 50 hours a week, and you also aren’t paired up with completely random players, so you can’t really even get real feedback on how much better or worse you are than the average player, since games group you in with players similar to you (but will sometimes change that if it wants to slip you that dopamine to keep playing and hand you an easy win).

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    I’m an older millennial and don’t want to play online. I thought younger millennials liked playing online.

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          I tried playing PVP games back when they started getting really popular. After talking to the fifth 10 year old who banged my mom I stopped playing video games for more than a decade.

          I had no idea that my mom was such a whore.

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        But that was then, when there was time to get good. Millenials now don’t have the time for that, and going online means getting ass-kicked.

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    Am a young millenial but me not playing online games has nothing to do with that. I am just antisocial.

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      Asocial and antisocial are really quite different, though we (societally) confuse the two words - even a quick Google gives pretty mixed answers. If you aren’t playing games for the express purpose of ruining the fun of others, you sound more asocial than antisocial to me. Just throwing that out there in case it happens to be useful.

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        You’re right about the definition of asocial, but in every dictionary I’ve found, antisocial actually means both. Antisocial behaviour is generally more about harming others, while describing oneself as antisocial is generally just avoiding others.

        I’m curious if you’re from the UK because when I was there, I noticed a lot more people use antisocial in the context of harming others or society, while in north America we use it more in the avoiding others context.

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          Ah, fair, and nope I’m US based but I basically have what I’ve concluded must be an abnormal desire for accuracy and specificity with language. I just prefer and appreciate nuanced, specific meanings. But I’m also well aware that vocabulary and grammatical rules are only ever just guidelines - language is a living thing defined by the people that use it, by the way that they all choose to use it - it’s all essentially just this massive consensus with a rich and detailed topology, and I love that part too. So I’m not even very consistent when it comes down to it, lol.